China Coronavirus

[Maroon Manc]

A good mate thought he would getting some time off work as he's a teacher but understood he'd have to chip in at School and they'd do a rota and was more than happy to help, unfortunately he's been stitched up by the head and the vast majority of people he works with and is now going to end up working through the Easter holidays. The head came round the other day and read out a list of over 50 health issues of which some were very minor, 75% of all staff said they one or more (head had clearly briefed her friends first) and were told to go home and not come back for 12 weeks. Only a couple of them have kids that need to be home schooled and many of them are taking advantage of a situation, he reckons 3 of them are all over facebook stating there here to help any parents that require advice.

[imtommygunn]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

Your two posts are completely at odds with each other...

[Milltown Row2]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

Your two posts are completely at odds with each other...

I'm not meeting anyone at work! It's essential medical services I provide. Best not to bother?

[OgraAnDun]

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1240767106955821059?s=21
Anybody in any doubt at this stage of the gravity of what we are facing just watch this. It is unbelievable what the UK are at. Ireland who have been very proactive still should go for a full lock down as quickly as possible. Same goes for the UK who are in a worse position and about a week behind the actions of Ireland. Its going to be a grim few weeks until we notice the benefits of the mass self isolation.

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1240767106955821059?s=21

What is shocking about the virus is how it overwhelms hospitals. Eg The UK estimates it has one eighth of the ICU capacity required.

1/30th in a "do nothing" scenario.

[JimStynes]

Schools are closed but now open to key workers (a list as long as your arm) so we will have most of the school in. Might as well just keep the schools open. Pointless.

[93-DY-SAM]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

People need to wise the f**k up and keep apart. Why is there not ads on the TV, these should be all over BBC, UTV, Sky etc like there is on RTE. The message is not getting through and all the time this ticking time bomb is running rampant. This needs a nanny state solution as much as that might not be palatable to a lot of people but until the UK government starts locking the place down and restricting movement this is only going one way. Unfortunately it'll take the first wave of deaths for people to cope on. At that stage a lot of the damage has been done.

Just on another note, other countries are deploying the army into areas to keep order and control. What the hell is going to happen here at that stage? That on it's own is a scary thought.

[Itchy]

The uk

https://twitter.com/OxfordDiplomat/status/1240776914693951496?s=19

[Milltown Row2]

Schools are closed but now open to key workers (a list as long as your arm) so we will have most of the school in. Might as well just keep the schools open. Pointless.

Yeah seen the list, it's nuts! Absolutely no point as the amount able to go has no benefits

[93-DY-SAM]

A good mate thought he would getting some time off work as he's a teacher but understood he'd have to chip in at School and they'd do a rota and was more than happy to help, unfortunately he's been stitched up by the head and the vast majority of people he works with and is now going to end up working through the Easter holidays. The head came round the other day and read out a list of over 50 health issues of which some were very minor, 75% of all staff said they one or more (head had clearly briefed her friends first) and were told to go home and not come back for 12 weeks. Only a couple of them have kids that need to be home schooled and many of them are taking advantage of a situation, he reckons 3 of them are all over facebook stating there here to help any parents that require advice.

I have full sympathy for teachers in this as I have several teachers in immediate family but that is taking the piss. Teachers need to step up and adopt new innovative ideas to remotely teach children. It doesn't mean children should be on a video call with them or in a virtual classroom 9-3 every day. But they should have some way to keep in regular touch with children. I understand that many children may not have access to tablets, computers, phone even the internet or a pencil and paper for that matter which adds further complexity. These are exceptional times and need exceptional measures. In my mind going home and doing absolutely nothing for 12 weeks is not an option.

[naka]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

milltown
tbf i normally take 70 minutes to get to work in the city
today it took me 44
m1 from sprucefield was 8 minutes to grosvenor so the place is quiet
in my own offices we have 15 in
reality we need cash collection to pay the wages next week.
tonights statement by the chancellor will explain if the collective is ever going to happen

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

[JoG2]

A good mate thought he would getting some time off work as he's a teacher but understood he'd have to chip in at School and they'd do a rota and was more than happy to help, unfortunately he's been stitched up by the head and the vast majority of people he works with and is now going to end up working through the Easter holidays. The head came round the other day and read out a list of over 50 health issues of which some were very minor, 75% of all staff said they one or more (head had clearly briefed her friends first) and were told to go home and not come back for 12 weeks. Only a couple of them have kids that need to be home schooled and many of them are taking advantage of a situation, he reckons 3 of them are all over facebook stating there here to help any parents that require advice.

I have full sympathy for teachers in this as I have several teachers in immediate family but that is taking the piss. Teachers need to step up and adopt new innovative ideas to remotely teach children. It doesn't mean children should be on a video call with them or in a virtual classroom 9-3 every day. But they should have some way to keep in regular touch with children. I understand that many children may not have access to tablets, computers, phone even the internet or a pencil and paper for that matter which adds further complexity. These are exceptional times and need exceptional measures. In my mind going home and doing absolutely nothing for 12 weeks is not an option.

Don't know were you're getting the 12 weeks at home doing nothing.
To the best of my knowledge with schools in Derry, from out own kids school and friends who are teaching at other schools. Kids have either been given school packs (new ones every 2 weeks) or their lessons are up on Google docs with teachers updating daily.
Some schools are being setup as hubs to facilitate kids who's parents are working on the front line.
Are other areas approaching this differently?

[johnnycool]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

milltown
tbf i normally take 70 minutes to get to work in the city
today it took me 44
m1 from sprucefield was 8 minutes to grosvenor so the place is quiet
in my own offices we have 15 in
reality we need cash collection to pay the wages next week.
tonights statement by the chancellor will explain if the collective is ever going to happen

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

Naka,
   As a business owner what's the feeling in relation to the loans on offer from the UK Government?

I thought it was a bit of a cop out TBH as it's not their money and will need paid back with interest no matter how low that is.

[Milltown Row2]

Once the job crisis hits in the next few days it will cause a huge ripple effect across families, once the pressures start hitting everyone  then the cracks will appear.

The panic will be crazy. The GB government all talk about timing and ensuring that they have a handle on it. No country will or has in Europe until they lock down properly, when will the south do that? If they do the North needs to follow.

The vast majority of people are now aware of what we need to do. Should we not as a collective be a bit more sensible with the rhetoric we use though.

milltown
tbf i normally take 70 minutes to get to work in the city
today it took me 44
m1 from sprucefield was 8 minutes to grosvenor so the place is quiet
in my own offices we have 15 in
reality we need cash collection to pay the wages next week.
tonights statement by the chancellor will explain if the collective is ever going to happen

I'm in my place of work in Belfast watching people go about their day, things not overly busy for a Friday but no fear or worried conversations, I'm in a very controlled environment using best  practices based on information from our head office in Dublin, no one is really going to change unless the government steps in and forcefully orders it! People are still passing it on. I haven't asked anyone to be  shot, yet

The problem is the government needs to cover wages otherwise people employers will come to work.

We would still need a skeleton crew to cover the needs of our patients though. So until I'm actually put in a position to self isolate.

Like I said it in my post  it's not overly busy for a Friday, but it's not empty from my window looking out

[93-DY-SAM]

A good mate thought he would getting some time off work as he's a teacher but understood he'd have to chip in at School and they'd do a rota and was more than happy to help, unfortunately he's been stitched up by the head and the vast majority of people he works with and is now going to end up working through the Easter holidays. The head came round the other day and read out a list of over 50 health issues of which some were very minor, 75% of all staff said they one or more (head had clearly briefed her friends first) and were told to go home and not come back for 12 weeks. Only a couple of them have kids that need to be home schooled and many of them are taking advantage of a situation, he reckons 3 of them are all over facebook stating there here to help any parents that require advice.

I have full sympathy for teachers in this as I have several teachers in immediate family but that is taking the piss. Teachers need to step up and adopt new innovative ideas to remotely teach children. It doesn't mean children should be on a video call with them or in a virtual classroom 9-3 every day. But they should have some way to keep in regular touch with children. I understand that many children may not have access to tablets, computers, phone even the internet or a pencil and paper for that matter which adds further complexity. These are exceptional times and need exceptional measures. In my mind going home and doing absolutely nothing for 12 weeks is not an option.

Don't know were you're getting the 12 weeks at home doing nothing.
To the best of my knowledge with schools in Derry, from out own kids school and friends who are teaching at other schools. Kids have either been given school packs (new ones every 2 weeks) or their lessons are up on Google docs with teachers updating daily.
Some schools are being setup as hubs to facilitate kids who's parents are working on the front line.
Are other areas approaching this differently?

That's not the experience our kids have so far. We are lifting packs from the school later today so that may change but I don't know what will be in these. I don't think sending home a pack is enough on its own it needs some form or regular communication with the teacher be that a quick 10/15 min Skype, Whatapp etc call to discuss things. I'm not a teacher. I work in technology and I'm just saying we need to think outside of the box in terms of this and come up with new innovative ideas to see us through this.

[WT4E]

Small businesses can avail of a £10k Grant however it appears you need to pay business rates which doesn't help the man with a van who is conducting his business from a room in his house. I know of a man who has lost £40k of work and we're only at the beginning of the whole thing