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I'm assuming all business is now done for Liverpool for the year. Happy enough to be honest.

Lack of finance and PX seems weird as well. There's very few car places that don't offer finance. Alarm bells are ringing.

Crazy prices.

Edit ** their webpage says as seen on love money. Checked love money and can't find anything about them. I'd stay clear unless I found out a lot more!!

[But I can also understand other factors being discussed such as economic impacts, impact on waiting lists, mental health etc.]

The self pity mob are piling it on rich and thick this afternoon

Must be great to be a fake victim all the time

Saves having to debate 

Rossfan's posts aren't debating. He waits until someone else does the hard work like Hound above, and the rows in with a "witty" one liner belittling other posters rather than entering into the debate.

It's not a black or white issue. Levels of restrictions required are absolutely an area for discussion. I'd side on the viewpoint of being over cautious to prevent a soar in cases again, 100 % agree that masks should be worn etc. But I can also understand other factors being discussed such as economic impacts, impact on waiting lists, mental health etc. I don't think a blanket shut down of these discussions and accusing anyone who enters into these debates as being deniers helps in any way.

Edit** Or you have the above post. No one ever said that no one gets long term effects from covid. It's a typical straw man argument.

Who exactly has discounted the effects of economic downturns, waiting lists or mental health?

Nobody as far as I know

Nobody wants to be in this situation

But you cannot wish a pandemic away

There are a lot of internet experts out there

They rarely if ever actually propose anything, they never actually deal with what the real impacts of progressive liberalisation of restrictions would be

We already have plenty of liberalisation of restrictions in this country

Level 3 is far from where we were in April

I've explained my point already. It's not really that big a deal. I find Rossfan's posts exaggerating other posters views to try and make it sound like they are in denial of the pandemic disingenuous.

You are absolutely right in the amount of internet experts out there.   

Stop being negative Hound sure they're only statistics according to some geniuses!!

The whole basis for any scientific study is based on data & stats. It proves or dis-proves a theory based on populations of standard sampling. Your an annoying kind of fella, with your constant snide remarks. Very little substance to your posts.

I don't agree with you on Covid but 100% agree with this. Rossfan's attempt to shout down/ belittle people with different view points is seriously irritating. The Karen posts of a month or two back being prime examples.

I can post what I like on this forum once it's not libellous and tough titty if you get irritated by Connacht ways of putting things.

If the WORLD Health Organisation declares Covid a feckin pandemic causing 150 or more Governments and National Health Bodies to get worried and bring in all sorts of measures to combat it then I'm going to take them and it serious.
A few lads on GAAboard or the thousands of facebook "experts" don't cut much ice with me.

If I'm sick I'll go to the doctor, if I want my hair cut I'll go to the barber.
Now the barber may have loads of opinions on doctors, health hospitals etc but I'll still go to the doc if I'm sick.
Geologists tell us the World is 4 or 5 Billion years old. Edwin Poots says its 6,000 years old.
I will not be debating with Poots.

You can absolutely post what you want just as I can make comment on those posts.

I value the debate, when engaged by both sides. I don't value people who try to belittle others viewpoints and creating strawman arguments. It drags the content of the thread down, causes entrenchment of viewpoints and adds zero to it.

Anyway, I've said my piece.

The self pity mob are piling it on rich and thick this afternoon

Must be great to be a fake victim all the time

Saves having to debate 

Rossfan's posts aren't debating. He waits until someone else does the hard work like Hound above, and the rows in with a "witty" one liner belittling other posters rather than entering into the debate.

It's not a black or white issue. Levels of restrictions required are absolutely an area for discussion. I'd side on the viewpoint of being over cautious to prevent a soar in cases again, 100 % agree that masks should be worn etc. But I can also understand other factors being discussed such as economic impacts, impact on waiting lists, mental health etc. I don't think a blanket shut down of these discussions and accusing anyone who enters into these debates as being deniers helps in any way.

Edit** Or you have the above post. No one ever said that no one gets long term effects from covid. It's a typical straw man argument.

Stop being negative Hound sure they're only statistics according to some geniuses!!

The whole basis for any scientific study is based on data & stats. It proves or dis-proves a theory based on populations of standard sampling. Your an annoying kind of fella, with your constant snide remarks. Very little substance to your posts.

I don't agree with you on Covid but 100% agree with this. Rossfan's attempt to shout down/ belittle people with different view points is seriously irritating. The Karen posts of a month or two back being prime examples. 

We're only really starting to see the benefit of being out in Clanabogan recently. Things don't change in a club overnight and a lot of people have worked hard to get structures into the club that wouldn't have been there when I was growing up. Numbers are creeping up and more people want to be involved with the club which is helping with the coaching so that's having a knock on effect.
We've always had good players, but to be a consistent club you need 3-4 underage players coming up into the senior squad each year. In the past we haven't had that and older players have plugged gaps. Now we are starting to see players coming through more consistently from under age and that has freshened up the squad a lot.

I wouldn't agree with it being a free go on Sunday either. We waited 21 years to get back to a final and no guarantees of when the next one might be. As an ex manager would say, take your dinner when it's hot.

Great to be back in a county final. 21 years is a long time. Was a tough game on Saturday but will do the team the world of good especially winning it without Shane Cleary. Couple of the younger lads have stood up which is great to see.

The quick turn around might suit us and doesn't give as much time for the nerves to build especially for the younger lads.

Have to dig that bunting out of the back of the garage now....

SS, if you have any spare green/white flegs on ye, let your club know as it'll stop them telephoning my da's house looking for one to put up on the flagpoles at Healy Park! He wants that one back after the final, win or lose! 

Just as a public service, I got a few green/white** chequered flegs on ebay this time last week from these guys - ordered them on Tuesday, came in the post on Thursday, can't complain for the price.




** Other colour combinations are of course available.

Good man Jimmy. I'm sure Fintona will be getting the colors up as well to support their neighbours!! 

Think Prices Lynchs have them in now anyway!!

They might want to keep their's up a while tho!!

Cleary strained hamstring. Hoping he'll be back for this weekend but unsure at the minute.

Great to be back in a county final. 21 years is a long time. Was a tough game on Saturday but will do the team the world of good especially winning it without Shane Cleary. Couple of the younger lads have stood up which is great to see.

The quick turn around might suit us and doesn't give as much time for the nerves to build especially for the younger lads.

Have to dig that bunting out of the back of the garage now....

[One idea I'd have is for county league promotion and relegation to be based on championship performance.]

Some serious bullshit on here about the CPA which has to be answered.

If people think they're anything but a genuine group of people who are honestly dedicated to fixing the fixtures then they need their heads read. Take the time to listen to their representatives and read the documents they've published. There's absolutely nothing in it for these people yet they're giving their free time to push this. The CPA leadership desperately hope that this gets fixed and the CPA is disbanded as soon as possible. That's an undeniable fact.

And there are quite a number of people signed up who interact with the CPA leadership, responding to questionnaire's, providing feedback, attending meetings.

It's the same with everything in this country. We say "things are shit" but "please don't fix them". Anyone who gets up off their holes to try and fix something is derided as a crank.

Well said MS, what's is Five Points agenda here. Saying as you don't agree with the CPA suggestions to sort the continued shafting of club players, prey tell us all your ideas to solve the club players plight and have a calendar season with a clear start and finish?

No agenda here, but you wont get a calendar season with a clear start and finish without first doing a lot of harm. And I don't agree that club players are always getting shafted.  The club scene in most counties, as far as I can see, is thriving. 

Granted, clubs naturally want to have their best/county panel players for as many league games as possible and for the entire championship campaign. If players are going to play for club and county, each has to accommodate the other.

One idea I'd have is for county league promotion and relegation to be based on championship performance. So if you lose league games because you're missing Johnny the county man for a couple of months, you won't be punished.

And I'd ditch the new idea of your national league status impacting on your All Ireland Championship status. If counties want to release players on a rotational basis to allow their club have them for a weekend or two in the spring, they shouldn't be punished either.

Forcing a calendar season means that club championships will be rushed in counties that do well in the intercounty championship. I'd give counties that reach the All Ireland QFs a bye in the early rounds of the club provincial senior championships.

And I'd scrap the intermediate and junior provincial championships, or play them knockout in Jan or Feb.

How would that look? Obviosuly in a League you play so many games and the 2/3 teams at the bottom go down. How would that work tied to a championship where you have 50% of the teams out in the first round?

Did anyone hear something about a well known political Cavan family being involved?

There's a well known political Cavan family?

Yes.

Is this the person they cannot name for legal reasons?

"The men are Luke O'Reilly (66), Mullahoran Lower, Kilcogy, Co Cavan; Alan O'Brien (38), Shelmalier Road, East Wall, Dublin 3; Darren Redmond (25), Caledon Road, East Wall and another man in his 30s who cannot be named for legal reasons and by order of the court."

Don't think so, the person they can't name is up on a murder charge.

It's the mother and son who I've heard are connected to a well known political family in Cavan, I think the mother was brought in connection with buying credit for phones that were used in the Lunney kidnapping.

That sounds like a Cavan plan, a Cavan lad planning a kidnap and torture event, decides that subterfuge is getting his mom to purchase credit for the phones, that in all eventualities it could never fall back to him.

You're the bigger fool to believe anything Angelo says.

Now tell me where was that Hughes lad from that was trafficking humans in the back of trucks?

Where did I say that I believed what was written by Angelo.
Do you have any theories about the inspiration  and subsequent motivation for the attacks against QIH?

A)It could be done in support of Quinn rather than at his instruction. I don't think anyone would have disputed the support and loyalty SQ had in the area.
B) KL has an on-going family feud with another family in Kinawley that has already spilled over to police involvement, restraining orders etc.
C) Maybe the current directors hands weren't clean from the early attacks to get the buy out completed and the people involved aren't happy to stand down just because the Directors seem to have got what they wanted.

Might be none of the above either.

I'd file those under the far fetched variety.

Right up there with Tyrone having the best championship in Ulster. 

Not really, what the Ulster club has shown us so far this year is that there is little between the all the teams and Tyrone has by far and away the most competitive senior club championship.

Indeed.

Did anyone hear something about a well known political Cavan family being involved?

There's a well known political Cavan family?

Yes.

Is this the person they cannot name for legal reasons?

"The men are Luke O'Reilly (66), Mullahoran Lower, Kilcogy, Co Cavan; Alan O'Brien (38), Shelmalier Road, East Wall, Dublin 3; Darren Redmond (25), Caledon Road, East Wall and another man in his 30s who cannot be named for legal reasons and by order of the court."

Don't think so, the person they can't name is up on a murder charge.

It's the mother and son who I've heard are connected to a well known political family in Cavan, I think the mother was brought in connection with buying credit for phones that were used in the Lunney kidnapping.

That sounds like a Cavan plan, a Cavan lad planning a kidnap and torture event, decides that subterfuge is getting his mom to purchase credit for the phones, that in all eventualities it could never fall back to him.

You're the bigger fool to believe anything Angelo says.

Now tell me where was that Hughes lad from that was trafficking humans in the back of trucks?

Where did I say that I believed what was written by Angelo.
Do you have any theories about the inspiration  and subsequent motivation for the attacks against QIH?

A)It could be done in support of Quinn rather than at his instruction. I don't think anyone would have disputed the support and loyalty SQ had in the area.
B) KL has an on-going family feud with another family in Kinawley that has already spilled over to police involvement, restraining orders etc.
C) Maybe the current directors hands weren't clean from the early attacks to get the buy out completed and the people involved aren't happy to stand down just because the Directors seem to have got what they wanted.

Might be none of the above either.

I'd file those under the far fetched variety.

Right up there with Tyrone having the best championship in Ulster. 

Did anyone hear something about a well known political Cavan family being involved?

There's a well known political Cavan family?

Yes.

Is this the person they cannot name for legal reasons?

"The men are Luke O'Reilly (66), Mullahoran Lower, Kilcogy, Co Cavan; Alan O'Brien (38), Shelmalier Road, East Wall, Dublin 3; Darren Redmond (25), Caledon Road, East Wall and another man in his 30s who cannot be named for legal reasons and by order of the court."

Don't think so, the person they can't name is up on a murder charge.

It's the mother and son who I've heard are connected to a well known political family in Cavan, I think the mother was brought in connection with buying credit for phones that were used in the Lunney kidnapping.

That sounds like a Cavan plan, a Cavan lad planning a kidnap and torture event, decides that subterfuge is getting his mom to purchase credit for the phones, that in all eventualities it could never fall back to him.

You're the bigger fool to believe anything Angelo says.

Now tell me where was that Hughes lad from that was trafficking humans in the back of trucks?

Where did I say that I believed what was written by Angelo.
Do you have any theories about the inspiration  and subsequent motivation for the attacks against QIH?

A)It could be done in support of Quinn rather than at his instruction. I don't think anyone would have disputed the support and loyalty SQ had in the area.
B) KL has an on-going family feud with another family in Kinawley that has already spilled over to police involvement, restraining orders etc.
C) Maybe the current directors hands weren't clean from the early attacks to get the buy out completed and the people involved aren't happy to stand down just because the Directors seem to have got what they wanted.

Might be none of the above either.