John Morrison for Cavan

Started by boojangles, September 09, 2011, 11:48:36 AM

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mylestheslasher

Quote from: whiskeysteve on September 09, 2011, 12:39:04 PM
Brazil nuts
Players talking to each other in a dark room
Walking along a plank over a skip and 'emptying' your negative thoughts into it

These are the 3 gimmicks i've heard of, im sure there are many more

Wouldn't surprise me if theres plenty of Feng Shui about Cavan over the winter  ;D

He probably need something bigger than a skip, maybe a 40 ft artic container.

ck

Lads, why has Morrison never been involved with Armagh?? His home county.
He has been with at least 6 counties in some shape or form that I know of but not his native?

Farrandeelin

Quote from: Rossfan on September 09, 2011, 03:57:27 PM
If ye could only have ended the 2006 season that evening .. ;D ;D

If only indeed, you wouldn't be able to have those emoticons sure you wouldn't.
Inaugural Football Championship Prediction Winner.

ck

Quote from: Take Your Points on September 09, 2011, 06:40:26 PM
Everybody in Armagh knows Beefer too well.  Even POR would have been preferred to Beefer.

So that's why he never got a shot with Armagh?? You all know him too well? (!) ???

Throw ball

Quote from: ck on September 09, 2011, 06:25:44 PM
Lads, why has Morrison never been involved with Armagh?? His home county.
He has been with at least 6 counties in some shape or form that I know of but not his native?

He was assistant to Jim McCrory with Armagh in the early to mid nineties - before the two Brians took over.

ck

Quote from: Take Your Points on September 10, 2011, 01:11:45 PM
Quote from: Throw ball on September 10, 2011, 01:46:22 AM

He was assistant to Jim McCrory with Armagh in the early to mid nineties - before the two Brians took over.

One of the lowest points in the history of Armagh county football probably the worst after the period prior to Gerry O'Neill taking over from 1976.

So what is the word in Armagh on Morrison? Is he just an extravagent bluffer? I spoke to an ex Leitrim player last year and he he reckoned he was "an acquired taste" !

Give and Go

An awful lot of smart asses and bluffers on here.
Not many coaches have had teams compete at the level Morrison has done so regularly.
Derry, Donegal and Mayo all featured in Croke Park at All Ireland level, quarter finals, semi finals or final. For someone so ridiculed that's a fair record..once might be luck, twice fortunate but three times...
And if you go back over those three - Mayo shot themselves in the foot getting rid of them and are only now recovering, Donegal self destructed - as the players now admit and Derry is so political Ferguson would have his work cut out..

A lot of more 'credible' coaches wouldnt come near his record ....
Yeah he has some unique methods esp around mental prep but many many top class inter county players swear by his coaching ability - in all those counties.

And he often is contacted by other counties to come in and take sessions - Cork being one that he was with.....
You guys at the keyboards wouldn't be fit to lace his boots.....
Ive seen Morrison in action and I know of no other coach who can deal with questions from players looking for help with their own game. Many of the players value the work he has done.

He's definitely different but you couldn't question his coaching ability or his knowledge of the game.
Like many good coaches and players, he knows it and isn't waiting for the approval of keyboard experts to take on any job!

Like every coach, he has his strengths and weaknesses but all you gotta do is take what you need for yourself as a player and a team..

mylestheslasher

Quote from: Give and Go on September 10, 2011, 03:29:53 PM
An awful lot of smart asses and bluffers on here.
Not many coaches have had teams compete at the level Morrison has done so regularly.
Derry, Donegal and Mayo all featured in Croke Park at All Ireland level, quarter finals, semi finals or final. For someone so ridiculed that's a fair record..once might be luck, twice fortunate but three times...
And if you go back over those three - Mayo shot themselves in the foot getting rid of them and are only now recovering, Donegal self destructed - as the players now admit and Derry is so political Ferguson would have his work cut out..

A lot of more 'credible' coaches wouldnt come near his record ....
Yeah he has some unique methods esp around mental prep but many many top class inter county players swear by his coaching ability - in all those counties.

And he often is contacted by other counties to come in and take sessions - Cork being one that he was with.....
You guys at the keyboards wouldn't be fit to lace his boots.....
Ive seen Morrison in action and I know of no other coach who can deal with questions from players looking for help with their own game. Many of the players value the work he has done.

He's definitely different but you couldn't question his coaching ability or his knowledge of the game.
Like many good coaches and players, he knows it and isn't waiting for the approval of keyboard experts to take on any job!

Like every coach, he has his strengths and weaknesses but all you gotta do is take what you need for yourself as a player and a team..

I hope you are right because he is going to have his work cut out dealing with some of the Cavan players. Time will tell.

Give and Go

Thats gas. Wasnt too long ago that the duo were being pilloried. Now Mickey was a guru! Mickey is and was an outstanding coach in his own right but the two together worked really well. Mickey, by his own admission to me, quite clearly stated that John was the best coach he had ever known.
And where Mickey was brilliant at devising great drills John's training was more game based, involved decision making and involved more game related movement - as opposed to drills which by their nature involve straight line running and 'queueing'.
Each had their own methods which complemented the other.

Lar Naparka

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Quote from: Give and Go on September 10, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
Thats gas. Wasnt too long ago that the duo were being pilloried. Now Mickey was a guru! Mickey is and was an outstanding coach in his own right but the two together worked really well. Mickey, by his own admission to me, quite clearly stated that John was the best coach he had ever known.
And where Mickey was brilliant at devising great drills John's training was more game based, involved decision making and involved more game related movement - as opposed to drills which by their nature involve straight line running and 'queueing'.
Each had their own methods which complemented the other.

Maybe the two lads deserve everything you say about them and a bit more besides but, to keep things in perspective, it wasn't a matter of spreading sweetness and light wherever they went. They had their failures too.
Sure, they brought Mayo to an All Ireland final at their first attempt and are due credit for that. But it should also be kept in mind that by the time they got to the final, relationships with the players had become somewhat strained—to put it very mildly.

That's not me on a rant btw; a number of Mayo players went public about this after the 2006 final. David Brady was one and David Heaney was another. There were a number of others.
If you recall, Mayo players created quite a fuss when they decided to do their warm up at the Hill 16 end before the semi final with the Dubs.
Now, the interesting bit was the fact that they didn't tell M&M beforehand. They had decided well in advance to do this but Mickey and Beefer were unaware of their plans until the team headed en masse towards the Hill.
According to some of those who went public, the senior players before the final pleaded with them to put Brady on from the start and not play Jimmy Nallen at CHB.
They knew from '04 that Nallen wasn't quick enough to cope with Declan O'Sullivan and Jack O'Connor knew this too because he insisted in playing O'Sullivan even though he was definitely off-form. It caused a big stir in Kerry because it meant depriving Gooch of the captaincy.
But everyone in the country knew he had the Indian sign on Nallen- everyone that is bar Mickey and Beefer.
The rest is history. 

I know M& M brought a lot of positives to Mayo football and they were shabbily treated by the Mayo County Board but I think it's fair to point that they had their detractors wherever they went and many who criticised them felt they had good reason to do so.

Nil Carborundum Illegitemi

Give and Go

Far comment Lar Naparka.
It's also true to say that Brady was always difficult; not only M&M had problems with him - every Mayo manager found Brady to be a handful to say the least. Piry because he prob never realised his full potential.

johnny99

John Morrison is probably the best gaelic football coach in the business. he has written ground breaking manuals such as " head,hands @ feet, " games for better team play " prepare to win  " and " game sense " as well as a conditioned games dvd. He is one of the few coaches who can cover the full spectrum ie fitness work, st @ con , game plans, mental preparation , lifestyle mgmt etc and is a brilliant mentor coach as well as being a totally proficient  coach from nursery to senior levels. If you are in doubt go along to see him in action at a county board workshop and witness first hand the sheer brilliance of the man in action. You will not see players doing long laps, everything is with the ball and game related and sessions are sharp and intense and wont exceed 65/70 mins inc w/up and cool down. At county level he conducts 1 on 1 clinics with players before training to " spot and fix " faults etc and each player must pass a hydration test before being allowed participate in the group session. ( this should be interesting in Cavan ) ! Seriously folks, this guy is the real deal so dont knock him if you havnt seen him in action.

Gael85

Quote from: Take Your Points on September 10, 2011, 06:54:44 PM
What is his record without Mickey Moran who is actually recognised as a first class coach who brought teams to Croke Park?

1980-1984       Derry
1995               Derry
1996-2000       Sligo
2001-2002       Donegal
2003-2005       Derry
2006               Mayo
2009-Present    Leitrim


Did John Morrison manage Antrim in the mid nineties?

johnny99

yes pretty sure he was involved at some stage with Antrim, has anyone used his coaching manuals ? most of the modern day conditioned games come from him, Philip Kerr and Terence Mc williams and have been used extensively by most successfull county and club teams in the past ten years.

screenexile

Quote from: johnny99 on September 12, 2011, 06:24:56 PM
yes pretty sure he was involved at some stage with Antrim, has anyone used his coaching manuals ? most of the modern day conditioned games come from him, Philip Kerr and Terence Mc williams and have been used extensively by most successfull county and club teams in the past ten years.

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