Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

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full moon

It was deserved that Ballyhaise won that match, ten minutes into the match a Glenullin player spat in the face of a Ballyhaise player. Unacceptable.

clarshack

Quote from: full moon on November 25, 2023, 06:19:15 PMIt was deserved that Ballyhaise won that match, ten minutes into the match a Glenullin player spat in the face of a Ballyhaise player. Unacceptable.

Was that caught on camera?

Itchy

Today the Sligo senior hurling champions Easkey win the Connacht junior championship.

Itchy


clarshack

Quote from: Itchy on November 25, 2023, 10:23:29 PMThis was given as a point today

https://x.com/RooneyMal/status/1728454983811469440?t=k3qcV4R3XV9XDKF0gTzzfQ&s=09

Maybe someone spat in the umpires eye too

That's as bad i've ever seen. Umpire shouldn't be allowed to do another game. Unacceptable at any level.

Milltown Row2

Thankfully it didn't matter but that was shit
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Dreadnought

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2023, 10:35:18 PMThankfully it didn't matter but that was shit
Well it did matter in a 1 point win

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Dreadnought on November 25, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2023, 10:35:18 PMThankfully it didn't matter but that was shit
Well it did matter in a 1 point win

Was that the winners that scored? I thought Glenullin scored that?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Itchy

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2023, 11:30:38 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on November 25, 2023, 11:26:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on November 25, 2023, 10:35:18 PMThankfully it didn't matter but that was shit
Well it did matter in a 1 point win

Was that the winners that scored? I thought Glenullin scored that?

You are right, it was glencullen and it didn't matter in the end thankfully

ranch

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM[

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Exactly, league shouldn't matter.
With there being a split season it's much fairer that championship grades are based on championship performances when all clubs have their county players available. Basing it on league position is unfair, which is why we get a situation where a club like Cullyhanna  win a handy intermediate championship in Armagh this year.
If they are going to be linked then counties need to take Tyrone's approach and play the majority of league games once county players are back with their clubs, which defeats the point of the season being split in the first place.

smort

Quote from: ranch on November 26, 2023, 06:58:31 AM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM[

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Exactly, league shouldn't matter.
With there being a split season it's much fairer that championship grades are based on championship performances when all clubs have their county players available. Basing it on league position is unfair, which is why we get a situation where a club like Cullyhanna  win a handy intermediate championship in Armagh this year.
If they are going to be linked then counties need to take Tyrone's approach and play the majority of league games once county players are back with their clubs, which defeats the point of the season being split in the first place.

I thought the point of the split season was that clubs didn't play when county was playing. An intercounty season, and then a club season

intheknowhow

Quote from: ranch on November 26, 2023, 06:58:31 AM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM[

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Exactly, league shouldn't matter.
With there being a split season it's much fairer that championship grades are based on championship performances when all clubs have their county players available. Basing it on league position is unfair, which is why we get a situation where a club like Cullyhanna  win a handy intermediate championship in Armagh this year.
If they are going to be linked then counties need to take Tyrone's approach and play the majority of league games once county players are back with their clubs, which defeats the point of the season being split in the first place.

Should league status not seed your championship?

galwayman

Quote from: smort on November 26, 2023, 07:26:16 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 26, 2023, 06:58:31 AM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM[

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Exactly, league shouldn't matter.
With there being a split season it's much fairer that championship grades are based on championship performances when all clubs have their county players available. Basing it on league position is unfair, which is why we get a situation where a club like Cullyhanna  win a handy intermediate championship in Armagh this year.
If they are going to be linked then counties need to take Tyrone's approach and play the majority of league games once county players are back with their clubs, which defeats the point of the season being split in the first place.

I thought the point of the split season was that clubs didn't play when county was playing. An intercounty season, and then a club season
So if that's the case - say your county gets knocked out in mid June...
Club players get no games whatsoever at all (either league or championship) effectively until the start of July?
So you have to fit both competitions in at that stage.
If you want to lose players to the game that's a great starting point towards achieving it

smort

Quote from: galwayman on November 26, 2023, 09:10:43 AM
Quote from: smort on November 26, 2023, 07:26:16 AM
Quote from: ranch on November 26, 2023, 06:58:31 AM
Quote from: intheknowhow on November 25, 2023, 04:12:18 PM[

So league shouldn't matter? Ok, let Dublin play tailteann cup.. Kilkenny play Christy ring

Exactly, league shouldn't matter.
With there being a split season it's much fairer that championship grades are based on championship performances when all clubs have their county players available. Basing it on league position is unfair, which is why we get a situation where a club like Cullyhanna  win a handy intermediate championship in Armagh this year.
If they are going to be linked then counties need to take Tyrone's approach and play the majority of league games once county players are back with their clubs, which defeats the point of the season being split in the first place.

I thought the point of the split season was that clubs didn't play when county was playing. An intercounty season, and then a club season
So if that's the case - say your county gets knocked out in mid June...
Club players get no games whatsoever at all (either league or championship) effectively until the start of July?
So you have to fit both competitions in at that stage.
If you want to lose players to the game that's a great starting point towards achieving it

I disagree. Clubs can play preseason tournaments, regional leagues, divisional competitions, friendlies, whatever in May and June

The club season was too long previously. Let players have an off season. Let them get involved in other aspects of the club... Scor, club development, fundraising, underage. Let them have a life with family and friends. Play another sport, heaven forbid!

ranch

Quote from: intheknowhow on November 26, 2023, 08:55:20 AMShould league status not seed your championship?

No, I don't think it should. In Armagh the leagues and championships are linked. This year Shane O'Neills were competing in the senior championship having won both the intermediate championship and league in 2022.
They finished bottom of the senior league in 2023 having been without their 3 county players for basically every game.
This meant they were relegated to intermediate, unless they won the senior championship. However they were also 4th seeds when the senior championship draw was made due to their final league position, therefore further punishing them for being without their best players for the league.
In my opinion that system is much more unfair than the system in Cavan. Play leagues during the county season by all means, give lads football and a chance of winning a bit of silverware etc, but it should not in any way be linked to championship football later in the year.