Tyrone County Football and Hurling

[Redhand Santa]

Like when Harte was manager I wouldn't be getting too carried away at this time of year either way. Two years ago when Tyrone won the All Ireland they were poor enough in the league despite making the semi finals. I would still be concerned though as we never got going last year at all and are playing close to our full 15.

The team are getting out worked, out fought and out ran against any kind of decent opposition. In all the defeats this year they have played against the wind in the first half (and are choosing to when get the chance). They are then entering the game with a real negative mindset and trying to slow everything down and waste time in the first half. This is summed up by the constant back passing to Morgan who then holds it for as long as possible. They are afraid to shoot against the wind and happy to go in behind. Then in the second half they are having to chase the game. If they'd been clinical in the first 15 minutes of it in both games they would probably have won the matches. But instead they've had to continue to chase it and then leaving huge gaps at the back.

Compare the way we played against the wind to both Roscommon and Galway. They ran at pace right down the heart of the Tyrone defence scoring far more than we did against it. Our play is so much slower and so predictable with everything going wide and recycled. We also have to show a lot more fight and hunger to win primary possession in the middle. As someone else said we are playing big midfielders but getting cleaned out in the air.

Its a compressed season now. Its completely different scenario, Tyrone will be finished up in June for another 6 months or so.

The performances in the league were poor enough in 2021 and they conceded 6 goals to Kerry in the semi final. Just over two months later they beat them in the All Ireland semi final. It is still relatively early - Kerry themselves haven't even started yet. I'd like to see a strong finish to the league to show signs of improvement - both in terms of a system and desire from the players.

This is a great test this Saturday night. It's been a poor start to the league and now they have a chance to turn it round on a good surface in front of a big crowd against one of the form teams in the country. It wouldn't shock me if there was an improvement and they picked up the points.

[trailer]

It's only the league and you can't read much into it but the most concerning thing was the lack of ambition shown in Roscommon & Tuam in both first halfs playing against the wind. It was clear that the intention was get to half time and not be too far behind but it was a tough watch, always going sideways, a seeming refusal to kick it forward unless one of the midfielders had drifted into FF. I don't remember many Tyrone games in Castlebar being affected by conditions so it shouldn't be a factor on Saturday.

I watched McShane win ball inside the 14, then look up and KICK IT back out past the 40! Like WTF? Turn and take the man on... that is your job! No urgency. No risk taking. Go at them.

[Tyrone11234]

Emmett mcnabb left the panel

[NotedObserver]

If you're not playing for Tyrone these days you leave

[toby47]

McNabb, O'Neill, Bradley, McKenna, Donaghy, Lee Brennan, Michael Cassidy, Rory Brennan, Tiarnan McCann. Tyrone's panel would be seriously stronger if even half of those lads were still about, it's a crazy amount of quality men to walk away over the past couple of years and it's no doubt left Tyrone short on a bit of quality.

Is McNamee due back anytime soon? Him, Harte & Mattie will probably all retire any year now also you would imagine.

[clubman21]

Not counting the two lads with the 20s, what out and out forwards do we have at the minute does anyone know

[GlenMan]

Not counting the two lads with the 20s, what out and out forwards do we have at the minute does anyone know

DD Mulgrew is the only proper forward on the bench now

[clubman21]

Well that's very worrying

[Under Lights]

McNabb, O'Neill, Bradley, McKenna, Donaghy, Lee Brennan, Michael Cassidy, Rory Brennan, Tiarnan McCann. Tyrone's panel would be seriously stronger if even half of those lads were still about, it's a crazy amount of quality men to walk away over the past couple of years and it's no doubt left Tyrone short on a bit of quality.

Is McNamee due back anytime soon? Him, Harte & Mattie will probably all retire any year now also you would imagine.

Mcnamee was on bench v Galway

[square_ball]

He wasn't on the bench in the finish up. Ryan Jones took his spot.

[NotedObserver]

McNabb, O'Neill, Bradley, McKenna, Donaghy, Lee Brennan, Michael Cassidy, Rory Brennan, Tiarnan McCann. Tyrone's panel would be seriously stronger if even half of those lads were still about, it's a crazy amount of quality men to walk away over the past couple of years and it's no doubt left Tyrone short on a bit of quality.

Is McNamee due back anytime soon? Him, Harte & Mattie will probably all retire any year now also you would imagine.

Surely too many for management not being an issue?

Mcnamee was on bench v Galway

[WT4E]

Not counting the two lads with the 20s, what out and out forwards do we have at the minute does anyone know

DD Mulgrew is the only proper forward on the bench now

You'd wonder why they picked out Liam Nugent to be the only man to drop from the panel when you see how short of scoring forwards they are. Think thye told him sure we might need you later in the year and he told them your alright!!! Maybe if he was from Moy Omagh or Errigal he would have survived!

[Redhand Santa]

Not counting the two lads with the 20s, what out and out forwards do we have at the minute does anyone know

DD Mulgrew is the only proper forward on the bench now

You'd wonder why they picked out Liam Nugent to be the only man to drop from the panel when you see how short of scoring forwards they are. Think thye told him sure we might need you later in the year and he told them your alright!!! Maybe if he was from Moy Omagh or Errigal he would have survived!

How many Moy or Omagh men are in the panel?

[Mikhailov]

Not counting the two lads with the 20s, what out and out forwards do we have at the minute does anyone know

DD Mulgrew is the only proper forward on the bench now

You'd wonder why they picked out Liam Nugent to be the only man to drop from the panel when you see how short of scoring forwards they are. Think thye told him sure we might need you later in the year and he told them your alright!!! Maybe if he was from Moy Omagh or Errigal he would have survived!

Nugent wasn't the only man dropped from the panel that week. Two other lads (ironically from Omagh) were also dropped as far as I know. Eoin Corey & Aidan Clarke

All 3 lads should have been kept on as the NFL was only starting and for sure injuries would happen and full squad would be needed. But they maybe left on their own accord.

[God14]

What a sorry mess this is, and no matter what way you dress it up, it reflects very very poorly on the management.