Brexit.

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Farrandeelin

Shaleish Vara Northern Ireland minister has resigned.
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seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on November 14, 2018, 10:12:55 PM
I think this charade has clearly shown that all the DUP care about is waving a union flag and calling themselves British, and to hell with the economy, jobs, livelihoods etc in the north. And that SF don't care diddly squat about anything either, other than trying to get a United Ireland.

Two useless shower of cnuts.
If you look at Arlene Foster's twitter feed it is in large part« look how British we are » but it is
a very Enid Blyton mix of royal family and wars.

Happy birthday to HRH the prince of Wales
On this day the IRA murdered
Parliament buildings Stormont lit poppy red
Enniskillen tonight #proud #Armistice
A very informative night at Ardess Parish Centre hearing about Private William McBride who lived in Irvinestown
Portadown Re-Dedication of the war memorial .
On this day the IRA murdered
Watch The Queen's speech at last night's State Banquet
At 8pm watch The Duke and Duchess of Sussex welcome the British and Australian veterans
A five-year-old boy couldn't resist touching Prince Harry's beard during a school visit in Australia
A fanfare, performed by State Trumpeters of the Household Cavalry, is played, followed by the National Anthem. #RoyalWedding

It's basically frozen in time. It's backward compared to identity in Scotland and Wales.
They don't know who they are. They need to distance themselves from the Tory party and they can't because there is nothing else for them to hold onto.





"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Shaleish Vara Northern Ireland minister has resigned.
Je said the referendum was a convincing victory iirc at 52:48
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Farrandeelin

Raab gone too. Jesus, Mary and St. Joseph.
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johnnycool

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Shaleish Vara Northern Ireland minister has resigned.

That's another huge loss to the wee six   ::)

Quote from: seafoid on November 15, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 14, 2018, 10:12:55 PM
I think this charade has clearly shown that all the DUP care about is waving a union flag and calling themselves British, and to hell with the economy, jobs, livelihoods etc in the north. And that SF don't care diddly squat about anything either, other than trying to get a United Ireland.

Two useless shower of cnuts.
If you look at Arlene Foster's twitter feed it is in large part« look how British we are » but it is
a very Enid Blyton mix of royal family and wars.

Happy birthday to HRH the prince of Wales
On this day the IRA murdered
Parliament buildings Stormont lit poppy red
Enniskillen tonight #proud #Armistice
A very informative night at Ardess Parish Centre hearing about Private William McBride who lived in Irvinestown
Portadown Re-Dedication of the war memorial .
On this day the IRA murdered
Watch The Queen's speech at last night's State Banquet
At 8pm watch The Duke and Duchess of Sussex welcome the British and Australian veterans
A five-year-old boy couldn't resist touching Prince Harry's beard during a school visit in Australia
A fanfare, performed by State Trumpeters of the Household Cavalry, is played, followed by the National Anthem. #RoyalWedding

It's basically frozen in time. It's backward compared to identity in Scotland and Wales.
They don't know who they are. They need to distance themselves from the Tory party and they can't because there is nothing else for them to hold onto.



The DUP take great delight in the fact that Norn Iron is reliant on a hand out from Westminster, they wear it like a badge of honour and if you look at what was going on in the RHI debacle it was fine to suck as much money out of Westminster and issues only arose when they found out that wasn't the case.
It has always been so.

The problems with Brexit is that a very large international light has been shone on this little place because of it and May's hung parliament and the DUP are now being seen to a wider audience what we always knew about them, arrogant, right wing, religious nut jobs incapable of compromise even when the economics are in their favour.

I wonder if Rees Mogg, Boris and co were offered a hard brexit on the proviso that the major sticking point, the British border in Ireland would no longer be an issue in a 32 county Ireland, would they take it!!!

At the same time May is gone, this deal is gone and won't see the light of day in Parliament and it's back to a GE, hard brexit or no Brexit IMO.


Farrandeelin

"That's another huge loss to the wee six"

That's what I thought myself...never heard of the fellow. :-\
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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2018, 09:14:39 AM
"That's another huge loss to the wee six"

That's what I thought myself...never heard of the fellow. :-\

Was an easy way out from the worst job in politics
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

Quote from: Farrandeelin on November 15, 2018, 08:26:30 AM
Shaleish Vara Northern Ireland minister has resigned.

Not joking here, but who?!

Jim_Murphy_74

Quote from: seafoid on November 15, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
They don't know who they are. They need to distance themselves from the Tory party and they can't because there is nothing else for them to hold onto.

They are being very careful to personalize the Brexit draft to Theresa May. 
They can't have the narrative that the Tories fcuked them over because they would have to distance themselves then.

Also once Brexit is dealt with, the will be payback from the scrutiny the have gotten in the UK.  They will need Stormont back because unlike previous direct rule, there is not conflict to distract legislators.   There are too many British politicians aware of social policy divergence in Northern Ireland now.  Unless they get back into the balance of power I would forsee SSM, abortion and language reform.  Last vestiges of Sunday closures will be ended etc.

Ironically a dose of "britishness" could make the North more in tune with Nationalist outlook than DUP outlook.

All speculation of course but it's hard to see anything but that the DUP played badly during the moment in the sun.

/Jim.


armaghniac

The Brexit minister Raab has resigned.
It is rather alarming that he is using NI as an excuse, rather than his own stupidity.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

seafoid

Quote from: armaghniac on November 15, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
The Brexit minister Raab has resigned.
It is rather alarming that he is using NI as an excuse, rather than his own stupidity.

The Tory party is going to tear itself apart

"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Jim_Murphy_74

Quote from: armaghniac on November 15, 2018, 09:52:07 AM
The Brexit minister Raab has resigned.
It is rather alarming that he is using NI as an excuse, rather than his own stupidity.

I think it's more of an issue that Labour have said this doesn't meet the 6 tests.  May has proven a wily political operator but it's hard to see her picking up the numbers now.

She can't do it with a few Labour strays, she needed them as a party to support or even abstain.

/Jim.

seafoid

If it was soccer everyone would know that Brexit United were shite at the back and had no composure up front.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

HiMucker

#5008
Quote from: Jim_Murphy_74 on November 15, 2018, 09:49:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on November 15, 2018, 08:50:26 AM
They don't know who they are. They need to distance themselves from the Tory party and they can't because there is nothing else for them to hold onto.

They are being very careful to personalize the Brexit draft to Theresa May. 
They can't have the narrative that the Tories fcuked them over because they would have to distance themselves then.

Also once Brexit is dealt with, the will be payback from the scrutiny the have gotten in the UK.  They will need Stormont back because unlike previous direct rule, there is not conflict to distract legislators.   There are too many British politicians aware of social policy divergence in Northern Ireland now.  Unless they get back into the balance of power I would forsee SSM, abortion and language reform.  Last vestiges of Sunday closures will be ended etc.

Ironically a dose of "britishness" could make the North more in tune with Nationalist outlook than DUP outlook.

All speculation of course but it's hard to see anything but that the DUP played badly during the moment in the sun.

/Jim.
Agree with all that. Re. the bit in bold. Thats why I think the Sinners wont go back to Stormont no matter what now. Even the MPs opposed to May will know the mess the DUP caused, they are toxic and there will be hell to pay for it.

charlieTully

Quote from: Therealdonald on November 14, 2018, 10:44:19 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on November 14, 2018, 10:12:55 PM
I think this charade has clearly shown that all the DUP care about is waving a union flag and calling themselves British, and to hell with the economy, jobs, livelihoods etc in the north. And that SF don't care diddly squat about anything either, other than trying to get a United Ireland.

Two useless shower of cnuts.

This is completely laughable.SF are saying diddly squat because their opinion doesn't matter. The DUP with 10MP's don't make a button of difference. Jesus christ the amount of bs spouted on here is ridiculous.

Did you not know, everything that has ever went wrong anywhere is the fault of SF, come on man.