We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Works both ways. Aidan seems to like the media aspect and being in the public eye, so he can't whinge too much about it. In general I don't think the media go too hard on our players. It's too small a country/demographic for that.
I actually noticed this myself today, Bernard Flynn having a go and it was a total rehash of a Tomas O'Se article.
Maybe it'll be good motivation for him. If he throws a tantrum it sorta backs up their point about attitude. He's between a rock & a hard place with this one.
This is not a case of a journalist having an opinion for better or for worse about a player, for what the player does on the field of play.
This is a case of a bad journalist with an agenda, putting a scornful cynical take on Aiden O'Shea spending time with kids,
O'Shea in selfie shocker while team mates huddle, --- therefore it proves he's not a team player, he just does what he wants ::)
There's definitely a few lads that the media are hard on. The piece about the selfie is pathetic.
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
In fairness Keegan comes across well. AOS effectively took over management of the Mayo senior team at the ripe old age of 25 - that one wasn't going to pass by unnoticed.
On the pitch alone, however, it is fair comment to say he's flattered to deceive at times. Playing at 14 and 11 where his shooting is no where near good enough, nor his work-rate at 11, wastes his talent as a midfielder. Ironically I'd also say Murphy is over-hyped too, but his problem is the opposite, that he wanders way too far from goal most of the time.
It should be noted these are the same outlets that hyped him up not so long ago, the pendulum swings both ways.
I don't really see whats wrong with the O'Se article
It's far game lads. O'Shea hasn't produced when it has counted. We have a GAA media culture of saying nothing and it's dull and boring in the extreme. Why oh why do the media want to interview Jim Gavin time and time again is beyond me. He's so dull that he's almost condescending.
Taking a selfie is #4 on the list of 'The top 10 least manly things you can do'.
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Youre not a fan. I can tell
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Youre not a fan. I can tell
For a guy who thrives on and makes the most out of his GAA profile, free cars, advertisements etc - I don't think he can have many complaints when he gets some blowback when he acts out of line like he did in ousting the Mayo management because they had the temerity to put him in check regarding his duties or with his complete denial of any wrongdoing against Fermanagh last year when he clear as day cheated to put them out of the Championship.
If O'Shea was a really serious footballer, he'd keep his head down and focus on his football. Nobody is begrudging him what he's doing but if he isn't backing it up on the pitch as he has the ability to do then I think the criticism is fair, particularly when you see all the perks his profile earns him.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Hey Richard Spencer calm down life is too short , https://youtu.be/hVI6sOuU-qM !!!
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Youre not a fan. I can tell
For a guy who thrives on and makes the most out of his GAA profile, free cars, advertisements etc - I don't think he can have many complaints when he gets some blowback when he acts out of line like he did in ousting the Mayo management because they had the temerity to put him in check regarding his duties or with his complete denial of any wrongdoing against Fermanagh last year when he clear as day cheated to put them out of the Championship.
If O'Shea was a really serious footballer, he'd keep his head down and focus on his football. Nobody is begrudging him what he's doing but if he isn't backing it up on the pitch as he has the ability to do then I think the criticism is fair, particularly when you see all the perks his profile earns him.
Congratulations!
That is definitely the longest and most incomprehensible sentence I have ever come across. Enda Kenny would be looking over his shoulder if he knew you were knocking about. ;D
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
Quote from: Lar Naparka on May 18, 2017, 06:32:38 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 06:25:08 PM
Quote from: quit yo jibbajabba on May 18, 2017, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Youre not a fan. I can tell
For a guy who thrives on and makes the most out of his GAA profile, free cars, advertisements etc - I don't think he can have many complaints when he gets some blowback when he acts out of line like he did in ousting the Mayo management because they had the temerity to put him in check regarding his duties or with his complete denial of any wrongdoing against Fermanagh last year when he clear as day cheated to put them out of the Championship.
If O'Shea was a really serious footballer, he'd keep his head down and focus on his football. Nobody is begrudging him what he's doing but if he isn't backing it up on the pitch as he has the ability to do then I think the criticism is fair, particularly when you see all the perks his profile earns him.
Congratulations!
That is definitely the longest and most incomprehensible sentence I have ever come across. Enda Kenny would be looking over his shoulder if he knew you were knocking about. ;D
It may be long but it hits a few home truths and maybe that's why you find it incomprehensible.
Mayo - the land that introspection forgot.
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
Where did he get this free car you are on about?
Quote from: Crete Boom on May 18, 2017, 07:33:14 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
Where did he get this free car you are on about?
A quick Google search will point you here.
https://www.facebook.com/AudiBallinaAudiSligo/posts/938719849496901
Or here.
http://www.carzone.ie/news/GAA-Stars-Cars-newsitem1460.html
I know there are links to various articles but I doubt it's a media-driven assault. The problem at this time of year is that we are gearing up for action but have no action so an amount of shite is written.
O'Shea is in the category of a few major lads who get the deals, like James O'Donoghue for example. Bernard Brogan has been arguably the highest profile of all and he has never seemingly suffered an attack, and that's mainly because he has All Irelands in his arse pocket (it's where everyone keeps them!) and he never gets drawn on anything he doesn't want to talk about.
It's silly season and O'Shea and Mayo fans need to realise this. In the current media this is lighting up Twitter which in turn brings more online articles.
It all feeds into the next piece of click-bait and his own fans drive it all along.
Wow I am truly humbled and shocked Bomber that something you typed is true.!! Touché I am bested in this case
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
I agree with bomber. Never thought I'd be typing that sentence
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
I agree with bomber. Never thought I'd be typing that sentence
I think everyone will eventually have that Damascus moment with me and see that I was right all along.
Aiden O'Shea spends a good time with 15 or 20 deprived kids, shooting the breeze, getting photos taken, signing autographs and transforms an ordinary day into something memorable and very special for them after they came to watch a low profile friendly. And you have dawgobs literally calling him a pedophile.
What? Who called him a 'pedophile'? And how were the kids deprived?
Edit, I agree, there's not a lot wrong in what he did. Our GAA lads are generally excellent with Kids on the field after games, and it's one of the great things about our lads. I wouldn't be slating him for that.
I'm afraid I have to agree with much of what both Ó'Se and Flynn have written.
What Flynn had to say about him posing for selfies with childish to say the least but this piece isn't:
"Last year. If the truth be known, if he'd played anyway well to form over the two games against Dublin Mayo would have been All-Ireland champions. That's the big frustration. He hasn't really done it....He hasn't done what he's supposed to do considering the calibre of player he is."
I can't disagree with any of that.
I'm not too gone on the bould Tomás either but I see nothing wrong with this:
"If it sounds like I'm being hard on O'Shea, it's only because I believe he can be THE man for Mayo.
......................
It's probably a small enough thing that could get Mayo over the line and, given his potential, even a five per cent improvement from O'Shea might be enough."
I can't see anything wrong with any of the above.
Remember the QF against Donegal in 2013? He hasn't reproduced that form in any game since then. Maybe this will be his year......
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
I agree with bomber. Never thought I'd be typing that sentence
I think everyone will eventually have that Damascus moment with me and see that I was right all along.
If Saint Paul was a Tyrone man, he would have been booked for diving.
(http://www.howgodprovides.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/story-of-Saul-600x300.jpg)
It's going to be difficult for Aidan to pick the team for Sunday with all this media intrusion.
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2017, 11:47:39 PM
It's going to be difficult for Aidan to pick the team for Sunday with all this media intrusion.
Thats a good one Itchy. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
One fundamental point for all reasonable people out there.
Why in the gaa is having a media profile and performing to the maximum of your ability seen as mutually exclusive? When was this proven?
What about everything else going on in a lads life like their job, their wife, the kids, the mortgage - these would surely be far bigger factors in impacting a players performance than a few hours with aib talking rubbish.
There's just something here I feel that lads are missing and want to pin on someone they feel who's profile is higher than their accomplishments at this point in their career. Don't let him get too big for his boots brigade.
There's nothing that says you can't have a media profile and play to the best of your ability, unless said media engagements are causing to be tired, miss training, eat poorly etc. But it can be managed.
However, in the event that a media prominent player is NOT perceived as playing to his potential, all those factors will be questioned, plus there's the natural 'He'd be better off training than shooting his mouth off'.
In Aidan O'Shea's case, he does have a big media profile, and has never really delivered for Mayo when they needed him most, so it's going to be harder for him.
Quote from: Jinxy on May 18, 2017, 05:48:09 PM
Taking a selfie is #4 on the list of 'The top 10 least manly things you can do'.
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I don't know never did the Kildare panel any harm
Quote from: Mayo Border on May 19, 2017, 12:21:07 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 18, 2017, 11:47:39 PM
It's going to be difficult for Aidan to pick the team for Sunday with all this media intrusion.
Thats a good one Itchy. Did you come up with that one all by yourself?
No I had a team working on it, Aidan picked that team too.
Ciaran Whelan article only underlines that his credibility as a serious and unbiased pundit has been overstated. Look at the difference in tone and attitude between the Mayo section and even the very first line of the Dublin section. Factor in, both teams lost the game in question by one point, or 'the width of a post' as he says, and it is actually cringe worthy.
For the sake of his own career as a pundit, he should leave spinning Gavin's propaganda to the likes of curran, because he is doing his career a serious disservice. Once you go down that route, it is very hard to come back, because people just wont take you seriously. He had potential, but now he has become a David Brady, a Brendan Devanney, a Charlie Redmond, and pundits like that are ten a penny.
Where's the whelan artocle
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 19, 2017, 02:30:25 PM
Where's the whelan artocle
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ciaran-whelan-there-is-a-huge-wave-of-fear-coming-from-mayo-and-kerry-need-a-lot-of-things-to-fall-their-way-35731256.html
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
There's nothing that says you can't have a media profile and play to the best of your ability, unless said media engagements are causing to be tired, miss training, eat poorly etc. But it can be managed.
However, in the event that a media prominent player is NOT perceived as playing to his potential, all those factors will be questioned, plus there's the natural 'He'd be better off training than shooting his mouth off'.
In Aidan O'Shea's case, he does have a big media profile, and has never really delivered for Mayo when they needed him most, so it's going to be harder for him.
I hear what you're saying but it's all just perception. You can't be seen to have a media profile and not win all irelands even though it has no direct consequence on performance - in fact some lads thrive in it. These media duties are perceived to be taking time away from AOS playing better football. It's total rubbish.
There's lads out there playing inter county who aren't half as committed to improving their games as AOS has been through the years yet because he has a media profile he's the one crucified.
Listen I'm a Galway man and would like nothing more than to stick the knife into a mayo man but this is just rubbish.
Surely people realise there are other inter county players out there who like a pint, or miss training for no reason. Don't mind what the commitment to improving yourself as a footballer was like in the pundits time. All this guy does is a few interviews or product launches and he's made an example out of by the real rent a quotes.
It all comes down to this perception out there that he's making a direct binary choice between getting a bag of footballs and practicing with his right foot versus doing a product launch. Which is nonsense when you think about it.
The commitment of the current bunch of IC players at the high level is like nothing we have seen before and these lads like Bernard Flynn or whoever should wise up.
I agree with you :) I'm just saying Media profile makes you an easy target for stuff like this, and so if you want a profile, you have to accept it. Goes with the territory.
And if you have a profile and haven't delivered the big one, then you're double exposed.
Quote from: AQMP on May 19, 2017, 03:09:32 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on May 18, 2017, 11:40:20 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 10:07:42 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on May 18, 2017, 09:44:50 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 07:14:36 PM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 18, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
Quote from: Il Bomber Destro on May 18, 2017, 05:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tubberman on May 18, 2017, 01:12:05 PM
We all remember the Dublin 'campaign' against Lee Keegan last September.
Now the media seems to have decided Aidan O'Shea deserves a kicking. This is just in the past couple of weeks:
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/ (https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2017/0518/876179-aidan-oshea/)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/toms-s-aidan-oshea-not-in-same-league-as-michael-murphy-and-its-high-time-the-mayo-man-delivered-35710139.html)
http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html (http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/martin-breheny-aidan-oshea-has-made-unsubstantiated-allegations-against-the-irish-independent-35678782.html)
Is it really acceptable for the media to seemingly target an amateur sportsman in such a way?
Leaving aside the fact that it's a Mayo player (again), I think it's very unfair to have all this negative stuff written about a young guy who has to live and work like the rest of us and have all his family and colleagues reading this and know they're all talking about it, not to mention the rest of the country.
Correct me if I'm wrong but Aidan O'Shea drives around in a sponsored 50k car due to his profile as a county player. He cheated Fermanagh out of the Championship last year and then to rub salt into the wound patently denied it when it was as obvious as the day was long, he got a free pass from the media on that count. He looks to have played an instrumental part in ousting two good servants of Mayo football in their role of manager which was done appallingly. That's not taking into account him failing to produce the goods when it matters.
I think he is fair game to this kind of commentary.
Aye, get ripped into the hoors. They train or play every night of the week in preparation to entertain the masses, can't eat crisps apparently , have zero social life, and some get a loan of a motor, the loan of a bastardin motor! Never heard the like of it. Give them both barrels I say
Does the average inter county player get a free motor? Not a chance.
O'Shea gets one as he has a big media profile due to his activity in the GAA, he promotes and engages in this profile whenever he can. I think he can have little complaints when some blowback comes when he is acting out of line. I think it's a fair line that people should be asking him to focus more on his game and less on his profile when he's one of their main men and has failed to produce the goods when it really matters.
I agree with bomber. Never thought I'd be typing that sentence
I think everyone will eventually have that Damascus moment with me and see that I was right all along.
If Saint Paul was a Tyrone man, he would have been booked for diving.
(http://www.howgodprovides.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/story-of-Saul-600x300.jpg)
Clear contact between St Paul and thon centurion.
Photoshop fake arm there...
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 02:56:50 PM
And if you have a profile and haven't delivered the big one, then you're double exposed.
I think this is particular true as it can always be thrown up to you time after time what have you won?
Having watched Mugsy this week on Laochra Gael, any time Tyrone won the AI some of their big players performed on the big occasion. Of course there is a lot of pressure on O'Shea since he was a minor but he needs to put in a few big performances and look at how hard Michael Murphy works for his team perhaps.
It's a lot harder nowadays though with the amount of players back in defences.
Quote from: DJGaliv on May 19, 2017, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on May 19, 2017, 10:46:08 AM
There's nothing that says you can't have a media profile and play to the best of your ability, unless said media engagements are causing to be tired, miss training, eat poorly etc. But it can be managed.
However, in the event that a media prominent player is NOT perceived as playing to his potential, all those factors will be questioned, plus there's the natural 'He'd be better off training than shooting his mouth off'.
In Aidan O'Shea's case, he does have a big media profile, and has never really delivered for Mayo when they needed him most, so it's going to be harder for him.
I hear what you're saying but it's all just perception. You can't be seen to have a media profile and not win all irelands even though it has no direct consequence on performance - in fact some lads thrive in it. These media duties are perceived to be taking time away from AOS playing better football. It's total rubbish.
There's lads out there playing inter county who aren't half as committed to improving their games as AOS has been through the years yet because he has a media profile he's the one crucified.
Listen I'm a Galway man and would like nothing more than to stick the knife into a mayo man but this is just rubbish.
Surely people realise there are other inter county players out there who like a pint, or miss training for no reason. Don't mind what the commitment to improving yourself as a footballer was like in the pundits time. All this guy does is a few interviews or product launches and he's made an example out of by the real rent a quotes.
It all comes down to this perception out there that he's making a direct binary choice between getting a bag of footballs and practicing with his right foot versus doing a product launch. Which is nonsense when you think about it.
The commitment of the current bunch of IC players at the high level is like nothing we have seen before and these lads like Bernard Flynn or whoever should wise up.
I agree with some of what you say but that's a strange comment. AOS had problems with his weight in the early years that he improved, but that's fluctuated back the other way too so it's a bit of wash taken overall.
Football-wise, what areas of his game have actually improved since he first hit the 'big' time? Certainly not his tackling or point-scoring? Distribution? He seems as prone to the head-down bullock runs now as when he was first playing for Mayo. It may sound like a joke but the standout improvement might be his new-found willingness to bend his back and dive to the floor to win more frees.
I think he has room to grow but I don't see the overwhelming evidence that it's happened that you do.
He distributed the ball to COC for the equaliser in the replay...
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Taking a selfie is #4 on the list of 'The top 10 least manly things you can do'.
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I don't know never did the Kildare panel any harm
Hang on, that's clearly Conor Mortimer on the right.
Has he moved to Straffan?
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Oh fûck.
He thinks he's safe in Michigan?
The Mayo Mafia has very long arms...
Who gives a flying fu-k what Fergus Connolly thinks.He has no clue how Aiden oShea or any of the other players prepare themselves to play for Mayo.Reading that article you would think the Mayo players are ill disciplined and ill prepared .Coming from some one who has had experience in the prep of inter county teams I hope he was misquoted in that article as it makes him look absolutely clueless
This just demonstrates how unwise Aidan was to engage with the Breheny stuff once it had more or less faded into the background.
The Indo has got some mileage out of him in the last few weeks.
If ge is based in the USA then mire than likely ge was given a sunopsis on what is being talked about here and then asked what he makes of it...
As I said already Brogan has done way more media down the years but never gets grief over it as he has won it all.
Cillian O'Connor is another in Mayo who has Eir and Lucozade gigs but he isnt mentioned because he is perceived as more of a head down man. O'Shea is tied in with players revolt and being too big for his boots.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 21, 2017, 04:30:01 PM
If ge is based in the USA then mire than likely ge was given a sunopsis on what is being talked about here and then asked what he makes of it...
As I said already Brogan has done way more media down the years but never gets grief over it as he has won it all.
Cillian O'Connor is another in Mayo who has Eir and Lucozade gigs but he isnt mentioned because he is perceived as more of a head down man. O'Shea is tied in with players revolt and being too big for his boots.
If you kept up with the revolt you'd know it was driven by the Breaffy and Ballintubber boys, namely the O'Sheas and COC and Dillon. Why O'Shea gets more attention probably has as much to do with the fact he has more inate ability than COC as anything else.
Syferus. I know the deal, but I was talking perception and it is perceived that AOS is the main troublemaker and that gets enforced by the Indo craic.
As I pointed earlier all Twitter is full of jokes and this about his selfies which will in turn mean more articles and it not going away.
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on May 21, 2017, 06:52:48 PM
Syferus. I know the deal, but I was talking perception and it is perceived that AOS is the main troublemaker and that gets enforced by the Indo craic.
As I pointed earlier all Twitter is full of jokes and this about his selfies which will in turn mean more articles and it not going away.
The former management team pretty much affirmed that O'Shea was the main trouble maker.
JOHN FOGARTY: Obsession with Mayo is now a sickness
By John Fogarty
GAA Correspondent
Slamming Mayo is now fashionable and the more outrageous the statement, the better, writes John Fogarty
The Mayo players stand to attention for the national anthem on Sunday. Mayo are an easy target for criticism. Picture: Inpho/James Crombie
Fergus Connolly has a book coming out later this year. That's best to keep in mind when considering the sports science and performance consultant's claim in a Sunday Independent interview Mayo will not win an All-Ireland in his lifetime. When he lambasted Aidan O'Shea for appearing on a TV show because he has yet to win an All-Ireland medal. When he argued a media ban would be the first step to helping Mayo to their elusive goal.
Connolly might argue he would maintain such convictions regardless of his forthcoming publication but then he knows how marketing works too and that Mayo are the easiest of lays. In that regard, he could have been more original but there is an understandable inclination to be in the spotlight as he has something to sell.
A few months prior to Tomás Ó Sé's autobiography two years ago, the former Kerry star levelled Cork, describing them as 'underachievers' and 'untrustworthy'. He might live in Cork but the notoriety cultivated from those comments did his sales little harm.
In a way, such behaviour reminds us of how a GAA president, keen to make a bigger impression with a year to go in office, makes a declaration. In 2011, Christy Cooney flew the kite of the provincial boundaries being redrawn. In November last year, Aogán Farrell said the GAA may in the future need to reconsider the use of the tricolour and the national anthem. Cooney made his remarks in a Congress address but never followed them up. Farrell was answering a question about the meaning of the tricolour and national anthem to non-Irish playing Gaelic games abroad but brought his answer around to the island of Ireland (yet later sought to clarify his comments).
Put simply, each wanted to make headlines.
There was nothing different in what Bernard Flynn's "I'm going to share it — I wasn't going to but I'm going to do it" denigration of O'Shea following his appearance in Mayo's recent challenge game against Meath in Mullingar. The former Meath forward was simply trying to reassert his relevancy. Condemning O'Shea for agreeing to pose for photographs and sign autographs while his team warmed down was indeed as, Flynn initially said on the RTÉ podcast, "a small thing" but he couldn't help himself making it big.
Flynn mentioned he helped organise the challenge game, which took place in his club Mullingar Shamrocks' Springfield pitch. What he neglected to point out was O'Shea was born in Mullingar. His father Jim was a former chairman of the club and was on the Shamrocks team that won two Westmeath senior county championships.
The O'Shea family's connection with the club was not lost on the player and club officials have confirmed to us that his and his team-mates' patience and cooperation with the children was the subject of much positive comment that evening.
Neither did Flynn care to divulge the game was broken up in two 45-minute periods and O'Shea had played the entirety of the first one after which he had joined a team huddle. He appeared in the second period but only for a short time.
It wasn't a surprise that Stephen Rochford took exception to Flynn's comments following Sunday's game. He has a duty of care to his players and protecting their characters should be high on his list of priorities.
In 2011, Jim McGuinness felt compelled to defend his charges in the wake of Pat Spillane "running down" his team after their win over Donegal. A spotlight should be shone Mayo's way but at times it seems it's being done to blind them into crashing again. Mayo have far more reason to be aggrieved with how they are being portrayed than Donegal were. It will be said that they have brought a lot of it upon themselves but much of it is now so tenuous it's laughable.
Connolly is about 40. All things going well, he has at least another 40 of them left. The arguments he sets out for why Mayo won't win an All-Ireland in his lifetime are all short-term explanations. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that slamming Mayo is fashionable and the more outrageous the statement the better.
Connolly criticises O'Shea for doing media work when off O'Shea's back he is doing the very same thing to promote himself. Flynn rebukes O'Shea for being courteous to the kids of his own club to keep himself in the limelight. That's more cynical than Kieran Hughes' black card foul in Clones on Saturday. The actions of the pair are symptomatic of the obsession with Mayo. Just as there is a fixation with success, there is with near-success or failure, term it however you wish.
The slightest shortcoming is magnified to be something it isn't, the merest mistake amplified to ridiculous proportions. Because other than not being good enough on the day, which probably should satisfy us, we can't work Mayo out.
But the words of Connolly and Flynn, following on from others, illustrate that the obsession with Mayo has grown unhealthy. With preposterous declarations and character assassinations, people are making fame off their shame. That says more about those casting aspersions on Mayo than what they think about them.
Haven't been following this, and don't have an opinion on the criticism about the alleged publicity seeking in general, but is Aidan O'Shea really getting criticized for posing for photos with and signing autographs for kids??
I couldn't give a bollocks if it was in his father's native club - why should he get criticized for doing that ANYWHERE?
Kids would be thrilled to meet the likes of him and Michael Murphy and Bernard Brogan and Colm Cooper, all of whom I'm pretty sure stop and pose for pics as well after games.
Like I said earlier it all comes around in a circle over and over. Fogarty is joining in too by writing about Mayo, he is just coming in from a different angle.
As I said it all feeds itself and Mayo seem to have lots of fans who take to Twitter. This is where journalists reside mostly and entire articles online will appear which are in fact a bunch of angry tweets.
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2017, 07:32:07 PM
Haven't been following this, and don't have an opinion on the criticism about the alleged publicity seeking in general, but is Aidan O'Shea really getting criticized for posing for photos with and signing autographs for kids??
I couldn't give a bollocks if it was in his father's native club - why should he get criticized for doing that ANYWHERE?
Kids would be thrilled to meet the likes of him and Michael Murphy and Bernard Brogan and Colm Cooper, all of whom I'm pretty sure stop and pose for pics as well after games.
I think Bernard Flynn is/was the only person in the country to criticise Aidan O'Shea for posing for pics and autographs! But somehow it has now developed into a circus of every tom, dick and harry journalist having their say on Aidan O'Shea and all things Mayo.
Flynn like many ex-players turned journalists/pundits are trying to cause controversy/talk shite to remain relevant and ultimately earn more ££££
A nonsense story with the Mayo fans rightly taking umbrage about the targeting of one of their players.
Imagine if he actually starts a few games this year - some column inches then
Quote from: J70 on May 23, 2017, 07:32:07 PM
Haven't been following this, and don't have an opinion on the criticism about the alleged publicity seeking in general, but is Aidan O'Shea really getting criticized for posing for photos with and signing autographs for kids??
I couldn't give a bollocks if it was in his father's native club - why should he get criticized for doing that ANYWHERE?
Kids would be thrilled to meet the likes of him and Michael Murphy and Bernard Brogan and Colm Cooper, all of whom I'm pretty sure stop and pose for pics as well after games.
their point is that he done it while the rest of his teammates were doing the warm down. Not that that makes it anymore valid
if you had some player walking by all the supporters / kids and signing nothing you be calling him a real ****, yet O`Shea get it in the neck for doing so, go figure.