Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

Started by DownFanatic, September 19, 2023, 12:35:21 PM

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Brendan

Can't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year

SouthOfThe Bann

Not sure if anyone is watching Ballyhaise v Downings.

As good a first half from a team as I've seen at his level.

Ballyhiase 3-9 0-5 Downings.

Ballyhaise with great use of the kick pass.

Not sure how good Downings are but Cullyhanna could have competition for this Ulster title yet.

Glenullin with a routine victory also.

mrdeeds

Ballyhaise would be very big physically and an excellent team. Have been trying to win intermediate for years in Cavan and kept losing finals.

Wildweasel74

Derry League was 16 for years, currently 14, think they moving to 12, hence there no teams coming up for a few years to its levels our, Yah be a joke if they were playing senior football like the Cavan team. They won 2years in a row but I still don't think they were the best team in Derry at their level either year.

rodney trotter

Quote from: Brendan on November 12, 2023, 02:48:56 PMCan't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year

Because in most other counties when you win Junior or Intermediate you are promoted not stuck in the same championship the following year.

Armagh18

Quote from: Brendan on November 12, 2023, 02:48:56 PMCan't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year
Because in a normal world if you win the lower level comp you go up to the next tier.

full moon

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2023, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 12, 2023, 01:46:41 PMGlenullin have massively improved from last year. Still a joke though that they aren't moving up to Senior in 2024 either.
Wtf is that about. Ulster GAA should step in.

Agree, any county grading that allows teams to win an Intermediate championship not get promotion then sit there and win it again the following year is farcical.

Grading system very suspect in Derry it seems.

full moon

Quote from: Brendan on November 12, 2023, 02:48:56 PMCan't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year

In most counties you win the Intermediate championship and you get promoted to senior, otherwise what is the point in holding the competition?

Only exception is Reserve/2nd teams from bigger clubs winning it

full moon

The Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.

Wildweasel74

The teams that would come down are way stronger than Glenullin, you see that the hard way with Ballinderry and, Coleraine in the intermediate championship next year.

Armagh18

Quote from: full moon on November 12, 2023, 04:24:33 PMThe Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.
Its because they have their 9th best team playing in intermediate. Imagine the 9th best team in Dublin doing that ffs.

full moon

Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2023, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 12, 2023, 04:24:33 PMThe Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.
Its because they have their 9th best team playing in intermediate. Imagine the 9th best team in Dublin doing that ffs.
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They also can coast through Munster club for the most part whereas Ulster club is extremely competitive from nearly all counties

Armagh18

Quote from: full moon on November 12, 2023, 05:08:26 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on November 12, 2023, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: full moon on November 12, 2023, 04:24:33 PMThe Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.
Its because they have their 9th best team playing in intermediate. Imagine the 9th best team in Dublin doing that ffs.
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They also can coast through Munster club for the most part whereas Ulster club is extremely competitive from nearly all counties
Fossa vs Cullyhanna AIF maybe.

ClubScene13

Quote from: Brendan on November 12, 2023, 02:48:56 PMCan't understand why people are so baffled by Glenullin still being intermediate, Steelstown won an All Ireland, went up to Derry senior and got tanked in their first year and Glenullin are far off the pace with them. Also consider Ballinderry and Coleraine, multiple Derry senior championships between them are in Derry Intermeidate next year

Give your head a wobble Brendan, have you seen it happen anywhere else?

Brendan

What's better for a club go up a grade and yoyo year after year same as Norwich, West Brom etc in the premier league. Glenullin aren't good enough for senior and don't get everything their own way in Intermediate as their 2 final wins have shown, you won't hear any other Intermediate clubs in Derry complain because they understand this to be the case