Things that make you go What the F**k?

[Snapchap]

How many more times do the family have to plead for people to stop speculating & spreading rumours online before people will start to respect their wishes?

[brokencrossbar1]

I'd love nothing more for this family to get closure on this horrible tragic event.

But a gang of lads that were beating people up, stealing phones, bikes previously seems a bit far fetched in covering up their actions?

Why would cops do that? I'm struggling to see the cover up.

I can envisage a lad being chased and finding somewhere to hide (storm drain) but I can also see troubled teenagers dealing with issues and unfortunately taking the wrong option.

I really hope there was no foul play as the can of worms that opens up would be hard to take.

BC1, has there been other evidence left out of the media?

I don't know personally. I know questions are being asked. There was a young lad attacked the previous week on the limestone road by a gang from the Tigers Bay Area and this wasn't the first of these attacks. Maybe the family are just looking closure so I hope there is nothing untoward and that it was simply a series of unusual events. All I know is that questions have been raised about the quality of the police investigation

The Coroner would suggest otherwise.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53519005

No the Coroner is saying to stop speculation. There are questions being asked about the police investigation and it is still ongoing. There have been and continue to be questions asked.

[Main Street]

How could a boy in Noah's circumstance end up in a storm drain?

[haranguerer]

What if the post mortem revealed that he died of drowning and his time of death was dated the Sunday he went missing?

So if there was a cover up would the pathologist be involved also?

Maybe there is a level of incompetence going on and people, family included, think that they deserve better?

All I'm saying is i don't know what happened but I refuse to jump on the Social bandwagon, if a report shows that the cops were hiding something or helped in covering up something then yes they should be pulled.

You can only really go on witnesses reports, they have constantly been on radio this week been asking for dashcam coverage or other footage that the public may have,!

I'm sure 100% they have checked all business cameras in the area also. Christ they even checked cameras for a stolen wheelie bin of ours in Waring street!

This is a tragic case of either misadventure or suicide, I hope to god it isnt a murder case.

I wouldn't be one for jumping on the social bandwagon either. The police aren't looking good in this.

What have the police done wrong?

Coming up with hare-brained theory and then releasing their own 'facts' to suit - head injury so stripped off (ludicrous stuff), said he was cycling naked, but not showing any evidence of this (family had requested), telling family leaflet drop done when not, not saying he had a good reason to be heading toward cavehill, i.e. it was initially thought of by general public as more likely to be suicide than missing person which definitely affected public response, or that he was off his head with the cycling naked stuff - there is a at best a staggering level of dangerous incompetence here. There's far more operational stuff too - like having to be prompted to ask for the items they said were still missing, the length of time it took for them to organise any kind of response - not to mention the seeming ambivalence toward it now. It stinks to high heaven - and even if they havent done anything wrong, there needs to be a full investigation into this to restore any confidence in them.

[Milltown Row2]

Unfortunately this lad was probably dead long before he became a missing person, there are no reports that he was attacked and he was never seen leaving that place he entered on the Shore rd, if going to Cavehill why not head up past his school on the Antrim rd?

The community Search and rescue team are better at this stuff than police, they'd have coordinated search and even they took a week to get him!

Whatever reports the peelers put out would not have changed the outcome. As incompetent as some of it seems

Young males in Northern Ireland go missing all the time, some are found straight away others unfortunately go to remote places and take their own lives, that's a sad fact.

This particular case I think is still being reviewed and findings will be given early next year, plenty time to look at it then, dragging this through social media keeps that wound open for the family.

[Hound]

Hong Kongers to build a city somewhere, possibly Ireland 

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/07/mark-lutter-on-hong-kong-in-ireland.html

Thanks for sharing the article about the Victoria Harbor Group. We, me (Mark Lutter) being Chief Strategy Officer, are in discussions with Ireland. However, it is important to note that the information mentioned is dated. As any early stage company, our ideas have rapidly evolved. While the term we are using is 'International Charter City', we are not pursuing full scale autonomy. Our priority is to acquire land and build political support in the host country to build a city for the Hong Kong people with the target population being 50% HKers and 50% citizens of the host country. Of course, we wouldn't say no to tax and regulatory relief, but that is not our focus.

Our key assumptions are as follows

1. The next 10-15 years will see 1m to 2m Hong Kongers migrate, the first mass migration of high skilled labor in the last 40 or so years.
2. There is value from coordinating this migration, keeping network effects, ensuring housing supply, etc
3. We see this as an opportunity to build the city of the future, cutting edge urban design, welcoming of new technology, self-driving cars, drone delivery, etc.
4. We are in discussions with several countries, not just Ireland, which we will make public when possible. We prefer English speaking countries with common law traditions, but are open to considering others.
5. Our goal is to acquire 50,000+ acres within 2 hours of an airport to build a new city for several hundred thousand residents. Obviously this depends on the political support in the host country. Smaller countries like Ireland would have smaller developments.
6. Political support from the host country is crucial. We are not asking for independence or autonomy. Of course, we wouldn't say no to tax and regulatory relief, but that is less important than land availability and domestic buy in.
7. The city will fit in the national plans of the host country. The Hong Kongers excel in finance and manufacturing, as well as education and healthcare. While little manufacturing is done in Hong Kong, Hong Kongers own many factories in the Guangdong province. Any country looking to revive their manufacturing base could do so by attracting a bunch of talented HKers. Additionally, a good location could become a top 10 global financial center in 10 years by attracting HK financial talent.
8. We believe this is a great opportunity for any country which wants to attract a talented, hardworking, entrepreneurial population.
9. I have seen a lot of charter city projects and this is the first one I wanted to become part of the leadership team of.

For more information please see my podcast with Ivan Ko, the CEO. Our website will be launching soon.

[Jeepers Creepers]

Hong Kongers to build a city somewhere, possibly Ireland 

https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2020/07/mark-lutter-on-hong-kong-in-ireland.html

Thanks for sharing the article about the Victoria Harbor Group. We, me (Mark Lutter) being Chief Strategy Officer, are in discussions with Ireland. However, it is important to note that the information mentioned is dated. As any early stage company, our ideas have rapidly evolved. While the term we are using is 'International Charter City', we are not pursuing full scale autonomy. Our priority is to acquire land and build political support in the host country to build a city for the Hong Kong people with the target population being 50% HKers and 50% citizens of the host country. Of course, we wouldn't say no to tax and regulatory relief, but that is not our focus.

Our key assumptions are as follows

1. The next 10-15 years will see 1m to 2m Hong Kongers migrate, the first mass migration of high skilled labor in the last 40 or so years.
2. There is value from coordinating this migration, keeping network effects, ensuring housing supply, etc
3. We see this as an opportunity to build the city of the future, cutting edge urban design, welcoming of new technology, self-driving cars, drone delivery, etc.
4. We are in discussions with several countries, not just Ireland, which we will make public when possible. We prefer English speaking countries with common law traditions, but are open to considering others.
5. Our goal is to acquire 50,000+ acres within 2 hours of an airport to build a new city for several hundred thousand residents. Obviously this depends on the political support in the host country. Smaller countries like Ireland would have smaller developments.
6. Political support from the host country is crucial. We are not asking for independence or autonomy. Of course, we wouldn't say no to tax and regulatory relief, but that is less important than land availability and domestic buy in.
7. The city will fit in the national plans of the host country. The Hong Kongers excel in finance and manufacturing, as well as education and healthcare. While little manufacturing is done in Hong Kong, Hong Kongers own many factories in the Guangdong province. Any country looking to revive their manufacturing base could do so by attracting a bunch of talented HKers. Additionally, a good location could become a top 10 global financial center in 10 years by attracting HK financial talent.
8. We believe this is a great opportunity for any country which wants to attract a talented, hardworking, entrepreneurial population.
9. I have seen a lot of charter city projects and this is the first one I wanted to become part of the leadership team of.

For more information please see my podcast with Ivan Ko, the CEO. Our website will be launching soon.

Don't tell Gemma O'Doherty!

[RedHand88]

Saw this on conspiracy twitter and thought it cant be real.

[BennyCake]

That's all we need. More Planters! 

[Baile Brigín 2]

Saw this on conspiracy twitter and thought it cant be real.

Its not. The conversations happened 5 years ago around the time they were talking abour building a free trade zone in Offaly

[imtommygunn]

The sequence of events that led to that cliftonville goal

[Tony Baloney]

The sequence of events that led to that cliftonville goal

It's actually no different watching these matches with empty stands.

[armaghniac]

The sequence of events that led to that cliftonville goal

It's actually no different watching these matches with empty stands.

Not the Irish League anyway.

[Helix.]

Saw this on conspiracy twitter and thought it cant be real.

Its not. The conversations happened 5 years ago around the time they were talking abour building a free trade zone in Offaly

Looked in Athlone a couple of years back.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/planning-authority-to-decide-on-grandiose-chinese-trading-hub-1.511362%3fmode=amp

Almost as mad as the casino in Two Mile Borris, the Irish Las Vegas 

[imtommygunn]

Anyone see the skinner bradley photo? He's sneaking out the side of his shorts to take a piss during a team talk in windsor. Lol.