Man Utd Thread:

[GetOverTheBar]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

[johnnycool]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

[GetOverTheBar]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Jesus oh, how ridiculous am i judging a football team on winning football games / tournaments.

[johnnycool]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Jesus oh, how ridiculous am i judging a football team on winning football games / tournaments.

More the fool you.

You think the Glazers or Woodward give a shite about football?

It's only when poor performance affects the income will the do anything about it and that'll probably be to bring in another "partner" to bolster the coffers;

https://www.manutd.com/en/partners/global

[Cunny Funt]

Would you boys not think Pogba is worth building the team around? Might take a season or two, but with his control in tight spaces, passing ability and goal scoring, there is definitely a talented top player in there. Fair enough, his attitude needs work and he has to be managed, but so did Cantona when Fergie brought him in.

He's not or never will be the type of player you build a team around. He's not leader like Cantona was who got others around him playing better. Pogba needs players around him performing well to get the best out of him and he's probably the last player you want on a team when they are playing poorly.

I'm not sure about that as there is evidence that he has been a vital component of successful teams in the past. If you stick with him he does need to be accomodated moreso than most, there's no doubt about that.

He played along side top quality players some of which were pure leaders. That allows Pogba to then excel in successful teams. If United are to keep him the new players brought in will have to leaders and ones you build the team around.

When I say "build the team around", that means bringing in lads who do all the donkey work and ball winning and giving him just the responsibility to be an attacking creative force i.e. you construct the team specifically to allow him to excel in his preferred role and not to have to worry about the other stuff.

Is Kanté an option of someone who'd do the donkey work?

He's a wee bit more than that. Unfortunately there aren't many like him about.

He's not Kante quality but Looks like one of those players that does the donkey work and shows a bit of leadership on the field (Herrera) will likely be sold for free this summer. He isn't worth the wages he's rumored to be asking for but Ed Woodward is to blame for ruining the wage structure with that Sanchez signing and a big part of DeGea's poor form this season has been contract issues and if he was in the from of the previous seasons United would likely have 4th spot already locked in.

Anyway Ole confirmed today that Pogba is staying and if he does 2 of 3 top quality players will have to be signed this summer to play along side him to get the best out of them but i have my doubts that will happen.

[seafoid]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Compare those values to 2007
Soccer is a huge bubble

[johnnycool]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Compare those values to 2007
Soccer is a huge bubble

With the online streaming monsters like Amazon and Youtube wanting a piece of this action its hard to see this bubble bursting just yet.

[seafoid]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Compare those values to 2007
Soccer is a huge bubble

With the online streaming monsters like Amazon and Youtube wanting a piece of this action its hard to see this bubble bursting just yet.

Valuations soared after Quantitative Easing slashed interest rates and created loads of money.


You can see the effect here if you go back a bit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_the_most_valuable_football_clubs

Lower interest rates boost asset values. Same with Irish bonds
But valuations depend on cash-flows and Man Utd fans don't get payrises any more
It is a Ponzi scheme. Same as Irish bonds.

An example from the past. Feargal Quinn RIP sold Superquinn for €450m in 2005.Musgrave bought the company from receivership 6 years later for €229m.

[Boycey]

Kanté is brilliant he's the type of player that could play on any team and still be brilliant. He's been played out of position by Chelsea this year but still puts in a shift and you never ever hear any shite from him and by all accounts a great team mate Chelsea would be mad to let him go!

Can you imagine what they would charge Ed Woodward and him only fresh off a new contract there during the season and a possible transfer ban?

Not happening. Although yes, Kante would be an astounding signing.

You're either the biggest club in the world or you're not.

Glazers need to splash serious cash on tried and tested talent.

Can't be a real comment.

Real Madrid fresh off 3 UCL back to back, thats the same as Man Utd in their history.

Look it sounds good to say it, but Manchester United are not the biggest club in the world. It's time to embrace realism - these type of throw away comments are like 'it'll be ok'.

who mentioned anything about winning football matches?

From Forbes;

Rank, Team, Value, 1-Year change (Sport)

1. Dallas Cowboys, $4.8 billion, 14% (NFL)

2. Manchester United, $4.123 billion, 12% (Soccer)

3. Real Madrid, $4.09 billion, 14% (Soccer)

4. Barcelona, $4.064 billion, 12% (Soccer)

5. New York Yankees, $4 billion, 8% (MLB)

Compare those values to 2007
Soccer is a huge bubble

With the online streaming monsters like Amazon and Youtube wanting a piece of this action its hard to see this bubble bursting just yet.

Valuations soared after Quantitative Easing slashed interest rates and created loads of money.


You can see the effect here if you go back a bit
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_the_most_valuable_football_clubs

Lower interest rates boost asset values. Same with Irish bonds
But valuations depend on cash-flows and Man Utd fans don't get payrises any more
It is a Ponzi scheme. Same as Irish bonds.

An example from the past. Feargal Quinn RIP sold Superquinn for €450m in 2005.Musgrave bought the company from receivership 6 years later for €229m.

What??

[Boycey]

A win today by 4 goals puts us into the top 4 

[Milltown Row2]

A win today by 4 goals puts us into the top 4 

Pays 50/1!

[GJL]

Herrera back in. Expect a better game from Pogba as Herrera gives him license to go forward more.

[Milltown Row2]

Herrera back in. Expect a better game from Pogba as Herrera gives him license to go forward more.

Will he be fit enough to stop Hazard?

Chelsea great price I f I'm being honest, they haven't been great away from home, but are playing better football than Utd

[Cunny Funt]

Last chance saloon for United this afternoon. Selection a bit odd again. Smalling,Dalot,Fred and Lingard not even on the bench today. Darmian out of the team after starting the Derby and Young back starting again. Can the three ex Chelsea players (Mata,Matic and lukaku) show any bit of quality today?

[Cunny Funt]

Good start rewarded with a goal. Former Chelsea player with the goal.