UK General Election 2017

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sid waddell

Quote from: armaghniac on June 01, 2017, 03:42:18 PM
If you are not a socialist when you are 20, then you have no heart.
If you are still a socialist when you are 40, then you have no brain.
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sid waddell

Quote from: ashman on June 01, 2017, 09:28:58 PM

A mortgage makes one less socialist in worldview .
Expect a lot more socialists, so, given that mortgages are getting further and further out of the reach of so many ordinary people.

Owen Brannigan

Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

OgraAnDun

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

I'm in agreement. A hard border (or the border being moved to Stranraer/Heathrow) is probably a good thing for nationalism.

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

Is May in favour of a hard Brexit?
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Owen Brannigan

Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

Is May in favour of a hard Brexit?

She is the one who started, 'no deal is better than a poor deal', no remaining in the Single Market and no payments to EU or current or future liabilities.

seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on June 02, 2017, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

Is May in favour of a hard Brexit?
I think she is heading for a dog's breakfast

She keeps on saying that no deal is better than a bad deal
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU


seafoid

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

armaghniac

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

However, given SFs inability to advance a concrete plan for a UI to take advantage of it and given the actual practical aggravation which a hard Brexit might cause to their voters, north and south, they cannot quite advocate a hard Brexit.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on June 02, 2017, 10:24:56 AM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.

However, given SFs inability to advance a concrete plan for a UI to take advantage of it and given the actual practical aggravation which a hard Brexit might cause to their voters, north and south, they cannot quite advocate a hard Brexit.
If the Tories lose there won't be a hard Brexit.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Rossfan

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on June 02, 2017, 09:24:43 AM
Will SF repay Jeremy Corbyn for his hospitality in Westminster and support when every other party shunned and expelled them by taking their seats in a hung parliament to put him into No.10? 

With a potential and not unrealistic 6/7 MPs, SF could either form the timing point for a introduction of a Corbyn government by voting with him or allow the return of May by their absence.  Which would be the best scenario for them?  Probably favour return of May to ensure a hard Brexit and the re-establishment of the border to create the focus for continuous political agitation.
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Keyser soze

Did anyone see the debate amongst the South Belfast candidates on 'The View' last night?

I thought it was completely dominated by O Muilleoir who completely owned Pengelly when she started to try to corner him re the Manchester bombing, asking him to apologise for the IRA Manchester bomb....to which he replied it was a bit rich her asking that when her father had been importing weapons to NI for loyalists....OUCH.

Minder

Quote from: Keyser soze on June 02, 2017, 11:01:27 AM
Did anyone see the debate amongst the South Belfast candidates on 'The View' last night?

I thought it was completely dominated by O Muilleoir who completely owned Pengelly when she started to try to corner him re the Manchester bombing, asking him to apologise for the IRA Manchester bomb....to which he replied it was a bit rich her asking that when her father had been importing weapons to NI for loyalists....OUCH.

And how does any of that help or pass as politics ? It's like groundhog day
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

Kilkevan

Quote from: Minder on June 02, 2017, 11:09:21 AM
Quote from: Keyser soze on June 02, 2017, 11:01:27 AM
Did anyone see the debate amongst the South Belfast candidates on 'The View' last night?

I thought it was completely dominated by O Muilleoir who completely owned Pengelly when she started to try to corner him re the Manchester bombing, asking him to apologise for the IRA Manchester bomb....to which he replied it was a bit rich her asking that when her father had been importing weapons to NI for loyalists....OUCH.

And how does any of that help or pass as politics ? It's like groundhog day

Ask Pengelly...