Hamas attack Israel & subsequent genocide

[tonto1888]

Have Hamas went too far? Will SF be under pressure to disassociate themselves from it? Kidnapping children is not a good look.

Unless you're Israel

[PadraicHenryPearse]

People, as humans, will only take so much before they decide enough is enough.

Surprising thing is that Israel didn't know this was coming.  There will be huge questions over their security services and intelligent services.

I don't believe for a second that the most sophisticated intelligence setup in the world did not know this was coming.  Such was the scale of the attack (7000+ rockets fired?), they had to have known.  So why let it happen?  Israel now have the excuse and widespread backing to wipe any semblance of Palestine off the map ... and they will.

We're always accustomed to supporting the underdog, the oppressed, the Palestinians ... the barbaric scenes being committed on behalf of the Palestinian people does nothing to help their cause.  As always, it's the innocent on both sides who will pay the price.

Barbaric is 75 years of occupation, ethic cleaning and apartheid. Barbaric is the silence of western leaders to Israeli actions and their pathetic response to yesterday's heroic resistance by Palestinans.

this is Israel
https://twitter.com/One_Dawah/status/1710765784765485446?t=IASChZq_3pFfpYhaUz93Ig&s=19

[Sportacus]

People, as humans, will only take so much before they decide enough is enough.

Surprising thing is that Israel didn't know this was coming.  There will be huge questions over their security services and intelligent services.

I don't believe for a second that the most sophisticated intelligence setup in the world did not know this was coming.  Such was the scale of the attack (7000+ rockets fired?), they had to have known.  So why let it happen?  Israel now have the excuse and widespread backing to wipe any semblance of Palestine off the map ... and they will.

We're always accustomed to supporting the underdog, the oppressed, the Palestinians ... the barbaric scenes being committed on behalf of the Palestinian people does nothing to help their cause.  As always, it's the innocent on both sides who will pay the price.

Barbaric is 75 years of occupation, ethic cleaning and apartheid. Barbaric is the silence of western leaders to Israeli actions and their pathetic response to yesterday's heroic resistance by Palestinans.

this is Israel
https://twitter.com/One_Dawah/status/1710765784765485446?t=IASChZq_3pFfpYhaUz93Ig&s=19

The people in Gaza are desperate but there was nothing heroic about it. It was medieval and only turned more people against them. 

[PadraicHenryPearse]

It was most certainly heroic, the occupied rising up against their occupier, an occupier armed to the teeth and who cages 2m people in Gaza..  a blow to apartheid Israel and great victory for Palestinans. 

Who are they turning against them, the people who turned a blind eye and stayed silent to apartheid crimes for 75 years...

[Sportacus]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

[bennydorano]

A line was crossed. Netanyahu who has a similar outlook on Democracy as Trump will use it for all it is worth domestically & internationally. Iran who have their tentacles in many proxy wars are going to get a big touch here as well in the coming weeks/ months, possibly enough to escalate this situation into a full on regional war.

[bennydorano]

See something on Twitter there about an Egyptian police officer opening fire on Israeli tourists in Alexandria. That can't be good for calming this situation (assuming it's legit).

[seafoid]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

Israel has thousands of Palestiniqn kids in its prisons. These are used as pawns to extract concessions from the Palestinians. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Looking at the kidnapppings without understanding the context leads to the wrong conclusions.

[Deerstalker]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

Yeah shooting dead Israeli pensioners at a bus stop isn't heroic, but that's just me

[PadraicHenryPearse]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

total bullshit, Israel bares fully responsible for everything that happens. Motorbikes and pickups probably better then the MSF ambulance targeted and destroyed by Israel yesterday, Gaza is not provided the funds from the west to have the best transport available... There are numerous clips online of the settlers being treated very humanely. these settlers who occupy the raised villages of ethically cleanse in the nakba and since serve in the IDF and actively participate in Israeli apartheid regime.

if you only support their struggle when Palestinans are being subservient and being murdered then I doubt they'd think they need your support. No conflict , none is without acts that in the normal course of conflict are unsavoury.

[seafoid]

People, as humans, will only take so much before they decide enough is enough.

Surprising thing is that Israel didn't know this was coming.  There will be huge questions over their security services and intelligent services.

I don't believe for a second that the most sophisticated intelligence setup in the world did not know this was coming.  Such was the scale of the attack (7000+ rockets fired?), they had to have known.  So why let it happen?  Israel now have the excuse and widespread backing to wipe any semblance of Palestine off the map ... and they will.

We're always accustomed to supporting the underdog, the oppressed, the Palestinians ... the barbaric scenes being committed on behalf of the Palestinian people does nothing to help their cause.  As always, it's the innocent on both sides who will pay the price.

Barbaric is 75 years of occupation, ethic cleaning and apartheid. Barbaric is the silence of western leaders to Israeli actions and their pathetic response to yesterday's heroic resistance by Palestinans.

this is Israel
https://twitter.com/One_Dawah/status/1710765784765485446?t=IASChZq_3pFfpYhaUz93Ig&s=19

The people in Gaza are desperate but there was nothing heroic about it. It was medieval and only turned more people against them. 

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

Israel is medieval
Judaism is in such a hole


Skin bank
https://twitter.com/Anna_AnninaEl/status/1702765230089032016

Female soldiers testimony
https://mobile.twitter.com/abierkhatib/status/1634650035706302464

Shooting for sport
https://mobile.twitter.com/OnlinePalEng/status/1629521558518771712

May your village be burned. Beitar
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JS_ALvW40yI

Shooting children
https://twitter.com/DoubleDownNews/status/1676576618188353539


Israelis need to understand what it feels like to be powerless.  There is no security for them until the occupation ends.

[gallsman]

Was Kingsmill heroic? Mountbatten?

Moronic stuff."What's good for the goose is good for the gander". What f**king age are you, you absolute child. Once you adopt that attitude, any sense of a moral high ground is immediately conceded.

Red Hand, just so you know, that's a "rhetorical" question, doesn't need an answer. Just to be clear in case you confuse a narrative technique for pretentiousness again.

[Itchy]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

Yeah shooting dead Israeli pensioners at a bus stop isn't heroic, but that's just me

Neither is shooting dead a father and son cowering for shelter at a street corner. Neither is driving over foreign journalists. Neither is knocking people's houses down on top of them. But that's just me.

[gallsman]

Dragging unarmed women and children away on the back of motorbikes and pickups is heroic?  Two wrongs never make a right. Israel's treatment of civilians has been horrendous but there's absolutely no way yesterday was the right response, on so many levels.

Yeah shooting dead Israeli pensioners at a bus stop isn't heroic, but that's just me

Neither is shooting dead a father and son cowering for shelter at a street corner. Neither is driving over foreign journalists. Neither is knocking people's houses down on top of them. But that's just me.

Find many people here disputing that, do you?

[seafoid]

Was Kingsmill heroic? Mountbatten?

Moronic stuff."What's good for the goose is good for the gander". What f**king age are you, you absolute child. Once you adopt that attitude, any sense of a moral high ground is immediately conceded.

Red Hand, just so you know, that's a "rhetorical" question, doesn't need an answer. Just to be clear in case you confuse a narrative technique for pretentiousness again.

The occupation will only stop when the cost to Israelis is too high. That is what ended the war in the North.
In the North during the war the rules were established early on. It's the same in any war.
Israel sets the rules. Women and children are targeted, kidnapped and killed according to need.
Palestinians are not going to invite them in for tea.

There was a lady on CNN moaning that the Palestinians don't follow international law. Neither does Israel.