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Re: Money, Dublin and the GAA
« Reply #480 on: December 04, 2017, 01:04:22 PM »
I see the Leinster club SHC has gone like the Inter County SFC - a  procession for Dublin.

Split Caula in two, North and South Dalky. Are any team in Dublin allowed win or should they run it by the rest of the country first.

If they did it would be a first, not many decisions are decided outside the Pale. Grants, Super 8, Important Football games.

1. You apply for grants, anyone can apply, see non GAA list of clubs. Also party pump politics are at play here too. Show list of rejections.
2. Super 8 , Non Dubs in headquarters make those decisions, the administration are all about money.
3. Important football games, lets play the all Ireland in Castlebar every year to give you a chance.


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« Reply #481 on: December 04, 2017, 01:06:48 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

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« Reply #482 on: December 04, 2017, 01:22:14 PM »
I see the Leinster club SHC has gone like the Inter County SFC - a  procession for Dublin.

Split Caula in two, North and South Dalky. Are any team in Dublin allowed win or should they run it by the rest of the country first.

If they did it would be a first, not many decisions are decided outside the Pale. Grants, Super 8, Important Football games.

1. You apply for grants, anyone can apply, see non GAA list of clubs. Also party pump politics are at play here too. Show list of rejections.
2. Super 8 , Non Dubs in headquarters make those decisions, the administration are all about money.
3. Important football games, lets play the all Ireland in Castlebar every year to give you a chance.

Believe what you like. It's been about Croke Park and Dublin for the last 15 years!

Its kinda sad when Dublin have to play all their games at home. Can you imagine any other sport giving credit to a team and it's support with such an advantage of playing all their games at home! That coupled with all the MONEY! You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations.

Dublin will have it all to themselves pretty soon. Should be great fun being a Dublin supporter in Croke Park with little or no rival fans. With all your Money you could do what North Korea do and hire some fans.

Gaelic football at inter-county is a mess. People outside the Pale are walking away!

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« Reply #483 on: December 04, 2017, 02:21:00 PM »
Take off the tin hat for Christ sake!

There are issues but when you post nonsense like "You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations" you lose credibility.


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« Reply #484 on: December 04, 2017, 02:25:47 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

Serious question here, does the Dublin CB have someone helping clubs to fill out the grant forms in a way that they are more likely to meet the requirements for funding?

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« Reply #485 on: December 04, 2017, 02:51:14 PM »
I see the Leinster club SHC has gone like the Inter County SFC - a  procession for Dublin.

Split Caula in two, North and South Dalky. Are any team in Dublin allowed win or should they run it by the rest of the country first.

If they did it would be a first, not many decisions are decided outside the Pale. Grants, Super 8, Important Football games.

1. You apply for grants, anyone can apply, see non GAA list of clubs. Also party pump politics are at play here too. Show list of rejections.
2. Super 8 , Non Dubs in headquarters make those decisions, the administration are all about money.
3. Important football games, lets play the all Ireland in Castlebar every year to give you a chance.

Believe what you like. It's been about Croke Park and Dublin for the last 15 years!

Its kinda sad when Dublin have to play all their games at home. Can you imagine any other sport giving credit to a team and it's support with such an advantage of playing all their games at home! That coupled with all the MONEY! You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations.

Dublin will have it all to themselves pretty soon. Should be great fun being a Dublin supporter in Croke Park with little or no rival fans. With all your Money you could do what North Korea do and hire some fans.

Gaelic football at inter-county is a mess. People outside the Pale are walking away!

That's an embarrassing post, I feel sorry for you and maybe you should seek some help with your grievances. 

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« Reply #486 on: December 04, 2017, 03:30:48 PM »
I see the Leinster club SHC has gone like the Inter County SFC - a  procession for Dublin.

Split Caula in two, North and South Dalky. Are any team in Dublin allowed win or should they run it by the rest of the country first.

If they did it would be a first, not many decisions are decided outside the Pale. Grants, Super 8, Important Football games.

1. You apply for grants, anyone can apply, see non GAA list of clubs. Also party pump politics are at play here too. Show list of rejections.
2. Super 8 , Non Dubs in headquarters make those decisions, the administration are all about money.
3. Important football games, lets play the all Ireland in Castlebar every year to give you a chance.

Believe what you like. It's been about Croke Park and Dublin for the last 15 years!

Its kinda sad when Dublin have to play all their games at home. Can you imagine any other sport giving credit to a team and it's support with such an advantage of playing all their games at home! That coupled with all the MONEY! You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations.

Dublin will have it all to themselves pretty soon. Should be great fun being a Dublin supporter in Croke Park with little or no rival fans. With all your Money you could do what North Korea do and hire some fans.

Gaelic football at inter-county is a mess. People outside the Pale are walking away!

That's an embarrassing post, I feel sorry for you and maybe you should seek some help with your grievances.

 ;D ;D

So it's not ok for someone else to make wild allegations but it's ok for you to do it?

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« Reply #487 on: December 04, 2017, 04:44:25 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

Serious question here, does the Dublin CB have someone helping clubs to fill out the grant forms in a way that they are more likely to meet the requirements for funding?

No there isnt DCB assistance  , but it would be a logical thing for all county boards to do wouldnt it

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« Reply #488 on: December 04, 2017, 04:49:18 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

Serious question here, does the Dublin CB have someone helping clubs to fill out the grant forms in a way that they are more likely to meet the requirements for funding?

No there isnt DCB assistance  , but it would be a logical thing for all county boards to do wouldnt it

It would, but I wonder would most of the other 31 CBs lack the funds to acquire the necessary expertise.

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« Reply #489 on: December 04, 2017, 05:07:04 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

Serious question here, does the Dublin CB have someone helping clubs to fill out the grant forms in a way that they are more likely to meet the requirements for funding?

No there isnt DCB assistance  , but it would be a logical thing for all county boards to do wouldnt it

It would, but I wonder would most of the other 31 CBs lack the funds to acquire the necessary expertise.
Its nothing to do with funding. DCB don't go round hiring people to give lessons to the clubs on how to fill out grant applications. Dublin clubs get turned down too for incorrect forms.

It's not rocket science, but you do need somebody who's able to fill out lengthy forms. Would it be easier to find such members in urban rather than rural clubs?

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« Reply #490 on: December 04, 2017, 05:09:18 PM »
Take off the tin hat for Christ sake!

There are issues but when you post nonsense like "You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations" you lose credibility.

FTB lost all faith in the media when they made Keegan pull down Connolly in an All Ireland final replay! He'll never forgive them.

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« Reply #491 on: December 04, 2017, 05:37:39 PM »
Here’s a piece from Balls.ie dealing with the same subject. Under the heading, Sporting Grants Breakdown Show Massive Weighting Towards Dublin GAA Clubs,it goes into more detail than Foley does.

Key paragraph from that link:

There's no doubt that on an individual basis, the grants to Dublin clubs may well be justified, and it's unlikely there is an actual bias, and it's more down to better lobbying and organisation, and better proposals. There is also the issue of capital expenditure being significantly more expensive in Dublin.

Each club made their own submission. The county the club happened to be in was totally irrelevant.

What is probably shows is that Dublin clubs continue to grow because population continues to increase, so there is more need for improved facilities.

Serious question here, does the Dublin CB have someone helping clubs to fill out the grant forms in a way that they are more likely to meet the requirements for funding?

No there isnt DCB assistance  , but it would be a logical thing for all county boards to do wouldnt it

It would, but I wonder would most of the other 31 CBs lack the funds to acquire the necessary expertise.
Its nothing to do with funding. DCB don't go round hiring people to give lessons to the clubs on how to fill out grant applications. Dublin clubs get turned down too for incorrect forms.

It's not rocket science, but you do need somebody who's able to fill out lengthy forms. Would it be easier to find such members in urban rather than rural clubs?

To translate your Dublinaese, would it be easier for clubs larger than many counties to produce a professional, legally impeccable business plan and get it passed by a HQ handing grant money to Dublin at a rate per registered member that is many multiples that of which is given to other counties?

Yes.

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« Reply #492 on: December 04, 2017, 07:11:27 PM »
Take off the tin hat for Christ sake!

There are issues but when you post nonsense like "You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations" you lose credibility.

Where are all the National Newspapers and Radio stations located? Where are the biggest sales? Jez, Zulu, you talk about tin hats! You are the one who seriously needs glasses! You are stuck in a romantic version of the GAA that died about 7 or 8 years ago. I suppose it's hard for me to expect a lad living in England to understand when lads even in my own county can't see the wood from the trees. But hey you believe what you want to believe.

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« Reply #493 on: December 04, 2017, 07:16:10 PM »
Take off the tin hat for Christ sake!

There are issues but when you post nonsense like "You own the MEDIA so they won't say anything because they are afraid you won't buy your papers and they won't listen to your Radio stations" you lose credibility.

FTB lost all faith in the media when they made Keegan pull down Connolly in an All Ireland final replay! He'll never forgive them.

Yes, your motley crew got busily to work that week in the media. I say there was up to 10 former Dublin Players who singled out Keegan for special attention. A well orchestrated blackening of a player! Thanks for highlighting that!

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« Reply #494 on: December 05, 2017, 08:13:12 AM »
Think this guy is a WUM, ban him.