UK General Election 2017

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johnneycool

Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 12:52:14 PM
May has had to do a U-turn on unpopular social care policy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40001221

I don't get this strong and stable leadership shíte that the Torys are peddling as May has shown anything but with her cabinet selections and changes in policy...
Labour should be honing in on this.

Owen Brannigan

#196
Quote from: AQMP on May 22, 2017, 12:52:14 PM
May has had to do a U-turn on unpopular social care policy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-40001221

It is not a bad policy but it was badly presented and led to a foothold for a labour party that wants to increase inheritance tax when this policy would have left at least £100K for an inheritance after a person pays for old age care after having paid from house and other financial assets.  At the minute they take everything to pay for social care and leave just £23K.

The u-turn will only help the very well off who don't want to pay for their care and have much greater assets so a cap on the amount to pay will ensure that they have much more to leave to their heirs.

magpie seanie

Great to see all the know alls who criticise Corbyn yet seem willing somehow to accept the draconian Tories are possibly in for a shock. Labour's manifesto was a perfectly reasonable and if anything, moderate approach for a Labour party. Corbin has been attacked by the Tories, most of the media and the red Tories in his own party but he's still standing and closing the gap. He may not win but he's at worst building the foundations for a proper Labour party and not a different coloured Tory party that Blair made them.

Will be an interesting last few weeks. The Tory campaign has been a shambles and their "dementia tax" is doing them a lot of harm. The length of the campaign has given people time to think and thankfully, as seafoid put it earlier, some of them are beginning to "join the dots". Corbin has.....MOMENTUM.

maddog

Quote from: magpie seanie on May 22, 2017, 03:34:31 PM
Great to see all the know alls who criticise Corbyn yet seem willing somehow to accept the draconian Tories are possibly in for a shock. Labour's manifesto was a perfectly reasonable and if anything, moderate approach for a Labour party. Corbin has been attacked by the Tories, most of the media and the red Tories in his own party but he's still standing and closing the gap. He may not win but he's at worst building the foundations for a proper Labour party and not a different coloured Tory party that Blair made them.

Will be an interesting last few weeks. The Tory campaign has been a shambles and their "dementia tax" is doing them a lot of harm. The length of the campaign has given people time to think and thankfully, as seafoid put it earlier, some of them are beginning to "join the dots". Corbin has.....MOMENTUM.

Hope you are right Seanie. This country wants to wake up.



Carmen Stateside

Good to see the media actually call her out today on the U turn.

screenexile

It's great to see May fumbling around. The complacency shown by her and the Tories since the election was called has been fantastic.

Labour's manifesto has destroyed the Tories and the landslide they thought they had has seemed to disappear. The Tories have had 7 years at it and the NHS has been run into the ground, immigration has not been controlled as promised, Brexit, higher tuition fees and a spiralling deficit have shown the Tory's have fucked it up and somebody else needs to take over.

I don't think they will do enough to overturn the Tories but it's great to see the gap narrowing and Corbyn coming out fighting for a change!

Milltown Row2

Did the Tories believe that they have the ability to do what they want and so put in all these acts, and feel that no one would pull them up on it?

Political suicide by May, unfortunately not enough to see her get bate!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

May is out of her depth. I think the Tory party has been drugged. The DUP also took the tabs.
Corbyn has a much better manifesto.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

yellowcard

May is doing her best to try and lose this election. Seeing her performance on TV with Neill earlier, it's no surprise that she has been kept hidden away. Forced into another U turn on the dementia, it lends yet more credence to the opinion that she is simply making it up as she goes along.

screenexile

Quote from: yellowcard on May 22, 2017, 11:02:30 PM
May is doing her best to try and lose this election. Seeing her performance on TV with Neill earlier, it's no surprise that she has been kept hidden away. Forced into another U turn on the dementia, it lends yet more credence to the opinion that she is simply making it up as she goes along.

Neill wiped the floor with her that was f**king brilliant. Another two weeks of this as long as Corbyn doesn't do anything stupid and the gap will become worrisome!!

Owen Brannigan

#205
Andrew Neil is probably the best interviewer on TV or Radio and this is no surprise if you watch the Sunday Politics or Daily Politics.  He regularly spears politicians with such accuracy and tenacity that it is no wonder that the main parties tend to put up willing victims for him instead of the leadership.

May is a poor media performer and cannot handle the cut and thrust of debate as seen by PMQs each week, she had made Corbyn look good on a regular basis.  She is programmed by media training - keep repeating your slogan, answer every question with your prepared statement on the topic, try not to provide any hostage to fortune.

Actually, for her, she did reasonably well with Neil.  She managed to hold her ground, stick to her own script and not make any gaffes.  From a public perspective, her supporters will be happy enough, her enemies will be happy that she couldn't answer Neil and the undecideds will probably wait until they see Corbyn.

Just wait until Neil gets to Corbyn.  As someone twitted, 'good to hear cheers for Neil's interview of May, then there can be no complaints when he interviews Corbyn'. 

Next interview will be Nuttall - expect him to be destroyed and turned inside out.  Unlike previous occasions when he has been under media pressure, he won't be able to run away and lock himself in a room.

Only Mark Carruthers is even close to Neil if not following his technique on NI media.

BTW May's most trusted are equally as bad on media interviews and her problems with the social care policy are down to poor presentation by Damian Green, her minister for this area and close friend.  A complete wet blanket and poor media performer.

johnneycool

Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 23, 2017, 08:25:40 AM
Andrew Neil is probably the best interviewer on TV or Radio and this is no surprise if you watch the Sunday Politics or Daily Politics.  He regularly spears politicians with such accuracy and tenacity that it is no wonder that the main parties tend to put up willing victims for him instead of the leadership.

May is a poor media performer and cannot handle the cut and thrust of debate as seen by PMQs each week, she had made Corbyn look good on a regular basis.  She is programmed by media training - keep repeating your slogan, answer every question with your prepared statement on the topic, try not to provide any hostage to fortune.

Actually, for her, she did reasonably well with Neil.  She managed to hold her ground, stick to her own script and not make any gaffes.  From a public perspective, her supporters will be happy enough, her enemies will be happy that she couldn't answer Neil and the undecideds will probably wait until they see Corbyn.

Just wait until Neil gets to Corbyn.  As someone twitted, 'good to hear cheers for Neil's interview of May, then there can be no complaints when he interviews Corbyn'. 

Next interview will be Nuttall - expect him to be destroyed and turned inside out.  Unlike previous occasions when he has been under media pressure, he won't be able to run away and lock himself in a room.

Only Mark Carruthers is even close to Neil if not following his technique on NI media.

BTW May's most trusted are equally as bad on media interviews and her problems with the social care policy are down to poor presentation by Damian Green, her minister for this area and close friend.  A complete wet blanket and poor media performer.

That type of cabinet selection in my mind shows how weak May is as a leader. The likes of Green, Amber Rudd, Boris and that gimp they send over here should never been anywhere near a decision making cabinet in government.
Then you've Jeremy Hunt and the likes who seem capable, but in a very Tory way arrogant and ignorant in equal measure.

Avondhu star

Quote from: screenexile on May 22, 2017, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 22, 2017, 11:02:30 PM
May is doing her best to try and lose this election. Seeing her performance on TV with Neill earlier, it's no surprise that she has been kept hidden away. Forced into another U turn on the dementia, it lends yet more credence to the opinion that she is simply making it up as she goes along.

Neill wiped the floor with her that was f**king brilliant. Another two weeks of this as long as Corbyn doesn't do anything stupid and the gap will become worrisome!!

"As long as Corbyn doesnt do anything stupid"
He's probably busy preparing his " We must understand and embrace where ISIS is coming from" speech
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you

screenexile

Quote from: Avondhu star on May 23, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 22, 2017, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 22, 2017, 11:02:30 PM
May is doing her best to try and lose this election. Seeing her performance on TV with Neill earlier, it's no surprise that she has been kept hidden away. Forced into another U turn on the dementia, it lends yet more credence to the opinion that she is simply making it up as she goes along.

Neill wiped the floor with her that was f**king brilliant. Another two weeks of this as long as Corbyn doesn't do anything stupid and the gap will become worrisome!!

"As long as Corbyn doesnt do anything stupid"
He's probably busy preparing his " We must understand and embrace where ISIS is coming from" speech

Did you come up with that yourself . . . hilarious ::) ::)

Avondhu star

Quote from: screenexile on May 23, 2017, 11:23:45 AM
Quote from: Avondhu star on May 23, 2017, 11:21:38 AM
Quote from: screenexile on May 22, 2017, 11:17:14 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on May 22, 2017, 11:02:30 PM
May is doing her best to try and lose this election. Seeing her performance on TV with Neill earlier, it's no surprise that she has been kept hidden away. Forced into another U turn on the dementia, it lends yet more credence to the opinion that she is simply making it up as she goes along.

Neill wiped the floor with her that was f**king brilliant. Another two weeks of this as long as Corbyn doesn't do anything stupid and the gap will become worrisome!!

"As long as Corbyn doesnt do anything stupid"
He's probably busy preparing his " We must understand and embrace where ISIS is coming from" speech

Did you come up with that yourself . . . hilarious ::) ::)

Thank you. Now go back to the Antiques roadshow
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you