Las Vegas Shooting

[seafoid]

American society is messed up. Guns are a symptom. Trump is another.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2017/09/22/is-trump-mentally-ill-or-is-america-psychiatrists-weigh-in/

[Denn Forever]

Was there some legislation  at one time banning these types of rilfes but it ran out in 1994 but it's renewal has consistly been blocked?

[Puckoon]

This guy owns a house 1.5 miles from me, and police and FBI are currently outside and waiting to gain entry. I imagine and hope it is empty. Neighbours are talking to the police and giving additional background on Stephen Paddock.

For anyone who still doesn't understand how fucked up the gun thing is over here - the majority of American commentary on social media this morning is surrounding how he got the guns INTO THE HOTEL. Not how he got the guns.

The hotel, the government are complicit, but don't worry about the guns themselves. Guns don't kill people.

[J70]

Was there some legislation  at one time banning these types of rilfes but it ran out in 1994 but it's renewal has consistly been blocked?

Think it was passed around then, but expired about ten years later under Bush. The GOP congress refused to renew it and let it die.

The Dems tried to pass a similar one after Sandy Hook, except with no expiration date, but it didn't pass in the Senate. Would never have been even brought up for a vote in the House anyway.

[J70]

This guy owns a house 1.5 miles from me, and police and FBI are currently outside and waiting to gain entry. I imagine and hope it is empty. Neighbours are talking to the police and giving additional background on Stephen Paddock.

For anyone who still doesn't understand how fucked up the gun thing is over here - the majority of American commentary on social media this morning is surrounding how he got the guns INTO THE HOTEL. Not how he got the guns.

The hotel, the government are complicit, but don't worry about the guns themselves. Guns don't kill people.

And the growing use of vehicles as weapons has only added to their argument.

If he couldn't have got his hands on the guns, he could simply have rented a truck from U-Haul.

The debate is over, at least with respect to the US.

And apparently the Great Orange Toupee wants to increase US gun exports.

[whitey]

If anyone thinks that this shooting will lead to any reforms.....think again.

If anything, the events in Catalonia over the weekend will lead to a hardening of opinions as they pertain to the second ammemdment.

Personally, if I ever had the need to take up arms against the government in the name of opposing tyrany, I would probably just move to another country

[seafoid]

The Republicans built a coalition with the religious right in the 80's that focused on guns, God and gays (social issues). Fox and other media have been feeding people bullshit since around 1980 . The NRA is the second most powerful lobby after the healthcare parasites. Most Republicans in DC have several NRA people behind them. It is like Tammany Hall 2.0.



   
   https://www.ft.com/content/7345d406-a745-11e7-ab55-27219df83c97

   According to the Gun Violence Archive, a group that monitors gun violence in the US, there have been 274 mass shootings — defined as those in which at least four people were killed or injured — this year. More than 11,000 people have been slain by guns in 2017, while just under 3,000 children have been injured or killed.

[whitey]

The Republicans built a coalition with the religious right in the 80's that focused on guns, God and gays (social issues). Fox and other media have been feeding people bullshit since around 1980 . The NRA is the second most powerful lobby after the healthcare parasites. Most Republicans in DC have several NRA people behind them. It is like Tammany Hall 2.0.



   
   https://www.ft.com/content/7345d406-a745-11e7-ab55-27219df83c97

   According to the Gun Violence Archive, a group that monitors gun violence in the US, there have been 274 mass shootings — defined as those in which at least four people were killed or injured — this year. More than 11,000 people have been slain by guns in 2017, while just under 3,000 children have been injured or killed.

Most people dont care because proportionately people of color are much more likely to die a violent death than white people.

In MA, where I live, the homicide rate (firearm related) for a white male is 2.7 per 100K. (Not dissimilar to Dublins overall murder rate actually). In MO the firearm related homicide rate for an African American is 46.1 per 100K.

[JimStynes]

If only some people in the crowd were allowed to bring their guns with them then this wouldn't have happened 

What a crazy place America is!

[FL/MAYO]

From speaking to one of the many gun owners I work with you can still buy an automatic weapon legally in the U.S  if you go through an extensive background check and pay $20000 for each weapon. He also said it's pretty easy to turn a semi automatic into an automatic weapon. As someone said earlier if nothing changed after Sandy Hook it'll never change.

[Eamonnca1]

Gun stocks up after Las Vegas shooting

"Shares of Sturm Ruger (RGR) were up 4%, while American Outdoor Brands (AOBC), the company formerly known as Smith & Wesson, gained more than 3%. A company named Olin (OLN), which owns the Winchester brand of ammunition, rose 6% to an all-time high. The stocks have tended to rally in the immediate aftermath of mass killings, which sadly have become more routine."

[Wildweasel74]

Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

[thejuice]

ISIS are claiming this one but no links have yet been found between the attacker and the group.

[whitey]

Says more about the mentality of the average american; all to gung ho and no normal person can think owing a semi automatic gun can be deemed as required for personal protection or hunting!! If u look at most conflicts past 50yrs America been stuck in them; its their opportunity to sell guns ; missles; planes;  all big businness in the states

Stop taling $hite....you know nothing about the "average" American

In the Northeast 3/4 of households dont even own a fvcking gun

https://www.thoughtco.com/gun-owners-percentage-of-state-populations-3325153

[Dougal Maguire]

ISIS are claiming this one but no links have yet been found between the attacker and the group.

If they can't prove whether or not there was an ISIS link, where does the shooter stand as regards the 72 virgins policy? If he's eligible even for half that amount he could potentially be bigger than Hugh Hefner up there.