Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[clarshack]

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

So they should stop promotion from the English Championship?

Crazy for other Derry clubs to not complain. If Glenullin go up to Senior last season (like what happens in every other county) then another Derry club most likely Bannagher would be having a crack at Ulster Intermediate right now.

[Brendan]

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

So they should stop promotion from the English Championship?

Soccer is a business and the tens of millions parachute payments make it a far easier decision for the boards of the clubs mentioned

[North Man]

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

So they should stop promotion from the English Championship?

Soccer is a business and the tens of millions parachute payments make it a far easier decision for the boards of the clubs mentioned

[North Man]

Who says Banagher would have won Derry if Glenullin had been promoted.
They had Glenullin beaten going into injury time, then they sh1t themselves

[rodney trotter]

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

Westmeath weren't going to be winning the All Ireland this year , didn't mean they weren't happy to compete in the All Ireland series after winning the Tailtean. Same with Meath next year. They want to get better and improve.

[quit yo jibbajabba]

Don't understand the fume. Scraped over the line in Derry last year and this year in semi and final. Got walloped first round Ulster last year. I'd say they'd be far from confident in a final if they even get that far. They didn't get promotion in the league so all in all settle down old chaps 😆🤣

[Wildweasel74]

I say they not the strongest team in Derry at this level, I still think Banagher stronger than them, result aside. Within a couple of years, once the Derry senior league at 12, Derry Intermediate teams will be strong, which normally hasn't been the case odd 25yrs with some exceptions. Ballinderry although young, I seen a few times this year and they be way stronger I think, than any team in the, Ulster Intermediate this year, only Coleraine be fit to put it up to them in Derry,

[rodney trotter]

I say they not the strongest team in Derry at this level, I still think Banagher stronger than them, result aside. Within a couple of years, once the Derry senior league at 12, Derry Intermediate teams will be strong, which normally hasn't been the case odd 25yrs with some exceptions. Ballinderry although young, I seen a few times this year and they be way stronger I think, than any team in the, Ulster Intermediate this year, only Coleraine be fit to put it up to them in Derry,

That's what Cavan done a few years ago. Reduced Senior to 12, 14 in Intermediate and 14 in Junior.
Hence why Arva are down in Junior.

They have only been in Division 1 since this year, and stayed up in a play off. Ye are doing a lot of complaining about it

[SaffronSports]

No club should win 2 in a row at any grade outside senior. You win a championship you should move up and try to kick on.

[onefineday]

The Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.

Its because they have their 9th best team playing in intermediate. Imagine the 9th best team in Dublin doing that ffs.

Dublin have a senior Championship with 16 teams and a senior 2 championship with 16 teams - senior 2 winners get promotion to senior, but don't go into Leinster intermediate - in the interests of fairness I presume. I think Clontarf might have fancied their chances of having a decent intermediate run.

[onefineday]

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case

So they should stop promotion from the English Championship?

Crazy for other Derry clubs to not complain. If Glenullin go up to Senior last season (like what happens in every other county) then another Derry club most likely Bannagher would be having a crack at Ulster Intermediate right now.

Historically promotion in championship grades in Derry has been strictly linked to leagues. Division 1 teams play senior, div 2 play intermediate etc. This led to an extremely competitive league, it's probably fair to say that prior to the introduction of the all Ireland series, the intermediate and junior championships were very much an afterthought for teams at that level.

It's only in recent years with the move to 'split season' and the impact that's having on league football that has led to the decoupling. As for not being promoted, it's out of the club's hands, it wasn't an option. They've shown they're at the same level as the other 2/3 teams at the top of the grade, they've a very tough Ulster semi coming up which they'll be underdogs in and with Ballinderry now in intermediate, chances of the threepeat will greatly reduced.

[DownFanatic]

Ulster IFC

5/11/23 - Preliminary Round

Teemore (Fermanagh) 0-04 v Liatroim (Down) 3-06

12/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Glenullin (Derry) 3-13 v Glenravel (Antrim) 0-07

Ballyhaise (Cavan) 4-15 v Downings (Donegal) 0-11

Pomeroy (Tyrone) 0-10 v Cullyhanna (Armagh) 0-11

Killanny (Monaghan) 0-07 v Liatroim (Down) 0-09

Semi Finals

Glenullin v Ballyhaise
Cullyhanna v Liatroim


Ulster JFC

29/10/23 - Preliminary Round

Ballyhegan (Armagh) 1-06 v Fintona (Tyrone) 1-16

5/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Ballymaguigan (Derry) 0-08 v Arva (Cavan) 2-17

Na Rossa (Donegal) 2-05 v Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 1-09

Blackhill (Monaghan) 5-11 v Rasharkin (Antim) 1-07

Fintona (Tyrone) 0-11 v Drumaness (Down) 0-07

Semi Finals

Arva v Lisnaskea
Blackhill v Fintona

[general_lee]

Intermediate looks fairly open, I reckon it will be a Ballyhaise/Cullyhanna final though.

Who do Arva play in the AI Junior semi?

[SouthOfThe Bann]

This weeks predictions;

Arva v Lisnaskea - Arva by 23
Blackhill v Fintona - Blackhill by 3

[Blowitupref]

Former Donegal player and manager Declan Bonner is facing a 12-week suspension arising from his red card in Na Rossa's recent Ulster Club JFC quarter-final against Lisnaskea.

The Na Rossa boss was sent off along with players Denis O'Donnell, Christian Bonner and Sean McMonagle and team physio Mickey McGlynn during the ill-tempered clash which Lisnaskea won by 1-9 to 2-5. A 12-week ban has also been proposed for McGlynn by the Ulster CCC after examining referee Richie Donoghue's report.

After the game, Bonner described the standard of officating as "an absolute disgrace".