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Title: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Itchy on April 28, 2019, 10:13:54 AM
Round 1 games played yesterday

Cavan 2-14 Fermanagh 1-7
Armagh 0-4 Derry 1-5
Donegal 1-8 Tyrone 1-12
Antrim 1-2 Monaghan 0-6

What are some coaches in Ulster at. 6 scores to 4 in one game and 6 scores to 3 in another. Minor was always the beautiful game and it's being ruined.

Anyone know the draw for next round?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Storm Hannah and a finnicky ref  affected the game at Corrigan Park, not the coaches.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Storm Hannah and a finnicky ref  affected the game at Corrigan Park, not the coaches.

Ah now, was storm Hannah only in Corrigan park and it had mostly passed on Saturday anyway. I call BS on that main street.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Storm Hannah and a finnicky ref  affected the game at Corrigan Park, not the coaches.

Ah now, was storm Hannah only in Corrigan park and it had mostly passed on Saturday anyway. I call BS on that main street.
What a reply, an almost total absence of logic, research and evidence. I referred to the factors affecting one game that I had listened to on Northern Sound's live commentary, over and above the sound of the gale force conditions.
You can listen to a short report on the game here,
https://www.northernsound.ie/monaghan-manager-thankful-get-win-antrim/ (https://www.northernsound.ie/monaghan-manager-thankful-get-win-antrim/)
but be warned, that action would require some effort and you will hear things that will directly conflict with your prejudices. And I suspect that might well be a dangerous experience for you.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 01:27:53 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Main Street on April 29, 2019, 11:13:44 AM
Storm Hannah and a finnicky ref  affected the game at Corrigan Park, not the coaches.

Ah now, was storm Hannah only in Corrigan park and it had mostly passed on Saturday anyway. I call BS on that main street.
What a reply, an almost total absence of logic, research and evidence. I referred to the factors affecting one game that I had listened to on Northern Sound's live commentary, over and above the sound of the gale force conditions.
You can listen to a short report on the game here,
https://www.northernsound.ie/monaghan-manager-thankful-get-win-antrim/ (https://www.northernsound.ie/monaghan-manager-thankful-get-win-antrim/)
but be warned, that action would require some effort and you will hear things that will directly conflict with your prejudices. And I suspect that might well be a dangerous experience for you.

So the logical answer is that both teams were playing against the wind for the entire game I suppose
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: LeoMc on April 29, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.

How does the back-door system work in this competition?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 29, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.

How does the back-door system work in this competition?

Everyone who loses in round 1 goes into a qualification back door, two teams emerge from that to play the two teams that won through to the semi final in the conventional manner.  I believe the two teams who made the final last year were both knocked out in the earlier rounds.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: LeoMc on May 02, 2019, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 29, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.

How does the back-door system work in this competition?

Everyone who loses in round 1 goes into a qualification back door, two teams emerge from that to play the two teams that won through to the semi final in the conventional manner.  I believe the two teams who made the final last year were both knocked out in the earlier rounds.
The 2 losing semi-finalists?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Itchy on May 03, 2019, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on May 02, 2019, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 29, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.

How does the back-door system work in this competition?

Everyone who loses in round 1 goes into a qualification back door, two teams emerge from that to play the two teams that won through to the semi final in the conventional manner.  I believe the two teams who made the final last year were both knocked out in the earlier rounds.
The 2 losing semi-finalists?

I th I k it was Derry v Monaghan in final. Cavan beat Derry in 1st rd and pretty sure someone had beaten monaghan too 
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: oakleaf93 on May 03, 2019, 07:33:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on May 03, 2019, 06:06:16 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on May 02, 2019, 07:12:12 AM
Quote from: Itchy on April 29, 2019, 05:11:08 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on April 29, 2019, 04:12:50 PM
Quote from: skeog on April 29, 2019, 04:06:15 PM
Tyrone seriously impressive against Donegal according to reports from the game.Backdoor introduction casts a doubt though momentum can often be gained by a team beaten in the first round.

How does the back-door system work in this competition?

Everyone who loses in round 1 goes into a qualification back door, two teams emerge from that to play the two teams that won through to the semi final in the conventional manner.  I believe the two teams who made the final last year were both knocked out in the earlier rounds.
The 2 losing semi-finalists?

I th I k it was Derry v Monaghan in final. Cavan beat Derry in 1st rd and pretty sure someone had beaten monaghan too
Derry beat Monaghan first then lost to Cavan in Rd2. Monaghan and Derry then both made it through to the final via the backdoor
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on June 21, 2019, 08:51:30 PM
35 or so minutes gone at Brewster pk,
carnival football
Monaghan 4-6  Donegal 2-9







Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: straightred on June 21, 2019, 10:00:50 PM
Tyrone 1-14 Derry 0-10
Monaghan 5-10 Donegal 2-11
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Hound on June 21, 2019, 10:15:56 PM
Great stuff out of Monaghan. Refusing to be small county, must be doing a helluva lot right somewhere.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Schkite on June 21, 2019, 10:16:14 PM
Good win by the Monaghan lads tonight, hopefully they keep that eye for a goal in the final. Would be great to do back to back Ulsters.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on June 21, 2019, 10:50:09 PM
The Donegal keeper was injured in the warm-up, the sub goalie played the whole game. I don't know if it made a difference to the result, he fluffed one effort for the 4th goal which was the crucial goal.

Tyrone again!!
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on July 14, 2019, 05:26:06 PM
Ulster final,  Monaghan 1.13 Tyrone 1.11
Not even the entry of the son of God could pull this one out of the fire for Tyrone.

Monaghan dominated the 2nd half but hit 10 or 12 wides.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: omagh_gael on July 14, 2019, 05:29:27 PM
Is that Tyrone out or do they play the winners of another province in the AI quarter final series?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on July 14, 2019, 05:39:39 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on July 14, 2019, 05:29:27 PM
Is that Tyrone out or do they play the winners of another province in the AI quarter final series?

Play Munster winners.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on July 14, 2019, 05:45:58 PM
AI 1/4 finals  Croke Park  27th July
Tyrone v Kerry
Monaghan v Cork
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: omagh_gael on July 14, 2019, 07:15:08 PM
Cheers lads. What sort of team have Kerry this year?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2019, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 14, 2019, 05:26:06 PM
Ulster final,  Monaghan 1.13 Tyrone 1.11
Not even the entry of the son of God could pull this one out of the fire for Tyrone.

Monaghan dominated the 2nd half but hit 10 or 12 wides.

You're welcome to number 6, some way to go to match our 22 Ulster Minor titles though, lean ar aghaidh ;)
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 14, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2019, 09:11:20 PM
Quote from: Main Street on July 14, 2019, 05:26:06 PM
Ulster final,  Monaghan 1.13 Tyrone 1.11
Not even the entry of the son of God could pull this one out of the fire for Tyrone.

Monaghan dominated the 2nd half but hit 10 or 12 wides.

You're welcome to number 6, some way to go to match our 22 Ulster Minor titles though, lean ar aghaidh ;)

Is 22 correct?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2019, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 14, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
Is 22 correct?

According to today's programme, yes, though that's from 1930 only?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Ball Hopper on July 14, 2019, 10:39:05 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on July 14, 2019, 10:35:18 PM
Quote from: Ball Hopper on July 14, 2019, 10:00:47 PM
Is 22 correct?

According to today's programme, yes, though that's from 1930 only?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster_Minor_Football_Championship
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Captain Obvious on May 20, 2023, 01:10:14 PM
Minor championship semi finals live at the moment

Derry v Donegal

https://www.youtube.com/live/jTkfiR9uNc0?feature=share

Tyrone v Monaghan

https://www.youtube.com/live/MNbjVs5-wA8?feature=share
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2023, 01:22:41 PM
Watched 15mins of this game, there gonna have to be a serious review of refs, refs blowing for over carrying when a player hanging of a lad with 2 arms. It's not a Ref job to keep a game tight.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2023, 01:38:51 PM
The standard of underage fball is shocking Donegal playing to try keep the score down.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Blowitupref on May 20, 2023, 01:40:07 PM
Entertainment value of the two semi finals are a bit different.  Half time in both. Derry 0-4 Donegal 0-2 and Tyrone 2-9 Monaghan 2-6

Results Tyrone 3-10 Monaghan 2-13 (Extra time to be played)  Tyrone 4-13 Monaghan 2-19 AET. penalties to find a winner

Derry 0-9 Donegal 0-4
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2023, 02:31:29 PM
Derry very poor the 2nd Half, keep going for goals instead taking the easy points to built up the score, that seriously needs looked at, they should know the score when playing. Donegal need a hard look at themselves, like their U-20's, made no Intention to try win the game, just keep the score down after a earlier hammering from Derry. 4 points in 65 minutes is pathetic.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Schkite on May 20, 2023, 03:07:26 PM
Tyrone/Monaghan going to penalties
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Schkite on May 20, 2023, 03:24:26 PM
Monaghan win the shootout 6-5 after 9 penalties a piece. Mad game.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Newbridge Exile on May 20, 2023, 03:32:19 PM
Hadn't been following it to closely but would Tyrone not have been strong enough favorites for that game ?
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 20, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
Same 5 who hit the first 5 stepped up to take the next set. Is this right and not a soccer thing where you go down to the team
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Newbridge Exile on May 20, 2023, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 20, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
Same 5 who hit the first 5 stepped up to take the next set. Is this right and not a soccer thing where you go down to the team
That's the way they do it Hoof just stays with the same 5
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Hoof Hearted on May 20, 2023, 03:46:11 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on May 20, 2023, 03:35:57 PM
Quote from: Hoof Hearted on May 20, 2023, 03:33:58 PM
Same 5 who hit the first 5 stepped up to take the next set. Is this right and not a soccer thing where you go down to the team
That's the way they do it Hoof just stays with the same 5

Did that poor cub miss twice, wasn't really paying much attention to numbers
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Schkite on May 20, 2023, 03:53:01 PM
Quote from: Newbridge Exile on May 20, 2023, 03:32:19 PM
Hadn't been following it to closely but would Tyrone not have been strong enough favorites for that game ?

Favourites perhaps but I'm not sure how strong. Monaghan have a pretty good minor group this year
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: CK_Redhand on May 20, 2023, 03:59:07 PM
Tyrone were 5 points up with about 3 minutes left. Monaghan levelled with a free with the last kick.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2023, 06:05:42 PM
Turned over start of 2nd half of extra time, Tyrone well clear, must folded badly. They not beat Monaghan handy enough earlier on the Yr or was Monaghan in Derry league group.
Title: Re: Ulster Minor/U17 Championship
Post by: Main Street on May 20, 2023, 07:36:45 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on May 20, 2023, 06:05:42 PM
Turned over start of 2nd half of extra time, Tyrone well clear, must folded badly. They not beat Monaghan handy enough earlier on the Yr or was Monaghan in Derry league group.
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That was the first game of the league (early March)  when Tyrone beat Monaghan easily.
In this championship Monaghan have come on well since being well beaten by Derry, certainly a very fit team judging by how they swung a 5 point deficit in the 2nd part of ET.
I'd say the final  with Derry will be a lot more competitive than that earlier encounter.