Cluiche Ceannais Laighean 2017, Cill Dara v Áth Cliath

[Dinny Breen]

Kildare will do far better than some of the doom merchants want us to believe. Jesus, we've few enough games worth watching if a big Kildare crowd can't drive the 30 to 60 minute drive to see how their boys get on then I don't know what to say. You've a good developing team so get behind them and see where you end up.

Zulu, the Leinster SFC is dead, Dublin fans and their we'd love to travel if only has proven to be BS, the most successful county in the country could barely half-fill O'Moore Park, less than an hour by car or train down the road, what do you say to that?

I rarely miss a Kildare game but I will miss the Leinster Final (France holiday) but for me to bring my family and kids to Tullamore was less than €50, this goes up by €30, in Tullamore they can bring a ball, have a kick around, play on the pitch, meet the players, have fun!!! A fantastic family day less that an hour away for €50, now you compare that to the CP experience, you pay more for tickets, for food, for worse seats, can't have a kick around, can't get to meet the players can't bring a back pack in, after the whole day you are a €150 less off and you watch Kildare lose (that is what every pudit will tell us between now and July 16th).


So why would the casual fan travel, Wexford fans are traveling because they believe they have a chance, everyone is telling them they have a chance, hurling is different it's romantic, it's beautiful, it's positive. We've had a really good football championship this year so far really good we should have all been talking about Down/Monaghan, a proper game with border line physicality, great scores, great atmosphere, bodies on the line, instead we're talking about Connolly's good name, a "B" Championship, Pat "fuckin" Spillane and Dessie "Jesus" Dolan. 

The GAA and their insane development policies have killed Leinster, what has this development money really done for the GAA apart from make a strong Dublin stronger, has it increased participation rates? Has it increased the number of clubs in Dublin? Has it reduced the adult drop-off rate, the GAA is worse than soccer and even rugby? So can anyone tell me what has all this money done for the greater good of the GAA apart from the imbalance that we currently witness. I would love to see concrete evidence, not anecdotal proper ERSI, Irish Census analysis.

Dinny, if I take your point that it's impossible for Kildare to be as good as Dublin, can I ask a follow up question?

Is it possible for Kildare to be as good as Mayo, Tyrone and Donegal?
And what's the reason for being so far behind those counties for the last 5 years or so (since the extra time defeat to Donegal that time)?
Is that Dublin's fault too?

What are you talking about? I have never once blamed Dublin, I blame the GAA for creating a Monster the GAA enabled this monopoly. I have been consistent for the last 5 years or more on this. Any someday a Dublin fan will take off their blinkers and say you know what Dinny you are right we do have far too many inorganic advantages and this isn't good for the game.

[The Hill is Blue]

Kildare will do far better than some of the doom merchants want us to believe. Jesus, we've few enough games worth watching if a big Kildare crowd can't drive the 30 to 60 minute drive to see how their boys get on then I don't know what to say. You've a good developing team so get behind them and see where you end up.

Zulu, the Leinster SFC is dead, Dublin fans and their we'd love to travel if only has proven to be BS, the most successful county in the country could barely half-fill O'Moore Park, less than an hour by car or train down the road, what do you say to that?

I rarely miss a Kildare game but I will miss the Leinster Final (France holiday) but for me to bring my family and kids to Tullamore was less than €50, this goes up by €30, in Tullamore they can bring a ball, have a kick around, play on the pitch, meet the players, have fun!!! A fantastic family day less that an hour away for €50, now you compare that to the CP experience, you pay more for tickets, for food, for worse seats, can't have a kick around, can't get to meet the players can't bring a back pack in, after the whole day you are a €150 less off and you watch Kildare lose (that is what every pudit will tell us between now and July 16th).


So why would the casual fan travel, Wexford fans are traveling because they believe they have a chance, everyone is telling them they have a chance, hurling is different it's romantic, it's beautiful, it's positive. We've had a really good football championship this year so far really good we should have all been talking about Down/Monaghan, a proper game with border line physicality, great scores, great atmosphere, bodies on the line, instead we're talking about Connolly's good name, a "B" Championship, Pat "fuckin" Spillane and Dessie "Jesus" Dolan. 

The GAA and their insane development policies have killed Leinster, what has this development money really done for the GAA apart from make a strong Dublin stronger, has it increased participation rates? Has it increased the number of clubs in Dublin? Has it reduced the adult drop-off rate, the GAA is worse than soccer and even rugby? So can anyone tell me what has all this money done for the greater good of the GAA apart from the imbalance that we currently witness. I would love to see concrete evidence, not anecdotal proper ERSI, Irish Census analysis.

Dinny, if I take your point that it's impossible for Kildare to be as good as Dublin, can I ask a follow up question?

Is it possible for Kildare to be as good as Mayo, Tyrone and Donegal?
And what's the reason for being so far behind those counties for the last 5 years or so (since the extra time defeat to Donegal that time)?
Is that Dublin's fault too?

What are you talking about? I have never once blamed Dublin, I blame the GAA for creating a Monster the GAA enabled this monopoly. I have been consistent for the last 5 years or more on this. Any someday a Dublin fan will take off their blinkers and say you know what Dinny you are right we do have far too many inorganic advantages and this isn't good for the game.

It's still a good question though - why can't Kildare match Mayo, Donegal et al?

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

We were generally at that level in McGeeney's years, even his last game we were unlucky to have McQuillan in charge against Tyrone, we generally had the beating of Mayo and Donegal (not to mention 2011 championship) in the league too. Just shy on luck in those years and to be fair he went all out on bringing through the young lads in 2013.

Jason Ryan set us back a very long way but with the good underage teams maturing now and a decent manager in charge we are going in the right direction again.

Even last year against Mayo, granted we lost by 9 points but were very competitive throughout apart from a 5 minute period before half time where they conceded 2 goals. The team has improved a lot since.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

Laois being well beat by Clare doesn't frank our form either though.

[twohands!!!]

Laois being well beat by Clare doesn't frank our form either though.

Very true.

Laois relegated to Division 4, beat Longford but conceded 0-16 points to them and got goals at the best time possible, scored 1-7 against Kildare and have only scored 6 points from play against Clare.

What Laois have conceded in the championship in their 3 games
Longford 0-16
Kildare 1-21
Clare 2-18

During the league they were conceding an average of 18.57 points against Division 3 opposition.

How Meath get on against Sligo will probably shed further light on matters.

[heffo]

I used to follow Kildare - including close to 600 mile round trips. I have genuinely lost interest since the financial doping came to light. I'll watch the GAA on TV.

Are you talking about the glory years or 2008-2013?

Throw in they won Leinster in 1998/2000 with Brian Murphy, Brian Lacey and Karl O'Dywer all imported in with the legendary Mick O'Dwyer

We're all still paying for that bailout when Kildare ran the most expensive setup in the country.

How is that relevant?

Heffo has made assertions about Kildare being the most expensive set up. I asked him to send me a link to prove same. Surprise surprise he doesn't respond. Why? Because its not true. No matter what his colleagues in the DCB tell him.

Why? I was offline yesterday playing golf and on the piss!

I've posted the link many times, would you like me to post it again?

That's just the declared cost too..

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

I'd be interested in seeing that too, I'm sure I would have heard about it before and google is no use.

[Donnellys Hollow]

Throw in they won Leinster in 1998/2000 with Brian Murphy, Brian Lacey and Karl O'Dywer all imported in with the legendary Mick O'Dwyer

Brian was living in Kildare for five years before he played for Kildare.

Jason Ryan

Kildare panel under Jason Ryan were eating post match meals off paper plates in dressing rooms and staying in hostels. McGeeney's Maor Uisce was made a selector! Hardly indicates a no expenses spared setup.

Niall Carew

Why would Niall Carew have cost the Kildare county board anything?

I believe was getting 250k per annum in the nineties.

Dwyer? The Sheikh took care of that.

[mup]

I used to follow Kildare - including close to 600 mile round trips. I have genuinely lost interest since the financial doping came to light. I'll watch the GAA on TV.

Are you talking about the glory years or 2008-2013?

Throw in they won Leinster in 1998/2000 with Brian Murphy, Brian Lacey and Karl O'Dywer all imported in with the legendary Mick O'Dwyer

We're all still paying for that bailout when Kildare ran the most expensive setup in the country.

How is that relevant?

Heffo has made assertions about Kildare being the most expensive set up. I asked him to send me a link to prove same. Surprise surprise he doesn't respond. Why? Because its not true. No matter what his colleagues in the DCB tell him.

Why? I was offline yesterday playing golf and on the piss!

I've posted the link many times, would you like me to post it again?

That's just the declared cost too..

Yes Id like to see those figures. I presume all the other figures are the real ones and Kildares are just the ones they declared.

Link away.

[The Hill is Blue]

Kildare's line of form through Laois and Meath is not looking so strong after this weekend's games.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

Kildare's line of form through Laois and Meath is not looking so strong after this weekend's games.

This harms our chances of getting within 10 points sure, but we will still try to enjoy he occasion and hope the lads put in a big performance.

Paul Cribbin and Ben McCormack are back in training coupled with Neil Flynn being back fully fit means that Cian O'Neill will have some serious selection headaches up front.

[Declan]

New half forward to replace Dermo for Sunday

[seafoid]

Kildare are 9/1 with Paddy Power v Dublin.
I think they will the Dubs a good rattle. The Dubs have been on the go a good while.

[Rossfan]

Put €10 on Kildare so Seafóid.
Result Bookie +€10 Seaf -€10.

[seafoid]

Put €10 on Kildare so Seafóid.
Result Bookie +€10 Seaf -€10.

Its not like financial markets Rossfan. Bookies price a 9 point win. You cant short that and go for 4.