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From the Bunker

Quote from: trileacman on August 27, 2018, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
Irish Soccer is 100 years behind Gaelic games. Why? Because we oppressed it for those 100 years - well for 85 of it!

That's not true. Here in NI GAA was the oppressed sport, oppressed much more than soccer was in the Free State, and yet still outperforms the IFA in terms of participation and facilities. Bar the Stormont money the IFA would still be kicking ball in a Chernobyl-style Windsor Park and the 6'000 "safe capacity" Oval would be their second best stadium. The only major soccer clubs east of the Bann are Institute, Dungannon Swifts and Ballinamalllard.

How regularly soccer clubs in Ireland go to the wall are no fault of supposed traditional discrimination against soccer in Ireland. The idea that the financial mismanagement, ineptitude and corruption of the FAI should be bank-rolled by the state is a disgusting suggestion.

Fund pitches, coaches, small clubs and youths etc but the rest can get fcuked.

I am talking about Soccer down here. I don't have a clue about how things work or the politics with the IFA and I don't really care. Please don't quote me out of context. This is a FAI Stream.

Itchy

Have the FAI tried tried throwing a party for Declan and get John Delaney to buy everyone a few pints and throw out a few free football's and jerseys.

trileacman

Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
Irish Soccer is 100 years behind Gaelic games. Why? Because we oppressed it for those 100 years

That's your quote there's no possible way to misquote that. All I did was point out that it was a fallacy that Irish soccer lags behind gaelic games because of some perceived oppression of the sport.

No need to get so ratty because I countered your bull.
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Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: trileacman on August 27, 2018, 11:05:05 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
Irish Soccer is 100 years behind Gaelic games. Why? Because we oppressed it for those 100 years

That's your quote there's no possible way to misquote that. All I did was point out that it was a fallacy that Irish soccer lags behind gaelic games because of some perceived oppression of the sport.

No need to get so ratty because I countered your bull.
There is a legitimate argument about the tax on soccer and rugby tickets with funds raised to the GAA and capital grants being exclusive to Gaelic Games. Opression is the wrong word, but a level playing field it was not.

highorlow

Surprised that the MON interview on OTB isn't mentioned here today.

Good Lord O'Neil is some chancer. He doesn't work on corner routines because "he doesn't have the time".

We are fooked as long as he is at the helm.
They get momentum, they go mad, here they go

Applesisapples

Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on August 27, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: maldini on August 27, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
He played in 3 friendlies for the Ireland senior team and Southgate/The FA still went sniffing after him. Poor form.
Annoying when a player is developed through the underage squads and is then poached by another association.  You wouldn't get the FAI doing that....

Kind of makes the IFA poaching stance even more ridiculous as if it is just an FAI thing but hey you knew that already? By the way it is the clubs that develop the players and for both Irish associations they are by and large relying on English clubs to do all the work at the business end. So both sets of blazers need a kick up the hole.
Yes mate, fully aware that that it's not just an FAI thing.  Just interesting to hear ROI fans' aping what NI fans used to say when it happened to the NI team in the past.  Not too many coming out with the counter arguments that used to get trotted out when it was the ROI doing the poaching!
Some ROI fans complaining, me personally I'd let him go he's not fit to wear the jersey if he's that conflicted and good luck to him when he earns his 1 cap in a friendly against the Faroe Islands. But this actually exposes the issue for Scotland, Wales, NI and ROI. It is more likely that Rice qualified for England will be retained over a player qualified for the other "home" nations (as they are won't to be called) in a premier league awash with rejects from the other European leagues and limited opportunities for home grown players. Time possibly for a Celtic league akin to the Rugby?

AQMP

Quote from: Applesisapples on August 29, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on August 27, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: maldini on August 27, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
He played in 3 friendlies for the Ireland senior team and Southgate/The FA still went sniffing after him. Poor form.
Annoying when a player is developed through the underage squads and is then poached by another association.  You wouldn't get the FAI doing that....

Kind of makes the IFA poaching stance even more ridiculous as if it is just an FAI thing but hey you knew that already? By the way it is the clubs that develop the players and for both Irish associations they are by and large relying on English clubs to do all the work at the business end. So both sets of blazers need a kick up the hole.
Yes mate, fully aware that that it's not just an FAI thing.  Just interesting to hear ROI fans' aping what NI fans used to say when it happened to the NI team in the past.  Not too many coming out with the counter arguments that used to get trotted out when it was the ROI doing the poaching!
Some ROI fans complaining, me personally I'd let him go he's not fit to wear the jersey if he's that conflicted and good luck to him when he earns his 1 cap in a friendly against the Faroe Islands. But this actually exposes the issue for Scotland, Wales, NI and ROI. It is more likely that Rice qualified for England will be retained over a player qualified for the other "home" nations (as they are won't to be called) in a premier league awash with rejects from the other European leagues and limited opportunities for home grown players. Time possibly for a Celtic league akin to the Rugby?

Agree with this, if he's considering an approach to play for England then that suggests to me he's not 100% committed to Ireland and therefore O'Neill should be wishing him all the best with his England career.

rodney trotter

He was born and raised in London, he played with Ireland underage because he wasn't approached by England.
They should give him time, if he decides to stick with Ireland they should welcome him back. Not like ireland has an array of talent.Though McClean hardly helped things ranting as usual on Twitter

michaelg

Quote from: Applesisapples on August 29, 2018, 02:35:06 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 08:32:41 PM
Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on August 27, 2018, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: michaelg on August 27, 2018, 04:51:41 PM
Quote from: maldini on August 27, 2018, 02:13:58 PM
He played in 3 friendlies for the Ireland senior team and Southgate/The FA still went sniffing after him. Poor form.
Annoying when a player is developed through the underage squads and is then poached by another association.  You wouldn't get the FAI doing that....

Kind of makes the IFA poaching stance even more ridiculous as if it is just an FAI thing but hey you knew that already? By the way it is the clubs that develop the players and for both Irish associations they are by and large relying on English clubs to do all the work at the business end. So both sets of blazers need a kick up the hole.
Yes mate, fully aware that that it's not just an FAI thing.  Just interesting to hear ROI fans' aping what NI fans used to say when it happened to the NI team in the past.  Not too many coming out with the counter arguments that used to get trotted out when it was the ROI doing the poaching!
Some ROI fans complaining, me personally I'd let him go he's not fit to wear the jersey if he's that conflicted and good luck to him when he earns his 1 cap in a friendly against the Faroe Islands. But this actually exposes the issue for Scotland, Wales, NI and ROI. It is more likely that Rice qualified for England will be retained over a player qualified for the other "home" nations (as they are won't to be called) in a premier league awash with rejects from the other European leagues and limited opportunities for home grown players. Time possibly for a Celtic league akin to the Rugby?
Celtic and Rangers would be more keen to join the EPL.  Also, they would be too big for any new formed Celtic League.  Also, arguably the lesser SPL teams are still much larger clubs than any other teams that would be in the league so don't see how it could work.

JPGJOHNNYG

Harry Arter has pulled out of the Ireland squad and isnt likely to play for us again anytime soon. Rumour is he is unhappy with Keane questioning his fitness which led to some handbags the other week.
Consider MON is a crap football coach and is really on board for his knack of motivating poor players. If his man management skills are slipping then he doesnt really offer anything. Could be the beginning of the end for Mon and keane which will be welcome news for many

mouview

Wonder did Rice have second thoughts because of Keane also? He really is unsuitable for anything to do with man-management.

maldini

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on September 03, 2018, 02:02:31 PM
Harry Arter has pulled out of the Ireland squad and isnt likely to play for us again anytime soon. Rumour is he is unhappy with Keane questioning his fitness which led to some handbags the other week.Consider MON is a crap football coach and is really on board for his knack of motivating poor players. If his man management skills are slipping then he doesnt really offer anything. Could be the beginning of the end for Mon and keane which will be welcome news for many

Is that not one of the things McCarthy is alleged to have said to Keane which resulted in him leaving the team for a few years


BennyCake

Quote from: trileacman on August 27, 2018, 09:10:26 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 22, 2018, 12:24:05 PM
Irish Soccer is 100 years behind Gaelic games. Why? Because we oppressed it for those 100 years - well for 85 of it!

That's not true. Here in NI GAA was the oppressed sport, oppressed much more than soccer was in the Free State, and yet still outperforms the IFA in terms of participation and facilities. Bar the Stormont money the IFA would still be kicking ball in a Chernobyl-style Windsor Park and the 6'000 "safe capacity" Oval would be their second best stadium. The only major soccer clubs east of the Bann are Institute, Dungannon Swifts and Ballinamalllard.

How regularly soccer clubs in Ireland go to the wall are no fault of supposed traditional discrimination against soccer in Ireland. The idea that the financial mismanagement, ineptitude and corruption of the FAI should be bank-rolled by the state is a disgusting suggestion.

Fund pitches, coaches, small clubs and youths etc but the rest can get fcuked.

Aren't they west of the Bann?  :o

Shamrock Shore

Wheels are coming off the O'Neill/Keane wagon it seems.

One thing to lose matches............something entirely different to be losing players. Ok - one can say eff them if they don't want to play.......but if the man management is below what it should be then there is a problem that needs to be addressed.

However MON has a nice new contract in place and O'Brien's wedges no longer come in so don't expect any changes soon.

laoislad

Roy Keane falling out with someone... Who'd have thunk it....
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