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Re: Man Utd Thread:
« Reply #43680 on: April 16, 2018, 03:45:57 PM »
I really hope the chat about Willian turns out to be just that.

I would take Alderweireld in a heart beat, paid him with any of them who are still there and I think it improves the team straight away.

I can see Shaw heading for the exit, so room for Young Valencia and AN Other to come in.


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« Reply #43681 on: April 16, 2018, 03:53:49 PM »
Form and tactics count for a lot (and tactics have a direct impact on form). This time last year everyone would have wanted a handful of Chelsea players in their side. The year before a few Leicester lads. Everyone would love a few city players now....

Yes, take your point. A few months back i'd probably have had a very different view around the respective backlines and the likes of Matic in midfield.   
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« Reply #43682 on: April 16, 2018, 04:05:05 PM »
Are Liverpool really any nearer to winning the league than United? United are criticised by nearly every pundit yet if they win their game in hand they'll be 4 points clear of Liverpool. Their squad has very little depth and will likely loose Can this summer to make matters worse. If any of the front 3 got injured they'd be in big trouble. They probably need 4 or 5 quality players to win a title and not convinced they'll get them this summer. Win the CL and Klopp will get a free ride for a few years though and probably deservedly so.

Only time will tell but I do think there's a lot more to come from United. We've tended to have some very good halfs of football this season against the top teams in the league which is an improvement on last season. I think we've got huge issues at fullback, they've both got slower as the season has gone on; Replace them and we'll see a difference. We need a centre half and a centre mid too, ideally we need a right sided attacking player but don't see one coming in unless Martial is sold.


With the greatest respect though Liverpool have not won the league in almost 30 years and are operating off a much lower budget. They haven't spent near the money United have. To be no closer to winning the league than them must be classed as a failure. I don't mean any disrespect to Liverpool in that by the way....and they may indeed win a league before United do. Especially if there's no managerial changes in wither club.

Any names of players who'd improve United?

Neither did Leicester...

Utd (Jose) needs to assess his best team and get everyone fit, the season has been a disaster and will be compounded even further, next week against Spurs.. the 30 minutes I watched at the weekend was dreadful, not unlike a lot of games this season. Its got that bad now my dad doesnt bother to watch them live, prefering match of the day, he's been watching them since the mid 50's and its been too many poor games that have slipped away, negitive play also! He prefers the highlights (limited) rather the whole game..

There is a league winning team there, maybe MS is right but I can't see Klopp coming to Utd TBH and he's about the best out there along with Pep
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« Reply #43683 on: April 16, 2018, 04:14:15 PM »
Are Liverpool really any nearer to winning the league than United? United are criticised by nearly every pundit yet if they win their game in hand they'll be 4 points clear of Liverpool. Their squad has very little depth and will likely loose Can this summer to make matters worse. If any of the front 3 got injured they'd be in big trouble. They probably need 4 or 5 quality players to win a title and not convinced they'll get them this summer. Win the CL and Klopp will get a free ride for a few years though and probably deservedly so.

Only time will tell but I do think there's a lot more to come from United. We've tended to have some very good halfs of football this season against the top teams in the league which is an improvement on last season. I think we've got huge issues at fullback, they've both got slower as the season has gone on; Replace them and we'll see a difference. We need a centre half and a centre mid too, ideally we need a right sided attacking player but don't see one coming in unless Martial is sold.


With the greatest respect though Liverpool have not won the league in almost 30 years and are operating off a much lower budget. They haven't spent near the money United have. To be no closer to winning the league than them must be classed as a failure. I don't mean any disrespect to Liverpool in that by the way....and they may indeed win a league before United do. Especially if there's no managerial changes in wither club.

Any names of players who'd improve United?

Neither did Leicester...

Utd (Jose) needs to assess his best team and get everyone fit, the season has been a disaster and will be compounded even further, next week against Spurs.. the 30 minutes I watched at the weekend was dreadful, not unlike a lot of games this season. Its got that bad now my dad doesnt bother to watch them live, prefering match of the day, he's been watching them since the mid 50's and its been too many poor games that have slipped away, negitive play also! He prefers the highlights (limited) rather the whole game..

There is a league winning team there, maybe MS is right but I can't see Klopp coming to Utd TBH and he's about the best out there along with Pep
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2016/17 6th

Manchester United currently second in the table with a game in hand and with five games to play already have more points secured than any of the last 4 seasons. If they improve further next season they should challenge for the title.

I was hoping for the second season Improvement that good managers generally bring, albeit City have blown everyone away they have underperformed to an extent and Bristol city and Sevilla have put Utd out of 2 cup competitions. Will all be forgiven should Utd win the FA Cup and stay second?
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« Reply #43684 on: April 16, 2018, 04:25:20 PM »
Are Liverpool really any nearer to winning the league than United? United are criticised by nearly every pundit yet if they win their game in hand they'll be 4 points clear of Liverpool. Their squad has very little depth and will likely loose Can this summer to make matters worse. If any of the front 3 got injured they'd be in big trouble. They probably need 4 or 5 quality players to win a title and not convinced they'll get them this summer. Win the CL and Klopp will get a free ride for a few years though and probably deservedly so.

Only time will tell but I do think there's a lot more to come from United. We've tended to have some very good halfs of football this season against the top teams in the league which is an improvement on last season. I think we've got huge issues at fullback, they've both got slower as the season has gone on; Replace them and we'll see a difference. We need a centre half and a centre mid too, ideally we need a right sided attacking player but don't see one coming in unless Martial is sold.


With the greatest respect though Liverpool have not won the league in almost 30 years and are operating off a much lower budget. They haven't spent near the money United have. To be no closer to winning the league than them must be classed as a failure. I don't mean any disrespect to Liverpool in that by the way....and they may indeed win a league before United do. Especially if there's no managerial changes in wither club.

Any names of players who'd improve United?

Neither did Leicester...

Utd (Jose) needs to assess his best team and get everyone fit, the season has been a disaster and will be compounded even further, next week against Spurs.. the 30 minutes I watched at the weekend was dreadful, not unlike a lot of games this season. Its got that bad now my dad doesnt bother to watch them live, prefering match of the day, he's been watching them since the mid 50's and its been too many poor games that have slipped away, negitive play also! He prefers the highlights (limited) rather the whole game..

There is a league winning team there, maybe MS is right but I can't see Klopp coming to Utd TBH and he's about the best out there along with Pep
A timely reminder where Manchester United have come from.

2013/14 7th
2014/15 4th
2015/16 5th
2016/17 6th

Manchester United currently second in the table with a game in hand and with five games to play already have more points secured than any of the last 4 seasons. If they improve further next season they should challenge for the title.

I was hoping for the second season Improvement that good managers generally bring, albeit City have blown everyone away they have underperformed to an extent and Bristol city and Sevilla have put Utd out of 2 cup competitions. Will all be forgiven should Utd win the FA Cup and stay second?

2nd and an FA cup win would have to be considered a decent season given the last few. All be it by playing football that is not that pleasing to the eye.

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« Reply #43685 on: April 16, 2018, 04:26:11 PM »
Are Liverpool really any nearer to winning the league than United? United are criticised by nearly every pundit yet if they win their game in hand they'll be 4 points clear of Liverpool. Their squad has very little depth and will likely loose Can this summer to make matters worse. If any of the front 3 got injured they'd be in big trouble. They probably need 4 or 5 quality players to win a title and not convinced they'll get them this summer. Win the CL and Klopp will get a free ride for a few years though and probably deservedly so.

Only time will tell but I do think there's a lot more to come from United. We've tended to have some very good halfs of football this season against the top teams in the league which is an improvement on last season. I think we've got huge issues at fullback, they've both got slower as the season has gone on; Replace them and we'll see a difference. We need a centre half and a centre mid too, ideally we need a right sided attacking player but don't see one coming in unless Martial is sold.


With the greatest respect though Liverpool have not won the league in almost 30 years and are operating off a much lower budget. They haven't spent near the money United have. To be no closer to winning the league than them must be classed as a failure. I don't mean any disrespect to Liverpool in that by the way....and they may indeed win a league before United do. Especially if there's no managerial changes in wither club.

Any names of players who'd improve United?

Neither did Leicester...

Utd (Jose) needs to assess his best team and get everyone fit, the season has been a disaster and will be compounded even further, next week against Spurs.. the 30 minutes I watched at the weekend was dreadful, not unlike a lot of games this season. Its got that bad now my dad doesnt bother to watch them live, prefering match of the day, he's been watching them since the mid 50's and its been too many poor games that have slipped away, negitive play also! He prefers the highlights (limited) rather the whole game..

There is a league winning team there, maybe MS is right but I can't see Klopp coming to Utd TBH and he's about the best out there along with Pep
A timely reminder where Manchester United have come from.

2013/14 7th
2014/15 4th
2015/16 5th
2016/17 6th

Manchester United currently second in the table with a game in hand and with five games to play already have more points secured than any of the last 4 seasons. If they improve further next season they should challenge for the title.

I was hoping for the second season Improvement that good managers generally bring, albeit City have blown everyone away they have underperformed to an extent and Bristol city and Sevilla have put Utd out of 2 cup competitions. Will all be forgiven should Utd win the FA Cup and stay second?
Second season has brought improvement even though that isn't enough for some supporters. Think of Arsenal right now who won't be finishing in the top 4 and need to win the Europa league to reach next seasons Champions league, that's where Manchester United were this time last season.

A FA Cup win would make up for the cup upset against Bristol City. Losing to Sevilla was a season low point however Bayern Munich would have knocked them out in the next round anyway.

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« Reply #43686 on: April 16, 2018, 04:41:45 PM »
Possibly, but would have liked to have seen Utd take on Bayern, who are no great shakes, they aint the Bayern of old
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« Reply #43687 on: April 16, 2018, 04:44:19 PM »
Are Liverpool really any nearer to winning the league than United? United are criticised by nearly every pundit yet if they win their game in hand they'll be 4 points clear of Liverpool. Their squad has very little depth and will likely loose Can this summer to make matters worse. If any of the front 3 got injured they'd be in big trouble. They probably need 4 or 5 quality players to win a title and not convinced they'll get them this summer. Win the CL and Klopp will get a free ride for a few years though and probably deservedly so.

Only time will tell but I do think there's a lot more to come from United. We've tended to have some very good halfs of football this season against the top teams in the league which is an improvement on last season. I think we've got huge issues at fullback, they've both got slower as the season has gone on; Replace them and we'll see a difference. We need a centre half and a centre mid too, ideally we need a right sided attacking player but don't see one coming in unless Martial is sold.


With the greatest respect though Liverpool have not won the league in almost 30 years and are operating off a much lower budget. They haven't spent near the money United have. To be no closer to winning the league than them must be classed as a failure. I don't mean any disrespect to Liverpool in that by the way....and they may indeed win a league before United do. Especially if there's no managerial changes in wither club.

Any names of players who'd improve United?

Neither did Leicester...

Utd (Jose) needs to assess his best team and get everyone fit, the season has been a disaster and will be compounded even further, next week against Spurs.. the 30 minutes I watched at the weekend was dreadful, not unlike a lot of games this season. Its got that bad now my dad doesnt bother to watch them live, prefering match of the day, he's been watching them since the mid 50's and its been too many poor games that have slipped away, negitive play also! He prefers the highlights (limited) rather the whole game..

There is a league winning team there, maybe MS is right but I can't see Klopp coming to Utd TBH and he's about the best out there along with Pep
A timely reminder where Manchester United have come from.

2013/14 7th
2014/15 4th
2015/16 5th
2016/17 6th

Manchester United currently second in the table with a game in hand and with five games to play already have more points secured than any of the last 4 seasons. If they improve further next season they should challenge for the title.

I was hoping for the second season Improvement that good managers generally bring, albeit City have blown everyone away they have underperformed to an extent and Bristol city and Sevilla have put Utd out of 2 cup competitions. Will all be forgiven should Utd win the FA Cup and stay second?

2nd and an FA cup win would have to be considered a decent season given the last few. All be it by playing football that is not that pleasing to the eye.

very little soccer at club or national level is in any way pleasing to the eye for a long long time

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« Reply #43688 on: April 16, 2018, 05:28:09 PM »

 Don't think we care about your opinion. Go back to your Scouse thread.

It seems quite a few do care

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« Reply #43689 on: April 17, 2018, 09:27:01 AM »
Possibly, but would have liked to have seen Utd take on Bayern, who are no great shakes, they aint the Bayern of old

Thats the biggest complaint I have this season, losing at home to Sevilla wasn't good enough and shouldn't have happened. This is the worst Bayern team in a long time, their reliant on 34 & 35 year old wingers; Given the players Uniteds have and that we'd have ended up playing Bayern a semi final was a real possibility, very disappointing losing at home to Sevilla.

I do think looking at this team's league performances since Fergie left and how we've only made top 4 once in the previous 4 seasons then perhaps I was been too optimistic.

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« Reply #43690 on: April 17, 2018, 09:29:24 AM »
Possibly, but would have liked to have seen Utd take on Bayern, who are no great shakes, they aint the Bayern of old

Thats the biggest complaint I have this season, losing at home to Sevilla wasn't good enough and shouldn't have happened. This is the worst Bayern team in a long time, their reliant on 34 & 35 year old wingers; Given the players Uniteds have and that we'd have ended up playing Bayern a semi final was a real possibility, very disappointing losing at home to Sevilla.


Absolutely agree. Losing to Sevilla was a shambles and primarily due to tactics and the manager. My belief is that this will not change no matter how many more good players he signs.

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« Reply #43691 on: April 18, 2018, 11:56:31 AM »
So the latest rumours are that Pogba's agent is shopping him to PSG and Mourinho is happy to let him go. The same Mourinho who thought Pogba was one of the best players in the world a few months ago.

This man hasn't a clue what he's doing folks.

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« Reply #43692 on: April 18, 2018, 12:32:23 PM »
So the latest rumours are that Pogba's agent is shopping him to PSG and Mourinho is happy to let him go. The same Mourinho who thought Pogba was one of the best players in the world a few months ago.

This man hasn't a clue what he's doing folks.

Nor do you, when you have managed a number of teams to success in this game at the highest level feel free to think you can say 'he hasn't a clue what he's doing' You complaint when he throws players under the bus and then when he strokes their ego. FFS make your mind up.
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« Reply #43693 on: April 18, 2018, 01:29:48 PM »
So the latest rumours are that Pogba's agent is shopping him to PSG and Mourinho is happy to let him go. The same Mourinho who thought Pogba was one of the best players in the world a few months ago.

This man hasn't a clue what he's doing folks.

Nor do you, when you have managed a number of teams to success in this game at the highest level feel free to think you can say 'he hasn't a clue what he's doing' You complaint when he throws players under the bus and then when he strokes their ego. FFS make your mind up.


I know what I'm doing in my job I can tell you that. Unless of course your argument is that no one should comment on something they haven't already done themselves which would of course be completely laughable and ridiculous.

The ego he stroked the most is now who he's throwing under the bus. He has thrown several young players under the bus. It's about time people realised that maybe it's not the players. The club have financially back him to the hilt.

Louis Van Gaal had managed numerous teams to success at the highest levels yet he wasn't able to get it done at United. Past performance is no guarantee of future success.

Make my mind up? My mind was made up long before this appointment was made. As I said then and I'm even surer now, history will prove me correct.

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« Reply #43694 on: April 18, 2018, 02:10:29 PM »
David de Gea has made it onto the PFA Premier League Team of the Year for the fourth year in a row, and fifth time in six years.

On Pogba i'd question how much of say Mourinho had in that signing? luxury players like that weren't in his Chelsea,Inter Milan or Real Madrid teams.