China Coronavirus

[michaelg]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-55192562

Lovely.

What you mean by that comment?

Not what you think I meant anyway, I can assure you.

It was in reference to my previous yapping about how schools should have been closed when everything else was closed for the 2 weeks here in the North. Absolutely nothing else.

Fair enough.

[FermGael]

The big difference between the North and the South has been leadership.
In the North we had Sinn Fein and the Bobby Storey fiasco.  Then, so they were not undone , Edwin decided that the Coruna Virus was a Catholic virus.
In the South , they locked down properly the second time and early and for longer . Essential shops were exactly that. Up North, you will find a load of shops still open. Unbelievable how many are now selling essential items but this means they can keep the rest of the shop open as they are selling a few nails and a bit of bed linen in the corner .
Up North they gave a weeks notice before the 2 week lockdown. This explains why the numbers have not dropped here and have in fact risen.
No doubt that both the North and the South will see a rise in cases over and past Christmas. They key difference is that the South has the work done and their rise will be manageable . That will not be the case in the North.  It will be a diaster .

[BennyCake]

The big difference between the North and the South has been leadership.
In the North we had Sinn Fein and the Bobby Storey fiasco.  Then, so they were not undone , Edwin decided that the Coruna Virus was a Catholic virus.
In the South , they locked down properly the second time and early and for longer . Essential shops were exactly that. Up North, you will find a load of shops still open. Unbelievable how many are now selling essential items but this means they can keep the rest of the shop open as they are selling a few nails and a bit of bed linen in the corner .
Up North they gave a weeks notice before the 2 week lockdown. This explains why the numbers have not dropped here and have in fact risen.
No doubt that both the North and the South will see a rise in cases over and past Christmas. They key difference is that the South has the work done and their rise will be manageable . That will not be the case in the North.  It will be a diaster .

Leadership eh? Where's the leadership from both shower of pricks, when NINE MONTHS down the line, both jurisdictions still haven't  had joint up thinking on the pandemic?

One opens up, the other shuts, that sort of crap still has repercussions for both areas, especially around border areas. They've had f**king NINE MONTHS!!! Un-f**king-forgivable!!

[marty34]

The big difference between the North and the South has been leadership.
In the North we had Sinn Fein and the Bobby Storey fiasco.  Then, so they were not undone , Edwin decided that the Coruna Virus was a Catholic virus.
In the South , they locked down properly the second time and early and for longer . Essential shops were exactly that. Up North, you will find a load of shops still open. Unbelievable how many are now selling essential items but this means they can keep the rest of the shop open as they are selling a few nails and a bit of bed linen in the corner .
Up North they gave a weeks notice before the 2 week lockdown. This explains why the numbers have not dropped here and have in fact risen.
No doubt that both the North and the South will see a rise in cases over and past Christmas. They key difference is that the South has the work done and their rise will be manageable . That will not be the case in the North.  It will be a diaster .

Leadership eh? Where's the leadership from both shower of pricks, when NINE MONTHS down the line, both jurisdictions still haven't  had joint up thinking on the pandemic?

One opens up, the other shuts, that sort of crap still has repercussions for both areas, especially around border areas. They've had f**king NINE MONTHS!!! Un-f**king-forgivable!!

Do you think the DUP are going to look towards Dublin in terms of the rules and regulations etc?

If so, you're badly misguided.

[FermGael]

The DUP look towards Dublin ?
No chance that will happen.

The DUP look to London for leadership.
Sinn Fein look to Dublin.
Never the two will meet
That's the issue in a nutshell.

Complete agree with border issues.
Enniskillen has been rammed for a month .
Asda will have record profits again in Newry and Enniskillen.

My point may have been lost
The South did a proper second lockdown
The north delayed and did a half arsed job which is why we have so many infections.

[BennyCake]

Have the Dublin government no blame in this?

I didn't see them doing too much to team up with the North.

I mean, if Seamy Bryson can see an All Ireland approach is the only option...

[armaghniac]

The big difference between the North and the South has been leadership.
In the North we had Sinn Fein and the Bobby Storey fiasco.  Then, so they were not undone , Edwin decided that the Coruna Virus was a Catholic virus.
In the South , they locked down properly the second time and early and for longer . Essential shops were exactly that. Up North, you will find a load of shops still open. Unbelievable how many are now selling essential items but this means they can keep the rest of the shop open as they are selling a few nails and a bit of bed linen in the corner .
Up North they gave a weeks notice before the 2 week lockdown. This explains why the numbers have not dropped here and have in fact risen.
No doubt that both the North and the South will see a rise in cases over and past Christmas. They key difference is that the South has the work done and their rise will be manageable . That will not be the case in the North.  It will be a diaster .

The south has done OK and a bit of a boost over Xmas will not lead to outright disaster, it can be dampened down again

[RadioGAAGAA]

Have the Dublin government no blame in this?

Very little blame on Dublin IMO.

How do you try and manage a partnership with Stormont when they cannot even manage themselves?

[imtommygunn]

I would say none. Why would you align or share a "strategy" when they are falling out, making it a sectarian issue and making decisions at the very last minute.

Sure numbers have got no better yet they are lifting half the lockdown.

[marty34]

Have the Dublin government no blame in this?

Very little blame on Dublin IMO.

How do you try and manage a partnership with Stormont when they cannot even manage themselves?

Do you think there was going to be harmony?

If so, you're not tuned in.

SF/SDLP look to Dublin, while the DUP/UUP look to London for guidance on covid.

With that outlook, there was never going to be agreement and all those people who say, Stormont is a mess would be the same people complaining if SF/SDLP would say we're following London's model.

It's a no-win situation.

[armaghniac]

We are not on an island with London, so the London model is not relevant.

[imtommygunn]

Everyone knows that but the dup. They would sooner rot than follow Dublin.

[lfdown2]

FF and FG would rather enter a coalition together than share info with SF, even in a pandemic. The DUP and SF in the north have both stated from the beginning they had been disappointed that formation had not been shared in relation to lockdowns and strategy.

[armaghniac]

FF and FG would rather enter a coalition together than share info with SF, even in a pandemic. The DUP and SF in the north have both stated from the beginning they had been disappointed that formation had not been shared in relation to lockdowns and strategy.

How could they have cooperated with Stormont? Swann stopped testing contracts on 11 March without any discussion with Dublin and later left all the shops open in Derry even when it was one of the worst places.

[LCohen]

FF and FG would rather enter a coalition together than share info with SF, even in a pandemic. The DUP and SF in the north have both stated from the beginning they had been disappointed that formation had not been shared in relation to lockdowns and strategy.

How could they have cooperated with Stormont? Swann stopped testing contracts on 11 March without any discussion with Dublin and later left all the shops open in Derry even when it was one of the worst places.

Have any decisions been made in Dublin without reference to Stormont?