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Well done Bannside,a few pints sunk in the club last night I'd say.

glens abu is as willing an idiot as you will get

Ha ha,Martin Og allow you to post again or is it Dee now who gives you the orders.

Ah the old "Martin Og" thing again. Are you even old enough to vote?

Directed that to Saffrongael,but if the cap fits.

Nothing to do with me, don't know who this Martin Og character is, not as versed in the Belfast republican spats as others, but that is your default response to anything he ever posts where he is being critical of your cult of any nature, it's quite predictable by now.

Well if you don't know anything about it you shoul keep your snout out of it.Martin Og and Dee head up his cult, but sure the Shinners the only ones allowed to be insulted.You would be better just commenting on subjects you know about.

glens abu is as willing an idiot as you will get

Ha ha,Martin Og allow you to post again or is it Dee now who gives you the orders.

Ah the old "Martin Og" thing again. Are you even old enough to vote?

Directed that to Saffrongael,but if the cap fits.

glens abu is as willing an idiot as you will get

Ha ha,Martin Og allow you to post again or is it Dee now who gives you the orders.

Anyone know what this is about: http://www.paulmurphy2014.com/sinn_fein_dirty_tricks_circulation_of_fake_facebook_conversation

There was a fake twitter from Paul Murphy saying he was deliberately telling lies about SF on water charges just to get elected.Mary Lou it on Facebook but when she discovered it was awake she has sinceut up a post to Paul and apologised.

I don't understand a word of that.

A SF supporter posted up a screenshot of a 'conversation' he purported to have had with Murphy on Facebook, where Murphy was suggesting that SF may well be sincere on water charges, and essentially he was doing what he had to do to try to get elected. The screenshot was tweeted by Mary Lou and Lynn Boylan, and the usual host of SF fanboys that swarm Twitter. It was then found to be a fake and they nearly all deleted it, some apologising and others not. While it's hard to see SF losing DSW, Murphy's campaign does seem to have jolted them somewhat, considering their promises regarding water charges last week and the posters put up about it. Then this smear job is planted to try to undermine Murphy. It says a lot about SF, while they can produce a positive campaign, if under pressure or looking unlikely to succeed the smears begin, and they have enough willing idiots active on social media to facilitate it.

Arsehole

Anyone know what this is about: http://www.paulmurphy2014.com/sinn_fein_dirty_tricks_circulation_of_fake_facebook_conversation

There was a fake twitter from Paul Murphy saying he was deliberately telling lies about SF on water charges just to get elected.Mary Lou it on Facebook but when she discovered it was awake she has sinceut up a post to Paul and apologised.

I don't understand a word of that.

Sorry,Paul Murphy who is the AAA candidate in the Dublin by election has been spreading the lie that SF are not anti water charges.Today a fake twitter reportedly from him saying that he was deliberately spreading the lie to get elected.Mary Lou had put this false twitter up on Facebook but when she discovered  it was false she apologised to Paul.

Interesting article from Danny Morrison first published in 2007





         



145 Divis Street


It wasn't supposed to be like this, thought one of Ian Paisley's lieutenants as he looked out across the front lawn of the City Hall. Above him the Union Jack flew, but before his eyes were thousands of St Patrick's Day revellers; dancing and singing; children on their fathers' shoulders applauding Girls Aloud. A sea of green - but worst still were flags coloured green, white and orange: the hated Tricolour.

What had gone wrong?

There was a time when 27,000 occupied houses in Belfast were unfit for human habitation. There was a time when in West Belfast male unemployment reached fifty per cent in places like Ballymurphy. In Enniskillen figures showed that Protestants were being allocated public housing at the rate of 11 to 1 over Catholics who made up half the population. There was a time when the IRA border campaign had fizzled out, when republicans were demoralised and were prepared to try new tactics, including participating in politics.

In Britain in September 1964 the Tory government called a Westminster general election for October 15. Sinn Fein was proscribed but for election purposes it stood as the Republican Party. On September 6, the republicans put a Tricolour in the front window of their election headquarters at 145 Divis Street.

The campaign got off to a slow start for all parties. Ulster Unionists were united and were standing in all twelve constituencies. The nationalist vote was badly divided – though in West Belfast Harry Diamond of Republican Labour was quietly confident that there was some unionist apathy and he could beat James Kilfedder for the seat, even though the intervention of former IRA prisoner Billy McMillan would split the vote.

The first scare came on Saturday, September 26, in a screaming front-page headline, when the 'News Letter' announced: "The Dollars Roll In – 'Plenty' in Sinn Fein election coffers". The main lead in its Monday edition was: "Paisley to march against Tricolour". Ian Paisley, Moderator of the Free Presbyterian Church, called upon Protestants to assemble in their thousands at the City Hall that evening to march on Divis Street. It was a call that sent a chill through the nationalist community, which had been subject to loyalist and police incursions in previous decades.

The RUC told the Minister of Home Affairs that it regarded the display of the Tricolour and Paisley's proposed protest as 'provocative acts'. (The flag had been in the window for three weeks without a complaint being made.) The Minister met Paisley and appealed to him. He agreed to call off the march but not the rally.

Later that day fifty RUC men, using pick axes and crowbars, smashed their way into the republican offices, seized the Tricolour, put it into a patrol car and drove off at high speed, whilst a sullen crowd of several hundred nationalists looked on. A notice was served on Billy McMillan, under the Flags and Emblems Act, which referred to the illegal "display of the Tricolour flag or flags of the Irish Republic, or any other flag or anything purporting to represent the Irish Republic."

From the street nationalists began shouting abuse at those in the republican office and demanded that a new Tricolour be displayed. The election directorate assuaged the crowd by issuing an ultimatum to the RUC that if the flag wasn't returned by Thursday it would be replaced.

That Monday night Paisley held a triumphant rally in the grounds of the City Hall where he welcomed unionist candidate, James Kilfedder. Kilfedder told the crowd: "The republicans must not be allowed to fly the Tricolour, and when the last vote is counted on polling day we must show the world that there was no wavering in the determination of the people to keep the Union Jack flying over West Belfast."

Unionist voters in the constituency were now galvanised.

In Ballynahinch, prime minister Terence O'Neill, surrounded by members of the Apprentice Boys, the Black Preceptory and six Orange bands, commenting on the seizure of the Tricolour, ridiculously declared that Sinn Fein was the main challenge and described the republicans as "nothing more than modern anarchists who refuse even now to abjure the discredited policy of violence." He ignored the fact that the threat of violence came from Paisley and the actual violence from the RUC under government instruction.

On Tuesday night Paisley held another rally at the City Hall and called upon the Minister to prosecute those responsible for displaying the flag. Over in Divis Street there was a standoff between a large nationalist crowd and riot police. On Wednesday night there were more scuffles, followed by RUC baton charges and stone throwing. On Thursday, after lodging their nomination papers, the republican candidates returned to the election headquarters and once again placed a Tricolour in the window to the cheers of supporters.

Shortly after 2pm a column of RUC men, backed up by a tender, arrived at the offices. They tried to break down the reinforced door and when that failed they simply smashed the pane-glass window, stepped in and seized the flag. Immediately, fighting broke out and by evening rioting was widespread throughout Divis Street and the Falls Road, and continued for the next two nights. Hundreds were injured and scores of people, including a mother of eight, were arrested and subsequently imprisoned for up to six months.

Calm was eventually restored but at the cost of nationalists biting their tongue: the Tricolour was never replaced in the window of 145 Divis Street - though the RUC didn't interfere either with the flag when it was carried in a parade from Beechmount to Hamill Street, which concluded in an election rally.

During the election campaign the British Labour leader (and subsequent prime minister) Harold Wilson issued a pledge to the Campaign for Social Justice that as PM he would outlaw racial and religious discrimination in the North. His remarks drew this page one headline from the 'News Letter': 'Interference in Ulster housing – Wilson bombshell'.

On October 15, James Kilfedder defeated Harry Diamond to become the Unionist MP for West Belfast. Billy McMillan lost his deposit. After the republican split in 1969 he became a leader in the 'Official' Republican Movement and was later assassinated by the INLA during a feud.

Kilfedder was carried shoulder-high at the City Hall amid cheers and the singing of 'The Sash'. He was greeted by an ebullient Ian Paisley who said: "I am absolutely satisfied. Sandy Row and Shankill did their stuff. They are well able to answer the Falls any day."

Last Wednesday, on St Patrick's Day, thousands of young people carrying Tricolours swarmed down Divis Street, past where 145 once stood, but oblivious to its history, through Castle Street and up Donegall Place to a concert outside the City Hall. It was the very route, in reverse, that 38-year-old Ian Paisley had threatened to take from the City Hall to Divis Street forty years earlier to remove from a window one Tricolour.

What, indeed, had gone wrong.

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© 2007 Irish Author and Journalist - Danny Morrison

Anyone know what this is about: http://www.paulmurphy2014.com/sinn_fein_dirty_tricks_circulation_of_fake_facebook_conversation

There was a fake twitter from Paul Murphy saying he was deliberately telling lies about SF on water charges just to get elected.Mary Lou it on Facebook but when she discovered it was awake she has sinceut up a post to Paul and apologised.

Jesus boys wait until you have a daughter getting married and you have 3/4 getting that all done.Nightmare.

Nah, Sean McKinley obviously was.

Yeah thought that was very sad.

Just watched it. By the looks of his marijuana plant Gerard Hodgkins is without doubt the clear winner 

Ha ha you know him so well

After the border campaign finished in the early 60,s there were very few who were involved in Republican politics in the North,it was only with the brutally againist the civil rights marchers and the loyalist pogroms in Belfast that the IRA grew in numbers and although some who joined,joined to free Ireland the majority joined because of the injustice that was happening around them.The new recruits were then educated both inside and outside the jails in Republican politics and of course then they believed the only way to a far society was in a United Ireland.I am with Lynchboy on this.

The front page of the Andytown News sport section??

What in the name of Jesus is that all about?

Ha ha The final frontier 

Well done again St Galls a credit to Antrim

WTF relevance is a border poll to the Scottish independence vote... It would only be relevant if the 6 counties of the North was running a referendum on independence, which would never happen as Thatcher would be better than those cnuts at Stormont.

The question on the United Ireland is completely different as it not just the decision of people in the 6 counties.

It is

You can try to convince yourself all you want but no it is not. It was entirely their own decision.

I don't need to convince myself of anything,it's in black and white when the majority of those living in the 6 counties vote to leave the UK it shall happen?It will be their decision and theirs alone.