The Horse racing thread

[Shrek]

Its odds on now but i have had a few texts for phycho in the next at clonmel

Nice call O'Hare

[boojangles]

No 7 last race Wolves EW.

[Denn Forever]

Don't know if this will make any difference.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/horse_racing/8562293.stm

Jockey Sam Thomas is a doubt for Cheltenham after being airlifted to hospital after a fall on the gallops at Paul Nicholls' Somerset yard.

The 25-year-old has undergone tests for neck and back injuries at the Royal United Hospital in Bath.

Thomas rode Denman to Gold Cup success in 2008 but lost the ride this season after becoming stable jockey at Tom George's yard.

[Minder]

For any of you that have BBC4, Storyville -Race Horses, follows three promising racehorses over a year.

[boojangles]

Meath All Star is running 345 Wincanton today. I remember DH mentioning this horse for Cheltenham, you would think he should be up to winning ths although he is up against a Nicholls/Ruby 2nd favourite.

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Cheltenham      Paddy Power   Evan Williams   Don McClean   Barry Geraghty   Davy Russell   Colm Murphy   Wille Mullins
2010      Turf Accountant   Trainer   Journalist   Jockey   Jockey   Trainer   Trainer
                        
Supreme Novices Hurdle   Selection   Dunguib   Oscar Whiskey   Get me out of here   Dunguib   Dunguib   Dunguib   Dunguib
   Each Way         Blackstairmountain   Oscar Whiskey         Blackstairmountain
   Other         Flat out            Flat Out
                        
Neptune Investment Hurdle   Selection   Rite of Passage   Quantitativeeasing   Rite of Passage   Finnians Rainbow   Peddlars Cross   Rite of Passage   Quel Esprit
   Each Way         Quel Esprit   Peddlars Cross         
   Other      Rite of Passage   Fionnegas      Rite of Passage      
                        
Triumph Hurdle   Selection   Notus de la tour         Soldatino   Super Kenny   Super Kenny   
   Each Way      Barazan               
   Other                     Carlito Brigante
                        
Champion Hurdle   Selection   Go Native   Go Native   Go Native   Punjabi or Zaynar   Solwit   Go Native   Go Native
   Each Way   Kyber Kim   Zaynar or Medemit   Punjabi      Sublimity      Sublimity
   Other      Kyber Kim      Go Native   Celestial Halo      
                        
World Hurdle   Selection   Big Bucks   Karabak   Big Bucks   Big Bucks   Big Bucks   Big Bucks   
   Each Way      War of Attrition   Tidal Bay   Sentry Duty   War of Attrition   War of Attrition   
   Other      Katchit            Sentry Duty   
                        
Arkle   Selection   Captain Cee Bee   Somersby   Captain Cee Bee   Riverside Theatre   Captain Cee Bee   Captain Cee Bee   
   Each Way   Woolcombe Folly                  Shakervilz
   Other                     
                        
RSA Chase   Selection      Punchestowns   Weapons Amnesty   Punchestowns   Weapons Amnesty   Punchestowns   
   Each Way   Weird Al   Bensalem   Weird Al   Uimhearaceathair      Weapons Amnesty   Uimhearaceathair
   Other                     
                        
Queen Mother Chase   Selection   Master Minded   Kalahari King   Big Zeb   Master Minded      Big Zeb   Master Minded
   Each Way      Big Zeb   Forpaddytheplasterer   Big Zeb         Gold and Silver
   Other                  Master Minded   
                        
Gold Cup   Selection   Imperial Commander   Kauto Star   Imperial Commander      Denman   Kauto Star   
   Each Way         Cooldine      Tricky Trickster   Cooldine   Cooldine
   Other         Calgary Bay         Denman   
                        
                        
                        
                        
      Paddy Power   Evan Williams   Don McClean   Barry Geraghty   Davy Russell   Colm Murphy   Wille Mullins
      Turf Accountant   Trainer   Journalist   Jockey   Jockey   Trainer   Trainer
                        
Champion Bumper   Selection   Drumbaloo   Shot from the Hip   Elegant Concorde      Shot from the Hip   Elegant Concorde   
   Each Way         Drumbaloo      Drumbaloo   Shot from the Hip   
   Other      Any Irish trained   Shot from the Hip      Elegant Concorde      
                        
Ryanair Chase   Selection                     
   Each Way                     Scotsirish
   Other                     
                        
Mares Hurdle   Selection                     Quevega
   Each Way                     
   Other                     
                        
Albert Bartlett Hurdle   Selection                     Enterprise Park
   Each Way                     Shinrock Paddy
   Other                     
                        
Horses to Avoid            Alaivan   Rite of Passage   Pittoni      Jy Vole
            (Triumph Hurdle)   (Neptune Hurdle)   (Triumph Hurdle)      (Ryanair Chase)
            Long Runs   Long Runs   Sizing Europe      Cousin Vinny
            (RSA Chase)   (RSA Chase)   and Somersby      (World Hurdle)
                  (Arkle)      Mourad
                  Long Runs      (World Hurdle)
                  (RSA Chase)      Any 4 y-o in Bumper
                  Tartan Times      
                  (Bumper)      
                  Twist Magic      
                  (QM Chase)      
                        
                        
NAPS      Drumbaloo   Punchestowns and   Imperial Commander   Finnians Rainbow   Peddlars Cross   Shinrock Paddy   Enterprise Park
      (Bumper)   Long run in a forcast   e/w (Gold Cup)   (Neptune Hurdle)   (Neptune Hurdle)   (Albert Bartlett)   (Albert Bartlett)
         (RSA Chase)               Quel Esprit
         Barizan e/w               (Neptune Hurdle)
         (Triumph Hurdle)               Shakervilz
                        (Arkle)
                        Scotsirish
                        (Ryanair Chase)
                        All E/W

[illdecide]

Lads that spread sheet didn't come out to well, if any of you want it emailed send me a pm and i'll forward onto ya

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BJG    26 Feb 10:35


TD_Gunner 26 Feb 09:29
Exeter Preview Evening Notes

Panel were Paul Nicholls, Farry Hindlay, Andrew King, David Pipe, Philip Hobbs and Paddy Power. (Nick Williams also in the crowd and spoke about his horses)

Supreme Novices
PFN – Dunguib hard to beat, Pepe Simo e/w chance on good ground.
HF – Thinks Dunguib is a cert and is basically lumping on.
Pipe – Dunguib hard to beat, thinks GMOOH and his horse Dan Breen could be good e/w chances.

Arkle Chase
PN – Really sweet on Woolcombe Folly if good ground, can't have Somersby, said he beat a horse of his by 1 1.2 lengths that he wouldn't even consider for this. Tataniano needs good ground, could wait for Aintree.
HF – Thinks Long Run could/should go for this and would win.

Champion Hurdle
PN – Really happy with Celestial Halo prep (surprisingly quite bullish), thinks Khyber Kim is a BIG danger.
HF – Wants Dunguib to go for this and would back him. Very negative about Punjabi, can't have it at all and thinks last year's form is crap.

Neptune Investments Hurdle
Paddy P – Said Weld is very sweet on Rite Of Passage.
HF – Very negative about Reve De Sivola, but likes Finians Rainbow
Nick Williams – Said RDS has a great chance of placing, (big e/w chance), but think everything has to go his way to win and needs to jump better.
PN – Ghizao e/w

Champion Chase
PN – Thinks Twist Magic is Master Mindeds biggest danger. He can't have Kalahari King after he was thrashed by TM at Sandown.
HF – Ruby told him on Saturday after he schooled him that only a fall could stop Master Minded – think he's a cert.
Pipe – Thinks Master Minded wins easily. Happy to let Well Chief run

RSA Chase
PN – Probably no runners unless The Nightingale wins easily on Saturday, thinks Long Run is a machine, but jock a slight worry. AP McCoy schooled Punchestowns and told Nicholls after the Sandown race that Punchestowns is a 2m4f horse, Nicholls agrees and worries about Punchestowns staying well.
Hobbs – Thinks its between the two Henderson runners, mainly Long Run.
HF – Tried to buy Long Run, but as part of deal had to stay and run in France for a while, so fell through, but he thinks LR is the real deal and will win the Gold Cup in two years time. Basically think he's a certainty. Jock is a worry though. Thinks Bensalem should have beaten Diamond Harry and would like him for this.
N Williams - Feltham performance best novice chase performance he has ever seen in 30 years of racing. Really negative about Diamond Harry imo, thinks Bensalem should have beaten him and will need to jump better in the RSA to have a chance.

Champion Bumper
Paddy P – Weld said - Smullen rides Hidden Universe and McNamara rides Elegant Concorde and is sweet on both of them. They are both Melbourne Cup horses too! JP McManus allegedly offered connections of Drumbaloo 250 k for the horse and they turned it down, thinks 25/1 is a massive price. Also said that Mullins wasn't very confident about his chances
PN – Negative about Al Ferof, needs softish ground and tbh didn't sound too keen on running him, but owner wants to.

Ryanair Chase
PN – Very sweet on Poquelin on good ground, but must have good ground. Thinks Tranquil Sea is the one on soft ground.
Hobbs – Bit hesitant on Planet of Sounds chances after the fall.
HF – Can't have VPU at all, thinks he's gone at the game.

World Hurdle
PN – Big Buck's big chance (obviously).
HF – Thinks BB is a cert, but Tidal Bay is also a cert to finish second and should be second fav.
Pipe – Thinks Mr Thriller is too big and you can ignore last run, e/w chance, owner has backed him.
Hobbs – Fair Along could be gone

Albert Bartlett
Paddy P – Enterprise Park intended Mullins runner and 10/1 is too big. Also keen on Shinrock Paddy.
Pipe – Chartreux his runner
PN – Najaf intended runner

Triumph Hurdle
Pipe – Quite keen on Notus De La Tour (Also could be his Imperial Cup runner)
HF – Had very negative vibes from Ireland about Alaivan, said he was too light (whatever that means). Thinks Carlito is a certainty to be placed.
PN – Bullish about Advisor, quite similar to Celestial Halo.

Gold Cup
Pipe – Two horse race he reckons. Madison won't run.
HF – Thinks Kauto very hard to beat, but if someone can, Denman can. Denman could run in blinkers. Can't have Cooldine at all and will be laying him in the w/o big two market big time. Tricky Trickster without the big two.
PN – Same as what he's said in the paper, but very bullish that Tricky Trickster would come third. Don't rule out Imperial Commander.

National Hunt Novices Chase
PN – Massasoit runner, R Mahon rides
Pipe – Fairly bullish about The Sliotar

Pertemps
HF – Alfie Sherrin a probable runner, going straight there, fautless and very good form.
PN – Alfie very hard to train but very talented.
Pipe – Buena Vista on the same mark as last year's second.
Hobbs – Triggerman best chance

William Hill Chase
PN – Ruby rides The Tother One
Hobbs – Monkerhostin e/w chance
Pipe – The Package could run, or Our Vic who Danny Cook is sweet on.

Coral Cup
PN – Beshabar only runner
Pipe – Mamlook probable best chance
Hobbs – Pretty sweet on Wishfull Thinking for this, seemed to really rate this horse.

Jewson
Nicholls – Rivaliste, Five Dream and Take The Breeze his intended runners.

Martin Pipe Race
Pipe – Ashkazar and Mutual Friend probably best chances.

£200 Charity Bet
HF – Dunguib/Big Buck's/Master Minded treble
Nicholls – Poquelin
Andrew King – Mille Chief
Pipe – Long Run
Hobbs – Long Run

[armagho9]

Meath All Star is running 345 Wincanton today. I remember DH mentioning this horse for Cheltenham, you would think he should be up to winning ths although he is up against a Nicholls/Ruby 2nd favourite.

Apparently Meath all star might need a penalty to be guarenteed to get into Cheltenham next week.  If thats the case then the connections will probably have this race hand picked and be going all out for the win.

[Donnellys Hollow]

Meath All Star is running 345 Wincanton today. I remember DH mentioning this horse for Cheltenham, you would think he should be up to winning ths although he is up against a Nicholls/Ruby 2nd favourite.

Apparently Meath all star might need a penalty to be guarenteed to get into Cheltenham next week.  If thats the case then the connections will probably have this race hand picked and be going all out for the win.

That's correct. He won't make the cut for the Conditional Jockey's race unless he wins today and picks up a penalty. The Nicholls horse is a brother to Racing Demon but his bumper form is mediocre.

[Mac hinery]

Meath All Star is running 345 Wincanton today. I remember DH mentioning this horse for Cheltenham, you would think he should be up to winning ths although he is up against a Nicholls/Ruby 2nd favourite.

Think the Nicholls horse in NR now

[Paul Mc Graths Da]

A Wee treble for friday (all short price tips!)

Ayr  2.10   Nafaath
Leic 2.30   Picaroon
Win 3.45   Meath All Star

should pay 8/9to1

[armagho9]

A Wee treble for friday (all short price tips!)

Ayr  2.10   Nafaath
Leic 2.30   Picaroon
Win 3.45   Meath All Star

should pay 8/9to1

i did Murrell in last at wincanton

Lush life in last at Sandown

Meath Allstar.

Pays about 5-1.  Not great but they do look like bankers (famous last words)

[sammymaguire]

I dunno about Meath All Star lads, I'm gonna back the Rainbow Hunter in that one, much better e/w bet as it could take this one. WIZARD OF EDGE (3.10 Wincanton) Wizard of Edge is a six time winner over fences and could be a decent bet also. Far From Blonde will also get a wallop too from me in the opener

[T O Hare]

Diavoleria is out again at Ayr today Sammy