Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[general_lee]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

[mrdeeds]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Don't see why there should be a link. Teams play without county players for league so some teams would have a huge advantage. Arva winning comfortably despite playing a lot of game with 14.

[Armagh18]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Don't wee why there should be a link. Teams play without county players for league so some teams would have a huge advantage. Arva winning comfortably despite playing a lot of game with 14.

But if you're fit to play division 1 league without your county players why should you be playing junior championship with your county players lol

[clarshack]

Arva battered Ballymaguigan by 15 points and Ballymaguigan are no mugs. Looks very ominous for the rest of the teams left in the Ulster Junior Championship..

[mrdeeds]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Don't wee why there should be a link. Teams play without county players for league so some teams would have a huge advantage. Arva winning comfortably despite playing a lot of game with 14.

But if you're fit to play division 1 league without your county players why should you be playing junior championship with your county players lol

That's one outlier. When they got from division 3 to 1 they only had Ciaran Brady in county panel. Now have 3. A competition by it's nature is meant to be fair and even so linking two is in no way fair.

[clarshack]

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

[galwayman]

The reason I like the fact that there is no link is that the league can go ahead to conclusion without county players. Not sure that would be the case if it affected your championship status.
We get a league game every two weeks uninterrupted from early March up until early July (dual county so alternate football and hurling weekends). And then a short 3-4 weeks until first round of championship.
Much better than it used to be

[mrdeeds]

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

Tristan Noack Hoffman and Johnaton McCabe.

[marty34]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Div. 1 league teams should be in senior championship, Div. 2 in Intermediate and Div. 3 should be in Junior championship.

Mad that clubs in Cavan play Div. 1 but play Junior - crazy stuff.

[Armagh18]

Each to their own i suppose whatever works in each county. In Armagh its more or less accepted you won't have your county men for the bulk of the league so you just forget about them but its still linked.

Totally agree with Marty above.

[clarshack]

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

Tristan Noack Hoffman and Johnaton McCabe.

They'll have plenty of ex Cavan Minor & U-20/21 players too?

[JoG2]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Don't see why there should be a link. Teams play without county players for league so some teams would have a huge advantage. Arva winning comfortably despite playing a lot of game with 14.

Arva battered Ballymaguigan by 15 points and Ballymaguigan are no mugs. Looks very ominous for the rest of the teams left in the Ulster Junior Championship..

Great to see Arva prevail at the expense of the Derry Div 3 junior champions.
Maybe Derry should send Loup or Newbridge into junior next year, pick up some junior level silverware

[mrdeeds]

Who are Arva's 2 other county players?

Tristan Noack Hoffman and Johnaton McCabe.

They'll have plenty of ex Cavan Minor & U-20/21 players too?

Yeah the Morris brothers and Bouchier. They were probably knocking about the senior panel too I think.

[clarshack]

Stewartstown were fortunate enough to beat Drumlane who knocked out Arva last season and Stewartstown were only in Junior due to Covid. Just can't see the Cavan champions getting caught out this year.

Will next year too see Knockbride playing in Division 1 having won the Division 2 Final and playing in the Junior Championship?

[general_lee]

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

As a matter of interest - is every county different in terms of whether or not there is a link between league and championship?
In Galway we used to have senior league, intermediate league, junior league etc. You played at that same grade for Championship.2 up and 2 down each year.
To get senior you either had to win the intermediate league or win the intermediate championship.
Restructure maybe 10-11 years ago removed the link between c'ship and league.
Your league division has nothing to do with what championship grade you play in at all.
My own club play junior championship but in our league (division 3) all
of the other teams play either intermediate or senior championship.
These provincial club championships are amazing competitions.
Played in a Connacht final a good few years back and was a brilliant experience.

There should be a link between league and championship, probably the fairest way when it comes to provincial club competitions. Cavan have a similar set up with Division 1 clubs plying their trade at Junior level - pretty ridiculous that clubs good enough to play Division 1 football are able to compete against genuine Junior clubs in Ulster competition.

Don't see why there should be a link. Teams play without county players for league so some teams would have a huge advantage. Arva winning comfortably despite playing a lot of game with 14.

Arva battered Ballymaguigan by 15 points and Ballymaguigan are no mugs. Looks very ominous for the rest of the teams left in the Ulster Junior Championship..

Great to see Arva prevail at the expense of the Derry Div 3 junior champions.
Maybe Derry should send Loup or Newbridge into junior next year, pick up some junior level silverware

To be fair I see the Swa had a handsome win in Ulster Junior hurling championship yesterday.