A question for the over 50s

Started by thewobbler, August 31, 2019, 10:46:09 PM

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thewobbler

I've never had less interest in AI final than tomorrow's occasion. Much as I hope I'm wrong it feels like a foregone conclusion, one in which Dublin will up the tempo for 20 mins and blow Kerry into submission. Plus I have an emptying sense that a healthy group of Dublin's players will talk spend their interviews talking about 6-in-a-row rather than bask in the glory.

I'm a little too young to remember Kerry's dominance.

Was it like this in the early 80s too? Although that Kerry team have subsequently (and rightly) been immortalised in popular culture, match day attendances would suggest that football was at a low ebb in terms of popularity.

Also has anyone the clarity of mind to remember if the press and pundits spent their days complaining about unfair advantages. Or were we not as cynical then?

6th sam

Quote from: thewobbler on August 31, 2019, 10:46:09 PM
I've never had less interest in AI final than tomorrow's occasion. Much as I hope I'm wrong it feels like a foregone conclusion, one in which Dublin will up the tempo for 20 mins and blow Kerry into submission. Plus I have an emptying sense that a healthy group of Dublin's players will talk spend their interviews talking about 6-in-a-row rather than bask in the glory.

I'm a little too young to remember Kerry's dominance.

Was it like this in the early 80s too? Although that Kerry team have subsequently (and rightly) been immortalised in popular culture, match day attendances would suggest that football was at a low ebb in terms of popularity.

Also has anyone the clarity of mind to remember if the press and pundits spent their days complaining about unfair advantages. Or were we not as cynical then?
Similar in that the view was that nobody could get near Kerry .
Offaly would have won a couple extra all-Ireland's in another era.
Like now ,Ulster was well
Out of the picture .
Difference back then was that Kerry didn't have any unfair advantage and though people wanted to see them best as football was getting boring , there was no resentment towards them.
Dublin's problem is that though they need to be congratulated for making the most of their advantages, those financial and population  advantages are too great and people are fed up with the system

Itchy

Thought this was going to be a question about Viagra

screenexile

Quote from: 6th sam on August 31, 2019, 11:12:12 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on August 31, 2019, 10:46:09 PM
I've never had less interest in AI final than tomorrow's occasion. Much as I hope I'm wrong it feels like a foregone conclusion, one in which Dublin will up the tempo for 20 mins and blow Kerry into submission. Plus I have an emptying sense that a healthy group of Dublin's players will talk spend their interviews talking about 6-in-a-row rather than bask in the glory.

I'm a little too young to remember Kerry's dominance.

Was it like this in the early 80s too? Although that Kerry team have subsequently (and rightly) been immortalised in popular culture, match day attendances would suggest that football was at a low ebb in terms of popularity.

Also has anyone the clarity of mind to remember if the press and pundits spent their days complaining about unfair advantages. Or were we not as cynical then?
Similar in that the view was that nobody could get near Kerry .
Offaly would have won a couple extra all-Ireland's in another era.
Like now ,Ulster was well
Out of the picture .
Difference back then was that Kerry didn't have any unfair advantage and though people wanted to see them best as football was getting boring , there was no resentment towards them.
Dublin's problem is that though they need to be congratulated for making the most of their advantages, those financial and population  advantages are too great and people are fed up with the system

Surely the procession through Munster was an unfair advantage?

One plus for the Super 8s is that Kerry now have to play more than one decent side to get to an AISF!

under the bar

Quote from: Itchy on August 31, 2019, 11:17:03 PM
Thought this was going to be a question about Viagra

A hard question?

henrym14

Quote from: under the bar on August 31, 2019, 11:51:28 PM
Quote from: Itchy on August 31, 2019, 11:17:03 PM
Thought this was going to be a question about Viagra

A hard question?

You wont need them tablets thinking about the jackeens all the time.  ;D ;D ;D

Wildweasel74

All I remember was orange gloves, a great kerry team and and Matt Connor.

Jim Bob

Those days you only got seeing 3 games live. The 2 semis and the final.
Also with Micheal o heir commentating made the matches compulsive viewing. You werent saturated with GAA coverage the whole year round so you just enjoyed seeing the games

From the Bunker

Kerry only played 3 games in 1980 to win an AI! Yes 3! So they had their advantages then!

Michael O'Heir was good for the time. But time has shown how limited he really was.  A lot of recycling of catch phrases.

The thing with the Kerry team was there was only a trickle of new blood here and there during their dominance, so the general public were just waiting for that group to get old.

The same can not be said of Dublin.

BennyCake

I wasn't around for o'Hehir's commentaries, but by God, that voice of his was very hard to listen to.

Gmac

Kerry could have got 9 in a row 78-86 they were beaten by a last minute goal in 83 Munster final by cork who drew with Dublin in semi and lost replay so yes they were an exceptional team and hammered most that got in their way

Ball Hopper

Pat Spillane said that a lot of the 1982 team would have retired if they won the 5 in a row. 

They were tired in 1983 and deservedly lost to Cork, even if it was a late minute goal that beat them. 

By 1984, Pat says they were fresh again and won "three  handy titles" (his words), although Monaghan in 1985 semi-final took them to a replay.

At the dinner after the 1980 semi-final victory over Offaly, a team member said in a group conversation that Offaly are the best up and coming championship team and Kerry's next loss would probably be to them.  He was right.

trailer

I'll watch the game but I fallen out of love with The Championship. Good luck to both teams.


J70

I watched a bit of the Seamus Darby game on GAA Go this weekend.

It's shocking how the quality of the football has changed. Even in such a showcase game, featuring all-time elite players, it was all lumping it up the field in the general direction of the forwards, with constant turnovers in possession. No value on possession or accurate passing to a man in space. Not saying the players weren't good - they'd be elite today also having undergone the physical, skills and tactical training modern players do, but the game itself was just so primitive.

playwiththewind1st

It might have been, but people seemed to enjoy it more back then.