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Through Carlow, Hacketstown, Tinahely, Aughrim. Straightforward

Probably. You can go via the M7 to Newbridge. Come off at the Curragh and you're cross country from there...Kilcullen, Dunlavin....Aughrim Nice drive.

Google maps is sending me via Ballitore, Baltinglass, Rathdangan, Aughrim.

I've a mate who lives near the stadium. He's making tea & hang sangidges for any Laois people travelling down.

Totally wrong.  You could not be more wrong. The GAA is run by county boards, then provincial councils and then Croke Park.  It is a bottom up organisation. The prizes for winning the All Ireland have remained the same for over 100 years.  Two silver cups.  Nothing else.  The GAA has honoured its responsibility nationally to get the best commercial opportunities for the association, 87% of which goes back to the counties who really need and value the revenue that they get from this source.  The GAA spends ALL of its coaching and games budget on enjoyment, participation for schoolchildren and clubs and NONE at elite county level.  It is proving virtually impossible to stem the rise in elitism in terms of training and fitness at county level.  This is driven by counties and county managers. In 2010, Paraic Duffy tried to change that, but the counties voted for it and then ignored it. They tried it with the closed season, but counties just ignored it too.  If anyone thinks the DG can change the GAA from an office in CP, then I wouldn't like to be going for his job.

Thanks for that Paraic.

Trying to put out a fire by throwing petrol on it. What his tenure will be most remembered for will be the fact that he oversaw the financial doping of Dublin GAA and fiddled while the GAA burned. He's quibbling over managers doing a job, while pouring money into Dublin, leaving us with a shockingly one-sided Leinster competition and heading that way in the All Ireland.

All teams have cycles, they say, but if Dublin continue to get the benefits not being given to other counties, where's the fair play in that?

Car sponsor indeed. They didn't have a car f**king sponsor when getting beaten by Laois in 2003 or Westmeath in 2004. The Financial Doping will be his legacy. I hope he's proud of it.

[complaining here repeatedly without a solution]

If we're going to have big powerful Dublin winning All Irelands every year due to their population and money you won't have to bother about other County teams as Inter County competition as a National sport will disappear.
You either split Dublin or you forget about County teams at All Ireland level reorganise the National representative competition into say 10 areas of about 500,000 each if you want some kind of equal competition.
Neither of those will happen so then we're left with a load of financial aid to Antrim, Louth, Kildare, Wicklow, Derry, Cork, Donegal Kerry and Mayowestros  to try and keep some of them competitive with Dublin .
As for the rest of us.....may as well take up soccer.

I doubt anyone wants football to be dominated by one team but there's no point in people complaining here repeatedly without a solution or blaming the GAA if there's nothing they can do. I don't buy the doom and gloom personally as both Kerry and Mayo are showing Dublin can be matched. The GAA should help others and let Dublin fund more of their own development but if more counties met the challenge I've no fears for the future. Kildare and Meath for a start can be much better.

OK - let's talk about solutions.

I'll start with centralising all sponsorship. Your business can pick a team to sponsor, but you don't pay the county board. The money goes to Croke Park. AIG can have their logo on Dublin's shirts for a million a year. Joe's Bar ban have theirs on the Rossies' bus for 15K. All the money goes to central funds to be disbursed in somewhat fair proportions.

It's a start.

Agreed. When Dublin won their artificially acquired Leinster hurling titles a few years ago, suddenly the county teams were being described as a product.

The whole Financial Doping thing is a marketing wet dream that has been realised.

We've drifted very far from the 32-county (34) competition which was envisaged from the outset. An amateur organisation, with amateur players, with the exception of a quasi-professional outfit in Dublin. I'd rather have 31 good counties rather than the fubar set-up we have now.

The legacy of Duffy & O'Fearghail+predecessors will be one which created a monster, but refused to admit their mistake.

We should have a socialist outlook and if all counties don't have a chance in winning a provincial title, the GAA is doing something wrong.

Not only should this mistake be corrected, it should be done now. No soft landing. Turn off the Dublin money tap and let the funding across the country find a suitable level. Adopt some version of the NFL model and help the weaker counties most. If the "Dublin plan" is so bloody good, then implement that in every county. Whichever county doesn't do it right, force them to put people in who will, or lose the funding.

how da fuk are we down this low? We wouldn't spit on these teams a few years ago, now we're doing battle with them.

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Quote from: Gmac on October 12, 2017, 04:47:47 PM
would love to see the team sheets from that final anyone got them?

1987 Laois Senior Football Final


Score Portlaoise 3-16 (1-4) Ballylinan 0-5 (0-3)
Wides Portlaoise 8 (4) Ballylinan 4 (3)
45s Portlaoise 5 (2) Ballylinan 0
Frees Portlaoise 19 (11) Ballylinan 23 (12)

Portlaoise
Mick Mulhall
Brian Colgan
John Bohane
Tommy Conroy
Colm Browne
Mark Kavanagh
Liam Duggan
Pat Critchley [0-2]
Karl Lenihan
Gerry Browne
Tom Prendergast [2-2]
James Fahy [0-5]
Seamus Lalor
Joe Keenan [1-1]
Noel Prendergast (c) [0-6]

Ballylinan
Michael Dunne
John Kavanagh
Ted Farrell
John Behan
Declan Mulhare [0-1]
Tim Kavanagh
Eamon Lacey
Gerry Mulhall
James Hovenden
John McDonald [0-1]
Michael Loughman
Seamus Kelly
Enda Condron [0-2]
Enda Kaye
Seamus Kavanagh (c) [0-1]
Subs:
Eamon Doyle for J Kavanagh (33mins)
Des Cooney for M Loughman (37mins)
Jim Lynsky for J McDonald (46mins)

Referee: Seamus Lalor

[Portlaoise]

Paths to that final in 1987:

Portlaoise
Rd1 v The Heath 0-8 1-3
QF v Emo 2-12 1-9
SF v Portarlington 1-8 1-8
SFr v Portarlington 2-13 0-11

Ballylinan
QF v St Josephs 1-5 0-6
SF v Annanough 2-9 0-8

both captains were right corner forwards (at least on paper).

Dublin Buy Another Title Shocker!

Who cares if they do a three-in-a-row? Da Dubs are a Croke Park project and every person sitting at the top table should be ashamed of the manner in which this current funding is continued.

Any GAA person worth their salt would not be happy with the way Dublin are gathering up titles, but then again, we're talking about Cromwell's Cohorts here..........

Also, a (recent?) interview with John Costello stating that Dublin funding will not be reduced in the future. So the Dublin CB are dictating terms to CP?

Who was the last senior team not to bounce back up? Not talking about the yo-yo clubs, but the established teams.

Con O'Callaghan should have been black-carded after his rugby tackle. Andrews - red carded after his tackle, following his yellow.

"Operation Financially Dope & Then Keep Dublin In The Championship" continues.

Man City buy their way into another final. Whoop-dee-doo. Money, money, money. That's why Dublin are where they are and the GAA top brass have a lot to answer for.

Sorry just lost all credibility, have a good day.

Based on what?

Can you tell us why you apparently added 24,000 people to the real membership of St. Vincents GAA club?

Well, so far, it's as valid as your number.

I'm sorry but I don't follow all your posts to comment on what type of posters you are.

6 current players fathers played for Dublin = Natural talent. Most other players come from GAA families.

Fenton was noticed at 19/20 playing junior B football for Raheny, hardly a product of a production line, he never player minor football for Dublin, he played 1 year of U-21. His background was swimming which contributed to his athleticism and his father is from Kerry that contributed to his footballing ability no doubt. This kind off disproves a lot of the financed coaching rubbish spouted by outsiders here.

The old guys didn't come through the system (Cluxton, B.Brogan etc.) as much as the new crop, Costello, Mannion, COC etc. Which im sure might have their own story.

Sound like you have a gripe with the GAA, not Dublin, that's grand.

I have posted here many many times regarding this issue, a lot of so called facts posted by people have turned out to be untrue or factually incorrect and has become tiresome.

I'm convinced. Your vast sample of ONE (Fento) really puts to bed the argument that the €15m+ given to Dublin over the past 12 or so years has ANYTHING to do with Dublin's success.

If it has nothing to do with it, why has Costello stated that it should not be taken away? Surely if you're doing it on your own, as many Dubs claim, then this should be the case??

As for your other comments just rubbish mate and your posting here under a different user name but we know who you are.

Oh yeah? Who? We now know why your username is not TheBrightest.....

I think Dublin getting organised in the fuball is a bit like if England got organised in the rugby. A representative sport with imbalanced populations is very tricky.

Except Rugby is a professional game. The GAA was built on an amateur ethos and while some counties have flirted with professionalism here and there, Dublin

To read some posters say money has nothing to do with it is idiotic and galling. It has a 'let them eat cake' feel to the whole thing. Dublin clubs have GDOs coming out their arses. They pay half the wage and the CB (funded by the GAA ie us) pay the other half.

"The club pays the other half"....St Vincents have a membership of 25,000 or so, which is a little less than the population of Leitrim. Dublin posters act like money had nothing to do with this and that this is because of the "plan". If that was the case, pull the funding now across the board and see where Dublin drift to.

The GAA money started rolling in back about 12-15 years ago. Where were Dublin then? Nowhere. Could barely compete in Leinster ffs. Now they're heading for 8 in a row in Leinster and 3 in a row All Irelands. But money had nothing to do with it.

I know a sizeable club in Meath who has just set about becoming the first Meath club with a GDO. Meath CB refused to look after the other half. I suppose they reckoned they'd soon be looking at a wage bill of €500k-1m if they went down that road.

Posters asking what should be done? Stop funding Dublin. Let them carry their out their great plan without the GAA/sports council money. Start looking at lower level counties and where they are at in terms of football & hurling. Start funding them in an inversely proportional manner to their standing. I'm sure some genius could come up with a logarithm to do the calc.

Dublin have bought their All Ireland titles the same way as Man City have bought their Premiership titles. These period of the GAA could be looked back on as a folly - like the architectural follies you see about, built by men with too much money with a flawed idea on what they wanted. It strikes me too, that the GAA may have painted themselves into a corner. When you have John Costello deciding that the Dublin funding won't stop, things are in a bad place.