The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Arne to Slot right in?

[Turf]

I've always thought Nunez was better coming off the bench, someone to cause a bit of chaos. Saying that he didn't have much impact against Palace last week but even still I think he is someone who is better coming into a game rather than a starter.
Liverpool been very unlucky with Jota missing so many games, probably the closest they have to a natural finisher.
I think they should give a few of the youngsters a game now that the title is gone and top 4 is safe, would like to see more of Danns especially.

[trueblue1234]

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.

[Armamike]

Klopp has left Liverpool in a very strong position compared to where he started.  So that's the ultimate assessment of his contribution.  Changed the culture around the club where the expectation now is the pursuit of excellence on and off the pitch.  There will be regrets over not winning another PL title or another champions league but we know the context around Man City and the PL.  Judge him as well on the finances made available to him compared to other clubs.  Will really miss his infectious personality and sheer presence as will just about all Liverpool fans. He's a one off.

[Milltown Row2]

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

You have to look at what he was up against. He has been up against the monster that is city. Up against a club that financially outstripped its competitors in the PL by so much for the duration of his stint. And he still managed to get a title and run them close in another few. Not to mention the champions league.
Given where Liverpool came from, it was an unreal feat. Look at the status of the club now compared to before he came. There is no comparison. IMO at least.

Been told a lot that Utd have spent more money than City? So which club uses its money wisely would be best to judge?

City have the best manager and Liverpool equally as good a team with less money spent than Utd, but their manager used it wisely and bought players which suited his system of play.

Whereas Utd and Chelsea have spent bucket fulls of money or poor players and a string of managers

[thewobbler]

Chelsea under Boehly has been bizarre.

The template for success is obvious if you look at City, Liverpool and even Arsenal. Get the manager in place. Allow him to place his stamp on the team in terms of playing style and application. Permit him to spend heavily on key areas. Support him in moving along players who don't fit the style or application. Don't try to have two established first choice players for every position, just for specialist positions for his playing style.

But Chelsea took the United route instead. Madness.

[J70]

Maybe he will stand in the centre circle and tell the fans their job now is to support the new manager aka 'the chosen one'.

Klopp is leaving Liverpool far better than he found them. If he had would nothing else apart from the Premier League he would still be considered a legend imo. The fact he won everything there was to win (apart from the Europa League obvs) means he will go down as one of the greatest managers the club has ever had.

Certainly whomever comes in has big boots to fill but they should be given time because it's probably going to take next season at the least to find his feet at such a big club. 

Genuinely intrigued that Liverpool fans will hold him in such high esteem, or maybe is it recency bias? He delivered one league title in 9 years?

I get that he is an iconic figure and was box office and even fans of other teams will miss him from the EPL.

They hadn't won any league titles in the 30 years previous, 1 in 9 isn't bad considering!
I'm actually genuinely intrigued about how someone couldn't see him as anything other than a success at the club but sure each to their own I'm not here to change anyone's opinion on him.
Liverpool fans will hold him in the highest of esteems and probably won't care what any other fans think.

I was just curious, I know he is a bit of a cult figure. Just wondered if looking back it will be with a bit of regret that it was only one title.

That being said United would take a single title at the moment any season.

There is only so much you can do when your resources are limited and those of your opponent are limitless. For example, even if he'd wanted to come, was there a remote prospect that Liverpool could afford the financial package required to attract someone like Erling Haaland? Pep is arguably the greatest coach of the modern era, but would he have done any better at Liverpool than Klopp has done in the circumstances?

From where he started, Klopp resurrected Liverpool in a manner not seen since Shankly. They were arguably the best team in the world in 2019/20, five years after ending a season and Steven Gerrard's PL career with a 1-6 loss to Stoke.

Placed in the context of what he was up against, I'd think there's a good argument to be made that Klopp is Liverpool's second best ever manager after Shankly. Third after Shankly and Paisley is a no-brainer.

And yeah, his personality and charisma helped with the fans, but surely that's also part of why he is so successful as a coach in the first place?

[Armamike]

I would easily have him above Dalglish.

Good point about Liverpool in 2019-2020.  They were the best team in the world, no argument about it.