NFL Division 1 2024

[Blowitupref]

Glen got to an AI final last year too, Derry got to a league final, won a tough ulster champ, were still playing in July and lost the AI semi because they missed too many chances. It's more likely than not Derry won't win the AI, and there will be a queue of people lining up to blame their league form but it will have nothing to do with it. Players are capable of playing once a week in 3 week blocks. Sports science is there to manage training loads.

Not sure I'd blame it on Glens club runs or a league final (Div 2 is less intense than Div 1 football) but it was clear Derry had a big dip in their 2nd half performance against Kerry in the All Ireland semi final. Now it might simply have been that they used up a lot of their energy with a impressive 1st half leading by three and scoring 1-11. 2nd half scores wasn't coming as easy and were making mistakes at both ends of the field that they weren't first half something that happens with tired minds and bodies.

[imtommygunn]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

[seafoid]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

[Wildweasel74]

Away to Galway this weekend but can't see a win, our record against Galway is terrible, even when they had a bad team.Derry focus on winning their last 2 home games. Dublin may be tough if they need the points.

[yellowcard]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

You've picked out a sample size of one year with Mayo 2023. Kerry won both League and Championship in 2022. The Dubs won the League most seasons they won Sam during their decade of dominance and you only had to listen to their players when interviewed to see how meticulously they prepared for every match. You can't turn form on and off like a tap.

Derry might not win the All Ireland (and I'd have them a bit behind Dublin and Kerry anyway) but they are simply trying to win the match ahead of them which is all you can do. 

[Blowitupref]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

Saying that like Galway don't have a number of first choice players out injured? No option but to try out other players then.

[JoG2]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

This is exactly what Derry are doing. Why haven't the stars played in the first 3 league games? Walsh played the 1st game, I assumed they are injured rather than a choice?

Away to Galway this weekend but can't see a win, our record against Galway is terrible, even when they had a bad team.Derry focus on winning their last 2 home games. Dublin may be tough if they need the points.

What has our record against Galway got to do with this present Derry team in form and a Galway team missing key players and not in great form?

[imtommygunn]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

They have a load of players unavailable. That's not a lesson that's a forced hand.

[Derryman forever]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

You are superimposing a narrative of convenience, upon circumstances of inconvenience.

[galwayman]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

What lesson have Galway learned? How have they shown to have learned from it?

They have been trying out other players in order to broaden the panel.The stars have not played in the first 3 matches.They aren't interested in the league final. I think that is significant. the all Ireland now starts in January.  It's more like the EPL now. Arsenal had basically the same team last season and they were gassed  with a month or so to go.

Let's be clear about this - the "stars" as you call them haven't played because they have been injured. Comer, McDaid and Silke have all been unavailable through injury for every game so far. Kelly was unavailable until last weekend and they are easing him back.
Shane played the first league game and hasn't played since purely because he is injured.
Not playing them is not part of some master plan it's circumstance.
They'd be trying out one or two anyway for sure but that's about it

[imtommygunn]

Exactly. Nonsense to suggest it's due to a lesson learned.

[Manning18]

Away to Galway this weekend but can't see a win, our record against Galway is terrible, even when they had a bad team.Derry focus on winning their last 2 home games. Dublin may be tough if they need the points.

With Tierney and Conroy now out there's a fair argument to say that Galway's 7 most important players all won't be starting. 6 out injured for god knows how long and 1 (Kelly) will be on the bench. Ive never really known a situation like it

I wouldn't give them a prayer v Derry this weekend. Boyles went up 4/6 Derry which was an uber c**k up. Now 2/5 which is a little more correct but still a couple of notches too big. The only levelling factor I could envisage is a huge wind in salthill (not uncommon) and Derry not getting to grips with it

[onefineday]

Mayo 2023 are another warning sign for Derry.So are Galway 2023.  Journalists will always focus on the now and both teams got loads of attention in the run up to May, just like Derry now , but neither county was there at the business end.  Both counties have learnt their lesson .
Fans love winning but the All Ireland now is about pace, patience and avoiding injuries. Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year.

Nobody was talking about Dublin this time last year??
Mannion and McCaffrey back, second favs for the all Ireland at 3/1.....

[seafoid]

The system favours the old firm. Kerry and Dublin. The counties with the deepest panels and the most all Irelands. It's not just the Leinster championship.

The all ireland is already on . It would be lovely if a team like Derry could win but the chances of  the equivalents of Hibernian or Hearts winning the All Ireland is much lower under the new system. More games in less time means more injuries,  more fatigue and more exposure for analysis by extensive video teams. It all exposes the inequality at the heart of the county system. 

[Rossfan]

What do you propose? Amalgamations?

Anyway 1 relegation space will likely be booked after the game in the Hyde on Sunday.
It certainly will if we lose with Mayowestros, Kerry and Derry to come.
Monaghan with Tyrone and Galway to come could still survive.
I'm not hopeful as we haven't impressed to date, have no midfield and the hard working defensive style of last year seems to be gone as we seem to have reverted to the McStay/McHale style of non marking loose defending.