2020/21 All Ireland Football Championship

[Angelo]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Look, Dublin have reached the semi final stage every year for the last 10 years or so. The only way a team like Dublin won't reach the semi final is if they are caught on the hop.

In this system, if Dublin are caught on the hop, they are out.
In the super 8 system, Dublin can afford to be caught on the hop twice and still make the semi final stage.

Add to that, they may have more games than teams in other provinces.
The basis of your argument is that they are better than other teams in their province. Being better than other teams is not unfair advantage, it is the aim. As I said, the hows and whys of them being better than other teams can be debated but that's another discussion.

I wouldn't agree.

Winter football, home and away fixtures.

If Dublin had a draw like the following:

Open draw:


R32: Cork (A)
R16: Donegal (A)
QF: Mayo (H)
SF: Monaghan (H)
F: Kerry (H)

An open draw means it is fair for everyone and with no prospect of a backdoor the imbalance of provincials is allowed fester.

The fairest way is an open draw, straight knockout. Div 1 and 2 teams seeded, Div 3 and 4 teams with home advantage.
Losers go into a B Championship which contains 16 teams and is an open draw, again straight knockout.
Winners go into the R16 where it's an open draw with the first team drawn getting home advantage.

That would be fair but it seems that the GAA is banking on a sold out Kerry Dublin final in December.

The fact that Galway get into the last 8 by beating Sligo while one of Tyrone and Donegal are gone at the first hurdle is an absolute joke.

[Eire90]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Look, Dublin have reached the semi final stage every year for the last 10 years or so. The only way a team like Dublin won't reach the semi final is if they are caught on the hop.

In this system, if Dublin are caught on the hop, they are out.
In the super 8 system, Dublin can afford to be caught on the hop twice and still make the semi final stage.

Add to that, they may have more games than teams in other provinces.
The basis of your argument is that they are better than other teams in their province. Being better than other teams is not unfair advantage, it is the aim. As I said, the hows and whys of them being better than other teams can be debated but that's another discussion.

So all in, I can't see how this year will suit Dublin more than any other season. And I can't see why you left Connacht teams out seeing there are only a handful of them and 2 of them are Division 4, more or less.

if there was an open drawn national knockout dublin would be more likely to get a kerry or mayo or donegal before semi final stage.

[straightred]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Look, Dublin have reached the semi final stage every year for the last 10 years or so. The only way a team like Dublin won't reach the semi final is if they are caught on the hop.

In this system, if Dublin are caught on the hop, they are out.
In the super 8 system, Dublin can afford to be caught on the hop twice and still make the semi final stage.

Add to that, they may have more games than teams in other provinces.
The basis of your argument is that they are better than other teams in their province. Being better than other teams is not unfair advantage, it is the aim. As I said, the hows and whys of them being better than other teams can be debated but that's another discussion.

I wouldn't agree.

Winter football, home and away fixtures.

If Dublin had a draw like the following:

Open draw:


R32: Cork (A)
R16: Donegal (A)
QF: Mayo (H)
SF: Monaghan (H)
F: Kerry (H)

An open draw means it is fair for everyone and with no prospect of a backdoor the imbalance of provincials is allowed fester.

The fairest way is an open draw, straight knockout. Div 1 and 2 teams seeded, Div 3 and 4 teams with home advantage.
Losers go into a B Championship which contains 16 teams and is an open draw, against straight knockout.
Winners go into the R16 where it's an open draw with the first team drawn getting home advantage.

That would be fair but it seems that the GAA is banking on a sold out Kerry Dublin final in December.

The fact that Galway get into the last 8 by beating Sligo while one of Tyrone and Donegal are gone at the first hurdle is an absolute joke.

Its even worse for Cavan and Monaghan who play in an Ulster preliminary round.

[Angelo]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Look, Dublin have reached the semi final stage every year for the last 10 years or so. The only way a team like Dublin won't reach the semi final is if they are caught on the hop.

In this system, if Dublin are caught on the hop, they are out.
In the super 8 system, Dublin can afford to be caught on the hop twice and still make the semi final stage.

Add to that, they may have more games than teams in other provinces.
The basis of your argument is that they are better than other teams in their province. Being better than other teams is not unfair advantage, it is the aim. As I said, the hows and whys of them being better than other teams can be debated but that's another discussion.

I wouldn't agree.

Winter football, home and away fixtures.

If Dublin had a draw like the following:

Open draw:


R32: Cork (A)
R16: Donegal (A)
QF: Mayo (H)
SF: Monaghan (H)
F: Kerry (H)

An open draw means it is fair for everyone and with no prospect of a backdoor the imbalance of provincials is allowed fester.

The fairest way is an open draw, straight knockout. Div 1 and 2 teams seeded, Div 3 and 4 teams with home advantage.
Losers go into a B Championship which contains 16 teams and is an open draw, against straight knockout.
Winners go into the R16 where it's an open draw with the first team drawn getting home advantage.

That would be fair but it seems that the GAA is banking on a sold out Kerry Dublin final in December.

The fact that Galway get into the last 8 by beating Sligo while one of Tyrone and Donegal are gone at the first hurdle is an absolute joke.

Its even worse for Cavan and Monaghan who play in an Ulster preliminary round.

There's no doubt about it, the Ulster teams are being royally screwed here.

Ulster teams have been thoroughly discriminated by the Championship structure in the past 30 years. The qualifiers came in the 00s and offered some form of redress but it was only a partial form of it. I have long said that teams from the same province should not be allowed meet in the qualifiers, it should be done in such away that it has to be teams from different provinces facing off until such time as that is not practical and then it should be minimised to the lowest number of all province clashes.

But when the backdoor is taken out, it completely removes the small form of redress there was for the provincial system.

Down have probably came closer to winning an All Ireland in the past 20 years than they have winning an Ulster. Fermanagh and Derry have been in All Ireland semi finals in the past 20 years without winning an Ulster. The qualifiers was a partial bridge to giving these counties some form of redress from the perils of the Ulster championships.

I really hope the individual county boards come out strongly against the proposed plans.

[Eire90]

leinster would not be that bad if their was no dublin lienster has eleven teams so you stiill have to win 3 games to become champions unlike connaght or munster where you some teams only need to win two games

[MayoBuck]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Galway only need to win 4 games to capture the All Ireland and the first one of those is against a Div 4 side who they have beaten in Connacht the previous two years by 13 and 21 points.

Connacht were due to meet Ulster in the semi and Dublin due to meet Kerry in the other. Theyve switched this to make it Leinster v Ulster. Connacht and Ulster counties should be up in arms.

Don't think so. It was Connacht v Munster in 2011, 2014 and 2017 so it's due again this year.

[Eire90]

The positive is the pressure of no second chances might make dublin nervous in leinster championship or could spur them on even more

[Eire90]

Wiki says it was meant to be connaght and ulster champions in group A Munster and Lienster champions in Group B

[Manning18]

Wrong about what?

The reported proposed football Championship just suits Kerry and Dublin

It still suits only Kery and Dublin.
Angelo  sure Galway have been favourites to take over from Dublin every year since 2016
On a serious note will many players opt out of Club and/or County?
Players who work in the Health Service e.g. Mc Caffrey, R Wylie or need to protect vulnerable relatives.

Galway only need to win 4 games to capture the All Ireland and the first one of those is against a Div 4 side who they have beaten in Connacht the previous two years by 13 and 21 points.

Connacht were due to meet Ulster in the semi and Dublin due to meet Kerry in the other. Theyve switched this to make it Leinster v Ulster. Connacht and Ulster counties should be up in arms.

Don't think so. It was Connacht v Munster in 2011, 2014 and 2017 so it's due again this year.

The system got changed in 2018. Connacht met Munster in 2018 S8s. Was in the fixture list that Connacht would meet Ulster this year. Ulster have now met Leinster in 2017, 2018, 2020. Ulster are being royally shafted

[MayoBuck]

The super 8s isn't happening this year. The old format always matched the u21/20 championship. Which had Connacht v Ulster in 2018, Connacht v Leinster last year.

[Captain Obvious]

Good to see the leagues will reach its conclusion. The provincial championships seem a little too rushed when you consider there will be 3 free weekends i think between the provincial finals and All ireland final.

Still touch and go if these games will go ahead, not only the virus to worry about but also the weather. What about next year? Unlikely that NFL start at the end of January.

[seafoid]

All-Ireland finals set for December 13th and 19th as GAA confirm 2020 schedule

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/all-ireland-finals-set-for-december-13th-and-19th-as-gaa-confirm-2020-schedule-1.4289406?mode=amp

[rodney trotter]

No Provincial club championship. Corofin won't get to aim for 4 in a row.

[GalwayBayBoy]

Handy draw for the Dubs. Not that they need the help.

[seafoid]

The state of the pitches in Nov/Dec.
Totally different to now.