Two very bad goals given away made things more difficult for Armagh however a get out of jail card used and after that performance should be zero expectation to win the Ulster final.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 03:25:40 PMI already stated I'd prefer to see Arsenal pip them to the title to keep things fresh. Have never said you can win the PL without money, just that their success doesn't put my knickers in a twist. If anything I've found their emergence a breath of fresh air up to this.
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 01:55:53 PMQuote from: jcpen on April 27, 2024, 01:31:12 PMHaven't forgot, just couldn't care less. City are entitled to appeal and if they get away scot-free all's fair in love and war. Football is incredibly corrupt, always was so I'll take my moral cues from elsewhere, certainly not from a football governing body.Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 09:31:12 AMYou forgot they've done all this by breaking financial rules and have 115 charges against them.. but yeah fair play to them.Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2024, 08:23:21 AMDare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.
Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.
Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year b ut fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.
PL was quite happy to follow the money and sell out, same as the big clubs in PL. Very happy to get in bed with the devil and devalue their history, FA Cup cough cough, but start crying not fair when they get blind sided by a minnow who wooed big money and then manage that money a hell of a lot better than they ever could.
But there's no point getting too worked up about it either way. I follow football for what happens on the field, not off it, and appreciate City for what they've done. A truly class team.
Quote from: yellowcard on April 25, 2024, 02:36:36 PMQuote from: Applesisapples on April 25, 2024, 09:12:54 AMI didn't see the Derry/Donegal match, but I am seriously impressed by any team allegedly out played who's best players were stymied but still managed 17 points. Goals win games but can be prevented. it was 15 scores to 17.
I can never understand this post match analysis which counts the number of scores rather than total up the number of points. There is a reason why a goal is worth 3 points and that is because they are supposed to be much more difficult to score.
Mickey Harte has yet to prove that he can adapt tactically to prevent goal chances against his side while still carrying a goal threat at the other end of the pitch. He did neither last weekend.
Quote from: J70 on April 25, 2024, 01:30:39 PMYeah, expectations will be tempered for next season all right. Top 4 would be an excellent achievement for Slot or whoever the new man ends up being.
And Klopp, there will be a fist-bump statue at some point!
Quote from: jcpen on April 21, 2024, 06:39:35 PMTell me you know nothing about football without telling me you know nothing about football
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 21, 2024, 01:29:18 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on April 21, 2024, 01:00:17 AMQuote from: Truthsayer on April 21, 2024, 12:22:39 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 20, 2024, 11:59:45 PMDerry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.
A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.
I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.
My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.
True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.
Yeah something like that wouldn't happen with a Rory Gallagher managed team
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0722/892196-galway-v-donegal-report/#:~:text=Galway%20routed%20Donegal%20with%20a,once%2Dfeared%20defence%20to%20shreds.
https://derrygaa.ie/allianz-football-league-roinn-2-derry-0-12-galway-4-11-20-03-22/
That championship match was 2017 he'd brought them on a long way since that.. as for a league game irrelevant sure Tyrone got hammered in the league by Kerry in 2021 and took Sam up the road a few months later.
Mickey can't handle th
The big championship games... not in years...
Quote from: Truthsayer on April 21, 2024, 12:22:39 AMQuote from: RedHand88 on April 20, 2024, 11:59:45 PMDerry were not serious All Ireland contenders ffs. They are at a level below Kerry/Dublin, same as Armagh/Mayo/Galway/Tyrone/Donegal.
A few facts:
They beat Clare and Cork to get to AISFs the last 2 years.
Kerry played sh1te against them last year and still bate them.
They won the league final against Dublin reserves and believed the hype.
I also really think the new structure hurts teams in Derrys position. 4(?) weeks of no championship football before potentially playing Dublin or Kerry.
My prediction: they'll get through the group by beating the guff but will go out at the quarter final stage to a bigger team. Questions will remain over Harte but he will get to stay and we will see the same next year, only a bit worse.
True though they were being mooted with Dublin and Kerry as top 3. That league 'win' (penalty shootout) was very overstated and hyped. Harte got left behind in managing a long time ago. Hadn't beat Dublin, Kerry or Mayo in the championship 2009-2020. I don't think that would
have happened to Rory Gallagher today.
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 20, 2024, 08:22:10 PMHow impressive were Donegal in the midfield battle though
Quote from: SouthOfThe Bann on April 20, 2024, 09:08:29 PMWas the training camp too close to the game?
Quote from: RedHand88 on April 20, 2024, 07:31:44 PMAt least this nonsense of Derry being all ireland contenders can settle down for a while.