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Title: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Denn Forever on January 27, 2024, 11:52:12 AM
Alabama tries a new method of execution.  Rated a success by alabama but it took 30 minutes for him to die! I thought execution had to be humane?  Govenor saying other states should adopt Nitrogen asphication.  I

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/01/25/us/kenneth-smith-nitrogen-gas-execution-alabama/index.html

iF CNN is a bit too hippy-dippy, how about the BBC.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68109309

Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Armagh18 on January 27, 2024, 11:52:59 AM
Bullet to the head surely be best?
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Captain Obvious on January 27, 2024, 02:47:08 PM
Some fcuk up and the whole execution thing I'd question.


To prove killing someone is wrong let's go kill that person. An actual life sentence in prison should be the punishment for those murders.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: tonto1888 on January 27, 2024, 03:08:30 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 27, 2024, 11:52:59 AMBullet to the head surely be best?

No death penalty would surely be best?
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Rossfan on January 27, 2024, 03:18:58 PM
Yanks again showing what an uncivilised shower of sick cnuts they are.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Saffrongael on January 27, 2024, 04:23:00 PM
How many states have the death penalty ? Mostly southern states with a blood thirsty governor ?
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2024, 04:27:05 PM
Nearly half!

Was listening to the reports on that latest death in Alabama, sounded horrific
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Jell 0 Biafra on January 27, 2024, 04:46:30 PM
The federal government also has the death penalty, which means there are executions in some states that don't themselves have the death penalty.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 06:01:50 PM
Quote from: Saffrongael on January 27, 2024, 04:23:00 PMHow many states have the death penalty ? Mostly southern states with a blood thirsty governor ?
Fair correlation with Republican states unsurprisingly.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PM
I'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PMI'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
In Maghaberry maybe, but death probably a better alternative than a lot of places in the US.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PMI'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
In Maghaberry maybe, but death probably a better alternative than a lot of places in the US.

True. Prison should be hard and punishing every minute of every day. Basic food provision, no menus or choice etc. and hard labour daily. No Internet, TV in a cell, computer games or degree courses.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Milltown Row2 on January 27, 2024, 11:49:09 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PMI'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
In Maghaberry maybe, but death probably a better alternative than a lot of places in the US.

True. Prison should be hard and punishing every minute of every day. Basic food provision, no menus or choice etc. and hard labour daily. No Internet, TV in a cell, computer games or degree courses.

Sounds like my life in the 70's

Prisoners across the world, had better conditions than I had growing up
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Itchy on January 28, 2024, 07:50:12 PM
Quote from: Armagh18 on January 27, 2024, 11:52:59 AMBullet to the head surely be best?

Was just thinking that. Why all these ridiculously elaborate methods.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: AustinPowers on January 28, 2024, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 27, 2024, 03:18:58 PMYanks again showing what an uncivilised shower of sick cnuts they are.

It's funny but in recent years,  Olympic and World Cup host countries (Russia,  Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc) have been  criticised for their attitude/laws/death penalties  towards  gays, women etc.  Yet the US has hosted numerous events and not a word about attitudes to same, and their  death penalty.

Remember seeing a  documentary  a while ago , and it basically looks  like  the US prison system is a  cheap labour camp for big business.  People thrown in jail for  having a break light  out or  a baldy tyre. Big businesses have a contract with the prisons so  they basically  are paying little to nothing  for labour
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 29, 2024, 05:27:18 AM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 11:38:04 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 27, 2024, 07:17:46 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on January 27, 2024, 06:53:58 PMI'd rather be in jail for life than dead.
In Maghaberry maybe, but death probably a better alternative than a lot of places in the US.

True. Prison should be hard and punishing every minute of every day. Basic food provision, no menus or choice etc. and hard labour daily. No Internet, TV in a cell, computer games or degree courses.

Why? You want them to re-offend when they come out? Kinda makes me wonder what the purpose of prison is. Why anyone would want criminals to be even more dangerous on release is beyond me.
Title: Re: Cruel and Unusual.
Post by: Eamonnca1 on January 29, 2024, 05:28:54 AM
Quote from: AustinPowers on January 28, 2024, 08:20:34 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on January 27, 2024, 03:18:58 PMYanks again showing what an uncivilised shower of sick cnuts they are.

It's funny but in recent years,  Olympic and World Cup host countries (Russia,  Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc) have been  criticised for their attitude/laws/death penalties  towards  gays, women etc.  Yet the US has hosted numerous events and not a word about attitudes to same, and their  death penalty.

Remember seeing a  documentary  a while ago , and it basically looks  like  the US prison system is a  cheap labour camp for big business.  People thrown in jail for  having a break light  out or  a baldy tyre. Big businesses have a contract with the prisons so  they basically  are paying little to nothing  for labour

John Oliver on the business model of prison labour.