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still not inconceivable that we could get relegated
could come down to Mayo game
if Mayo beat Galway next day out and Donegal overtone us will leave it interesting

Big time, a lot of work still to do, at the minute I'm not worried on relegation or not,if we go down then so be it, done Donegal no harm for a year, we just need to keep up performances up at this stage and carry into Ballybofey come championship time!!
Although my head tells me we will be fine, I cant see Mayo going to Galway and getting a result, Mayo struggling big time,some turn around from league winners last season

That was a very good performance from Tyrone, attitude was superb - obviously with the lack of Donnelly and McShane the conditions suited us tonight.

Burns, Brennan, Morgan, Rafferty and Colm Cavanagh were all superb but I thought Peter Harte was the best player on the pitch. He's been out of form badly of late and has came in for some justified criticism but that will hopefully get him in the groove. I think we have to use him inside like we did tonight for the rest of the year, particularly with Donnelly and McShane missing.

Good to see Hampsey and McKernan back too, thought both did well tonight after their layoffs.

Harte superb yes, and in particular Brennan and Morgan but for me the best player on the field was Rafferty, the man doesn't stop running, must be a nightmare to a corner forward on him, in the past 2 games against Galway and Dublin he cuda finished with 2:3/2:4, a joy to watch!!

I think they've only lost Corr to the Fianna and Gervin to Ardboe so 2 players transferred in 10 years would hardly constitute that's it's a regular thing. Gervin lives in ardboe too as far as I know.

Rouse to Moy...
McNally to Fianna(for about a month)

Rouse was managing the Moy at that time and played for and managed brackaville since that.

So 4 players in the past 10 years or less, is a good few, some clubs haven't lost 4 players in 100 years to a neighbouring parish, as for Rouse, he still left during his playing career to play for another club

Imagine leaving a club because you wanted to play D1 football only to be selected for the thirds and having to play against your first club. Scunndered for them.

who are the sly digs aimed at? no call for it.

My Guess its McGahan - Coalisland transferred him in from Killyman - was a great transfer for them as they wouldn't have won 2010 championship without him. Killyman man ended the 20 year wait for them.

They wudnt have won 2018 without him either, destroyed KC from the edge of the square and scored the crucial goal!!

Think this is aimed at a couple of brackaville lads who haven't set the world alight at coalisland!

Why is it that so many Brackaville players move on to another club, they have lost a few big players to The Fianna, Clonoe and Ardboe in recent year and I know they move onto bigger clubs but within the clubs isn't there a passion driven into them at a young age that playing for the club is something they should be proud and dreaming off doing!! Are there in house fights during these years with managers/players or what are their reasons  to their club and friends that they are leaving so go to another team just up the road??

Imagine leaving a club because you wanted to play D1 football only to be selected for the thirds and having to play against your first club. Scunndered for them.

who are the sly digs aimed at? no call for it.

My Guess its McGahan - Coalisland transferred him in from Killyman - was a great transfer for them as they wouldn't have won 2010 championship without him. Killyman man ended the 20 year wait for them.

They wudnt have won 2018 without him either, destroyed KC from the edge of the square and scored the crucial goal!!

Coalisland 3s work same as Errigal, they have to submit a panel who are then not eligible to play for the main senior team (But can play for Senior Reserves) - Is that the working of it?

No they cant play for Senior reserves, its one panel or the other

Senior/ Senior Reserves
Junior/ Junior Reserves

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

I think mcneice is still in his 20s and this lunatic is putting him down as being too old!

McNeice is 29, won the All Ireland minors with Petey Harte & Matty Donnelly in 2008

you do realise of the 14 outfield coalisland players against trillick in last years semi final 9 are under 25?  however i'm looking forward to see how McDollar copes with the pressure of another well paid clonoe manager coming up against us in the championship!

I hope come closer to the time you can tell us more of Coalislands tactics and player availability Local Expert.

Will Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane start for Coalisland this year v Clonoe in the Championship?

I don't understand your point. Are you suggesting they shouldn't?

Id say Clonoe would love to meet a Coalisland team without Kerr / McNiece / Toner / Kane, they would no longer be a top 4 side in Tyrone without them

[bit of rain forecast]

See McKenna looks to be going back to Oz. I think it shows how valued he is over there, if they are making so many allowances for him. Hopefully we see him in a Tyrone jersey again at some stage.

I think the club would cater for any player if they where feeling homesick and wanted time off,every player is an asset to them so they need to keep them right to get value for the wages they pay, esp in the current world with all this talk of health and wellbeing etc

You have a good chance of seeing him back in Tyrone colours but not for another few years, but by then what will he have left? Better concentrating on what we have and where we go from here, starting with Dublin on Saturday night. One week in Tyrone football seems like an eternity these days.

Is Healy Park going to be playable? Is the contingency to move it to Edendork on Sunday?

Don't see why Healy Park wouldn't be playable this weekend....bit of rain forecast, gives for a crappy enough day Saturday with winds. You would imagine Edendork already have had the call.

I think you've answered your own question

Forgot about Healy, highly unlikely it will be there if any rain, although Omagh will do there best to host this one, didn't they raise the price of pints the last time the Dubs came and made an absolute mint!!

See McKenna looks to be going back to Oz. I think it shows how valued he is over there, if they are making so many allowances for him. Hopefully we see him in a Tyrone jersey again at some stage.

I think the club would cater for any player if they where feeling homesick and wanted time off,every player is an asset to them so they need to keep them right to get value for the wages they pay, esp in the current world with all this talk of health and wellbeing etc

Look all we can do is back Mickey and the boys, its more than likely going to be his final year and he deserves all the backing he can get and not slated all the time, after all he's done for the County I think he deserves it!
I personally don't think this will be a good season but there's nothing I can do about it and what's the point on giving out now at this stage, Mickey knows himself its not looking good and why I believe he will leave himself at the end of the season

what way are the u20s going ATM? Be heavily fancied tomorrow?

1. Lorcan Quinn
2. Cormac Quinn
3. Cormac Munroe
4. Ryan Jones
5. Michael Gallagher
6. Antoin Fox
7. James McCann
8. Kevin Barker
9. Joe Oguz
10. Liam Gray
11. Darragh Canavan
12. Neil Kilpatrick
13. Ethan Jordan
14. Mattie Murnaghan
15. Tiarnan Quinn

7 or 8 from last year there on my count - expected to beat Armagh (4/7 with bookies) but still bad forecast for tomorrow and Armagh will be ready for a crack at them. Don't think they took that league too seriously - got beat by Louth during it.

What is the story with Michael Conroy? injured?

I heard he was removed from the panel...Not sure if true or not though...

Fall out with Paul Dook when on their training weekend. Generally seems to have a bad attitude

He apparently forgot where the toilet was.......

Fair play to Paul, Conroy was a main player on that team and he went to school in Armagh and would love to be playing against them. A lot of managers let players away with too much and this is how egos are built.

Yeah proper order, I think a few more cud have went aswel only they wudnt have had much of a panel left, wrecked the hotel they where in, every player had to pay a fine to cover the damage then!
Discipline was done a few years ago aswel when Morris from Galbally and I think someone from Dromore aswel where kicked off it, they went on to win All Ireland that year then

Think that was Sludden from Dromore. Don't get this idea of wrecking places when you are away with a team, why has that become a thing.. Even last year, the U20s were bouncing on top of some poor young girls car. Devlin has probably had enough at this stage.. Story I heard on Conroy was he was asked by Paul to stop smoking and continued to do so.. Could be wrong but was a pretty reliable source.

Is any of this true? Last I heard he underwent an operation on his shoulder and would be out for a year.

Players don't get kicked off for being injured...
I believe Kevin Cassidy from Gweedore cud say a lot about the toilet incident which took place in his bar

what way are the u20s going ATM? Be heavily fancied tomorrow?

1. Lorcan Quinn
2. Cormac Quinn
3. Cormac Munroe
4. Ryan Jones
5. Michael Gallagher
6. Antoin Fox
7. James McCann
8. Kevin Barker
9. Joe Oguz
10. Liam Gray
11. Darragh Canavan
12. Neil Kilpatrick
13. Ethan Jordan
14. Mattie Murnaghan
15. Tiarnan Quinn

7 or 8 from last year there on my count - expected to beat Armagh (4/7 with bookies) but still bad forecast for tomorrow and Armagh will be ready for a crack at them. Don't think they took that league too seriously - got beat by Louth during it.

What is the story with Michael Conroy? injured?

I heard he was removed from the panel...Not sure if true or not though...

Fall out with Paul Dook when on their training weekend. Generally seems to have a bad attitude

He apparently forgot where the toilet was.......

Fair play to Paul, Conroy was a main player on that team and he went to school in Armagh and would love to be playing against them. A lot of managers let players away with too much and this is how egos are built.

Yeah proper order, I think a few more cud have went aswel only they wudnt have had much of a panel left, wrecked the hotel they where in, every player had to pay a fine to cover the damage then!
Discipline was done a few years ago aswel when Morris from Galbally and I think someone from Dromore aswel where kicked off it, they went on to win All Ireland that year then

what way are the u20s going ATM? Be heavily fancied tomorrow?

1. Lorcan Quinn
2. Cormac Quinn
3. Cormac Munroe
4. Ryan Jones
5. Michael Gallagher
6. Antoin Fox
7. James McCann
8. Kevin Barker
9. Joe Oguz
10. Liam Gray
11. Darragh Canavan
12. Neil Kilpatrick
13. Ethan Jordan
14. Mattie Murnaghan
15. Tiarnan Quinn

7 or 8 from last year there on my count - expected to beat Armagh (4/7 with bookies) but still bad forecast for tomorrow and Armagh will be ready for a crack at them. Don't think they took that league too seriously - got beat by Louth during it.

What is the story with Michael Conroy? injured?

I heard he was removed from the panel...Not sure if true or not though...

Fall out with Paul Dook when on their training weekend. Generally seems to have a bad attitude

He apparently forgot where the toilet was.......

[Also are we sure he'll like the setup with Tyrone if he returns lets not forget he had two brothers who had a pretty messy breakup with Mickey who went to the papers about the incident]

Average AFL salary is nearly 200k STG - so would it be safe to say McKenna is on at least 150k and then with sponsorship and other bits of endorsements etc. he could be up to 200k - assuming after tax 140k in bank per year. another 5 or 6 years of that would be tempting for anyone - with it only likely to increase if avoided injuries.

Hes been away from a young age which is probably the hardest bit I'd say but if he has a year at home he could realise what hes missing in be back in the AFL in the near future.

Also are we sure he'll like the setup with Tyrone if he returns lets not forget he had two brothers who had a pretty messy breakup with Mickey who went to the papers about the incident - surely he'll be well warned about trusting Mickey within his own household. If Mickey is courting McKenna - he would need to realise Mickey will do whats best for Mickey and not whats best for Conor.

Would be class to see him star for Tyrone but he really needs to think about it as I would never like to see a lad give up on the opportunity to set himself up for life particularly when Tyrone don't seem to be making alot of in roads on another All Ireland at least in the current set up.

Important.

Neither of his brothers were good enough which was the reason they didn't make it. A lot of players like R McKenna, P Hughes, C McGinley, Danny McBride etc who would have all been close enough in age and getting reasonable opportunities at the time suddenly found themselves on the fringes when the U21 side of 2015 began to break through. Some players left on good terms, others didn't but the bottom line remains that both of McKenna's brothers probably weren't good enough for the level we were aspiring to.

Also was it not Shay McGuigan who went to the papers? Can't recall either of the McKennas speaking out at the time.

It was Mickey who went to the papers is what I meant. Give me either of the McKenna brothers ahead of Conor Myler, Ronan O'Neill, Ben McDonnell, Aidan McRory, Conal McCann, Hugh Pat McGeary

Even if I take your point - mickey and conor meet and the subject of his brothers come up. Mickey looks at him and says Conor your different your brothers weren't good enough and thats why they ended on the scrap heap that day they walked away from me.

They lost their places when better players came around and didn't have the heart to fight it out. There were a good few in that boat back then. I'd say a few regret not sticking it out.

Emmett McKenna was one of those who dropped off the panel when we got relegated in the league. We made an AI semi final that summer and unlucky not to make the final. We won two Ulster titles in a row after that. I'd say some of those lads would regret not waiting round and working for their places. Tiernan McCann is an example of a lad who had been on the fringes of the panel for 3 or 4 years before he made himself a regular in the team in 2015.

The brothers have hardly pulled up trees with Eglish since they dropped off and also spent time traveling. There seems to be nothing better in football in Tyrone to boost your ability by dropping off the county panel when you weren't seeing game time.

Tyrone have to make an All Ireland Semi, that's not an achievement for out great county any more, you wudnt see Kerry, Mayo, Dublin considers a Semi being a good enuf year, it should be a minimum, we are one of the top 4 teams in Ireland so cant expect to have anything less!
Emmett McKenna left with Shay McGuigan, Patrick McNeice, Dwayne Quinn, and PJ Lavery after the league in2015, they trained all pre season and throughout the league and got a couple of minutes, injured players came back and got on the last league game! You cudnt blame them!