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Moving in to Garvaghey?

Wise up lads who cares where he lives

What's this?

I keep coming back to this, Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
https://youtu.be/vi7cuAjArRs

Wish you were here.

May hasn't been inept.

She has never, never has a hand to play here. Her country wish to leave. What interest would the EU have in smoothing this over, and handing out sweeteners?

What a second referendum would allow the UK to do is decide whether it's worth continuing with the process, now we are all better informed.

She is completely out of her depth. How can you not call the events of the last few days as inept leadership? She was dealt the hand and could've folded, but instead she bluffed the flop, bet the turn then went in all in with a pair of ducks on the river....and has came up with absolutely FA.

[The Brits will spell out all sorts of disastrous scenarios if there's a hard border and paint the Irish government as the bad guys, they'll say that the Irish government are bringing about a return to the Troubles and the British press will go all in.]

May will try to blackmail through a deal yet.

i) She'll try to get the backstop dropped. This could go down to the last week with the full weight of British imperial arrogance brought to bear on the Irish government. Leo Varadkar and Simon Coveney could well become public enemies number one and two in the British press come March. Anti-Irish feeeling in Britain could get extremely nasty.

ii) Meanwhile, Corbyn has one chance left to shift ground to favouring a second referendum, and that's when his no confidence vote fails. If he doesn't shift then, Labour will start imploding. May might well feel that she's more likely to persuade Labour MPs, especially anti-Corbyn MPs, to back a deal, backstop or no backstop, than Tory MPs.

(i) The EU have already stated that they would not be renegotiating the Withdrawal Agreement. So unless the EU go back on their word and do a complete U turn option 1 is irrelevant.

(ii) Corbyn is anti Europe so he will not countenance a second referendum. Labour may well implode though.

Not even mystic Meg could successfully predict the outcome at this stage.

The EU won't move and rightly so. What May will likely hope for is to play a massive game of chicken, or blackmail if you like, with the Irish government. The Brits will spell out all sorts of disastrous scenarios if there's a hard border and paint the Irish government as the bad guys, they'll say that the Irish government are bringing about a return to the Troubles and the British press will go all in.

What May will be hoping to do is to get Varadkar to go to the EU and request the backstop be dropped from the deal.

If you heard the Marian Finucane show on RTE Radio 1 on Sunday, Irexiteer charlatan Ray Bassett was trying to spin this type of narrative.

Do you genuinely believe that this is what will happen?

Also if Varadkar goes to the EU to get them to drop the backstop he would be political toast.   

Honestly never heard of Ray Bassett.

They have to try something radical or else it's going to go up in smoke.

Democratically what is the purpose of another referendum? The twats of GB voted to leave, why would they get another referendum because of May's ineptitude?

May will try to blackmail through a deal yet.

i) She'll try to get the backstop dropped. This could go down to the last week with the full weight of British imperial arrogance brought to bear on the Irish government. Leo Varadkar and Simon Coveney could well become public enemies number one and two in the British press come March. Anti-Irish feeeling in Britain could get extremely nasty.

ii) Meanwhile, Corbyn has one chance left to shift ground to favouring a second referendum, and that's when his no confidence vote fails. If he doesn't shift then, Labour will start imploding. May might well feel that she's more likely to persuade Labour MPs, especially anti-Corbyn MPs, to back a deal, backstop or no backstop, than Tory MPs.

(i) The EU have already stated that they would not be renegotiating the Withdrawal Agreement. So unless the EU go back on their word and do a complete U turn option 1 is irrelevant.

(ii) Corbyn is anti Europe so he will not countenance a second referendum. Labour may well implode though.

Not even mystic Meg could successfully predict the outcome at this stage.

The EU won't move and rightly so. What May will likely hope for is to play a massive game of chicken, or blackmail if you like, with the Irish government. The Brits will spell out all sorts of disastrous scenarios if there's a hard border and paint the Irish government as the bad guys, they'll say that the Irish government are bringing about a return to the Troubles and the British press will go all in.

What May will be hoping to do is to get Varadkar to go to the EU and request the backstop be dropped from the deal.

If you heard the Marian Finucane show on RTE Radio 1 on Sunday, Irexiteer charlatan Ray Bassett was trying to spin this type of narrative.

For us nationalist's in the North , what is the best case scenario? I don't like the idea of any pressure on Varadkar, because I think he'll fold. It's funny but in times like this we'd need Bertie back. Leo couldn't care less about us, whereas I think Bertie always did.

I'd assume all clubs are training at this stage. Some might be just in gym for now. But I'd be very surprised if any club had not started training yet.

Don't think all clubs have management appointed yet.

Any manager coming in will be impressed if the players can drive themselves. You don't need a manager to get the lads out and at it.

Any player that's doing a bit more than few squats or bench presses over Xmas or in January, needs a good hard kick in the penile region.

I'd say Donnelly has got enough from irish league supporters and even some reds supporters without worrying about what a few culchies on here are saying. He probably thought he was billy big balls getting her to pose in his shirt, and she probably thought she was great pulling a footballer. His mistake was sharing those photos. Even if she was older than 16, it's a scummy move just to show off to his mates.

Did 1 of the Kilkenny hurlers not do the same?

Was always hard to beat Paddy Donnelly's chippy in Coalisland. And if you didn't like burgers, he had a great John Wayne supper.

If you aimed for Sprucefield around 7.15 or so it'd leave you in good stead. 7.30 or later and it really starts to build up at Blaris.

If it's the blonde girl in the pics that we're doing the rounds on WhatsApp, she would easily pass for early 20s. Did he know she was only 16 at the time? Taking pics and sending them around mates is a sc**bag move.

100% agree. But I'm sure when we look back at some of the stuff we got up to, it wouldn't be good either. It was just that the use of cameras wasn't as prevalent.

[NORTHERN IRELAND]

https://www.fpa.org.uk/factsheets/law-on-sex#age-consent

NORTHERN IRELAND
The age of consent to any form of sexual activity is 16 for both men and women. The age of consent is the same regardless of gender or sexual orientation.

The Sexual Offences (Northern Ireland) Order 2008 introduced a series of laws to protect children under 16 from abuse. However, the law is not intended to prosecute mutually agreed teenage sexual activity between two young people of a similar age, unless it involves abuse or exploitation.

Specific laws protect children under 13, who cannot legally give their consent to any form of sexual activity. There is a maximum sentence of life imprisonment for rape and assault by penetration. There is no defence of mistaken belief about the age of the child, as there is in cases involving 13–15 year olds.

Article 79 of The Sexual Offences (Northern Ireland) Order 2008 amended "relevant offence" for section 5(1) of the Criminal Law Act (Northern Ireland) 1967 to exclude the duty to report information about the commission of an offence under Article 20. This therefore means that there is no statutory duty under criminal law to report to the police cases of sexual activity involving children under the age of 16 under articles 16 to 19 of the Order, where the other party is aged under 18"





I presume he was deemed to be off a similar age although he was 21, 5 years older, not sure how that works either, but even at that the "unless it involves abuse or exploitation" surely would be triggered when he took pictures of her against her wishes and distributed them.

I have no sympathy for him but I don't follow your train of thought.
She was 16. It was legal for him to have sex with her.
I don't think he took the pictures against her wishes. It has been mentioned that she posed for some of them.
He distributed an indecent image of someone under 18. This is illegal. This is what he was done for.

Alot of us on here with children, would be best keeping quiet. What happened Jay Donnelly, could easily be our son, or the girl could be our daughter. This is the modern world. Just keep that in mind.

[off the field]

Any truth that Loughmacrory have a new recruit in from Killyclogher?

Heard this aswel, massive addition for on and off the field!!!

Explain what you mean by off the field?  Leo's best days are well and truly over.

Yes best days are over him but to bring a man like this into a young Lough team is massive, experience and guidance from him and attitude is second to none
As for how they will benefit off the field?
Firstly im sure Leos children will now play for Loughmarory?
Secondly the work and history that the Mennagh family have brought to KC for years with the running of the club/coaching of youngsters/fund raising, there one of those familys that every club has and you need etc etc etc
This now id imagine is gone and buried with KC and Loughmacrory will now benefit from this!!

Is this all to do with the mess from last year that was mentioned on twitter?

He has been one of the top club forwards since 2001. Multiple club championship and all Ireland winner. Senior League winning captain. The brother was the first captain in the club's history to lift the ONeill Cup. Absolute joke the way his family have been treated by the club. A family that owe the club nothing and have been responsible for making the club enjoy its best days both on and off the field in recent years.  The current committee have a lot to answer for running the whole facade. The recent AGM was a total embarrassment for the club members both old and new. This has really split the club the past number of years to the point where people don't goto matches or get involved with teams otherwise would be accused of taking sides. Travesty that a player of this quality and stature feels forced to play his football elsewhere when really should be continuing to wear lesbleues jersey he gave many special days in. Wouldn't blame the siblings, cousins and next generation throwing their lot in elsewhere given how shamefully the club executive handled this in ostracizing the family. Perhaps the chosen few can discuss this at tonight's meeting!!!!

That's saying alot without saying anything.

Just enquiring if anyone heard any interesting tit-bits from the holiday? Specifically the absence of the backroom team and a possible player in a spot of bother? I heard a bit of info at work today but wouldn't read much into it unless someone else had heard the same.

[off the field]

Any truth that Loughmacrory have a new recruit in from Killyclogher?

Heard this aswel, massive addition for on and off the field!!!

Explain what you mean by off the field?  Leo's best days are well and truly over.

Yes best days are over him but to bring a man like this into a young Lough team is massive, experience and guidance from him and attitude is second to none
As for how they will benefit off the field?
Firstly im sure Leos children will now play for Loughmarory?
Secondly the work and history that the Mennagh family have brought to KC for years with the running of the club/coaching of youngsters/fund raising, there one of those familys that every club has and you need etc etc etc
This now id imagine is gone and buried with KC and Loughmacrory will now benefit from this!!

Is this all to do with the mess from last year that was mentioned on twitter?

Jesus lads the day Woodward and the board think they know more about players than the manager is a sad f**king day and the same goes for any manager at any club. If Mourinho is a dead man walking then he should be sacked today..

August 10th I said he should be sacked..I'll also wager a bet that the day he left Chelsea I said I feared he'd end up at United. When he eventually got the gig I thought he was probably the right man to get it and whatever the pros and cons of his reign, the squad is much healthier at the end of his time  If you.go back through the pages of this season I've called him out several times but with the proviso that the players and board also deserved some blame.

Player power is extremely dangerous.. Mourinho won a league at Chelsea then the players decided they didn't want him and got him the sack. Cue Conte coming in and immediately winning a league, what happened then? They decided they didn't like him either and stopped playing again..

Don't forget Dr Eva Carneiro. His public evisceration of her was the cause of his downfall with the Chelsea players. He should have been sacked the day he abused her. It shouldn't have taken the players to force it but with who's in charge at that club nothing would surprise you. The Conte situation looks bad as obviously he was able to get the best out of them and suddenly it stopped. Same with Rainieri at Leicester. Those types of incidents do trouble me. Neither are what happened at United as Mourinho never got the team performing to anything like their ability.

I grant you that there is a silver lining to the cloud of the last 2.5 years in that players came to the club during his time that good managers will be able to utilise. And thankfully Rashford, Martial or Pogba weren't forced out in that time.

Seanie, do you really think Rashford is the future?