NFL Division 1 2024

[weareros]

TG4 were incorrect. When Glennon caught the ball he was outside the square (screen grab below). He ran from a square ball position. But this is not soccer, as if he was running from an offside position to impact the play. The square ball rule only applies if the ball goes into the square. It never went into the square when Glennon caught it. There was no square ball rule to apply.

[tyrone86]

TG4 were incorrect. When Glennon caught the ball he was outside the square (screen grab below). He ran from a square ball position. But this is not soccer, as if he was running from an offside position to impact the play. The square ball rule only applies if the ball goes into the square. It never went into the square when Glennon caught it. There was no square ball rule to apply.

Maybe I'm wrong because it was a few years ago but I was always told that it's when the ball was kicked is when you judge a square ball. If he runs out and then in again it's still a square ball?!?

[Rossfan]

Seeing on TV there looked like the Officials got it wrong.
The red card was a reckless dangerous tackle on the Man so 2 wrongs there.
We got what we deserved from a poor performance, especially from 30 minutes onwards.
Tyrone looked like they had the extra man in the 2nd half and we gave them so much time and space.
Then despite our extra man Morgan picked out a free man on the terrace side about 7 times in a row with kick outs.
Loss of 2 coaches from last year telling I wonder?

[weareros]

TG4 were incorrect. When Glennon caught the ball he was outside the square (screen grab below). He ran from a square ball position. But this is not soccer, as if he was running from an offside position to impact the play. The square ball rule only applies if the ball goes into the square. It never went into the square when Glennon caught it. There was no square ball rule to apply.

Maybe I'm wrong because it was a few years ago but I was always told that it's when the ball was kicked is when you judge a square ball. If he runs out and then in again it's still a square ball?!?

True.But the ball has to enter the small rectangle or there's no square ball to judge. It didn't enter it. Andy Glennon caught it outside the small rectangle.

[Tubberman]

Seeing on TV there looked like the Officials got it wrong.
The red card was a reckless dangerous tackle on the Man so 2 wrongs there.
We got what we deserved from a poor performance, especially from 30 minutes onwards.
Tyrone looked like they had the extra man in the 2nd half and we gave them so much time and space.
Then despite our extra man Morgan picked out a free man on the terrace side about 7 times in a row with kick outs.
Loss of 2 coaches from last year telling I wonder?

If it is the changeover in backroom team, there's plenty of time for them to rectify it.

[Main Street]

He threw it into the net never mind the square ball. It wasn't a palm or a fist. Both hands were on the ball and he threw it in

That's the way all passes across the square are finished to the net nowadays.

Normally its a palm into the net at head height or so, as the ball was nearly below the knee it looked like he threw it in rather than palmed it in. Square ball call was tight but as Conn got a ridiculous red card it balanced itself out

Two passes before the finish was a very obvious square ball though. Man receives it deep in the square with his back to goal before it's passed back out and in. It was actually two square balls if the tight one at the end of the play is illegal as well.

RTE have missed it, they're still talking about the final touch. It wasn't for that, it was for the one in the buildup. Tg4 noticed it.

I think RTE proved beyond doubt that it was a legit goal and all present in the studio including Peter C. were agreed on that. But in any event Tyrone would have prevailed and were full value for their victory.

[Wildweasel74]

It's difficult to tell, player never would have got the ball In The first place if he didn't come across the square then out he didn't receive it in the square.

[LeoMc]

The red card was harsh but Kilpatrick gave the red a decision to make
No square ball.

[Duine Inteacht Eile]

The red card was harsh but Kilpatrick gave the red a decision to make
No square ball.

We often hear this trotted out.
A tug on the jersey gives the ref a decision to make.
The wrong decision would be to issue a red card. Just as it is here.

[Mikhailov]

The red card was harsh but Kilpatrick gave the red a decision to make
No square ball.

Yes, he did. The decision should have been yellow

[LeoMc]

It's difficult to tell, player never would have got the ball In The first place if he didn't come across the square then out he didn't receive it on the square.

There is no prohibition on being in the square, only on receiving the ball in the square if certain conditions are met.

[imtommygunn]

Tbh I don't understand how anyone thinks that's a red card. Clumsy and a yellow at best / worst.

The square ball was wrong too. League Sunday showed it up well.

[LeoMc]

The red card was harsh but Kilpatrick gave the red a decision to make
No square ball.

We often hear this trotted out.
A tug on the jersey gives the ref a decision to make.
The wrong decision would be to issue a red card. Just as it is here.

IMO, The tackle was careless, he made contact with the players head, albeit with his chest, and there didn't appear to be any attempt to play the ball. In real time that give the Ref a decision to make.

In rugby it would not even be in doubt as there is an onus on the tackler that is not in our game.

[shawshank]

Somebody tell Leo this isn't rugby. Hope Leo isn't a ref. How anyone could justify that as red is beyond me, outside of having done something in the pushing shoving afterwards.

[trailer]

If Kilpatrick had have been wearing a Dublin or Kerry jersey he would never have been sent off. He probably wouldn't even have received a yellow card. This is the problem with referring. Tyrone never ever get the same decisions as other counties even from the same referees. Croke park absolutely need to step in and fix this two tier refereeing.