The Official Fantastic Glasgow Rangers thread

Started by T Fearon, December 12, 2007, 09:47:25 PM

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clarshack

though it's not just in the west of Scotland. Hearts fans are just as bad.

Insane Bolt

Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians and ni##ers😡

michaelg

Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black bastards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Insane Bolt

Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks

michaelg

Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

lynchbhoy

But not equal...

One side of it supported if not indeed sponsored by the establishment

Thankfully it's improving north of the border since the economy improved after GFA.

It's getting worse in Scotland.
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michaelg

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 12:36:21 AM
But not equal...

One side of it supported if not indeed sponsored by the establishment

Thankfully it's improving north of the border since the economy improved after GFA.

It's getting worse in Scotland.
Celtic are as much of the establishment as Rangers in Scotland ffs. How else would they have won 50 odd titles?

lynchbhoy

No.
They aren't.

The establishment in the north of Ireland showed it's inequality at every juncture... including making the north of Ireland soccer team a cold hell for Catholic Irish.

It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Scotland is going to mean Celtic have to get out of SPL and even into the bottom tier of Welsh league if they want to play on a somewhat fair playing field... on and off the pitch
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Insane Bolt

Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.

illdecide

Steven Gerrard has questioned why Steve Clarke railed against the sectarian chanting he was subjected to at Ibrox on Wednesday night but made no comment on the similar abuse suffered by Kris Boyd during Kilmarnock's match with Celtic at the weekend. Clarke said that the west of Scotland was stuck in the "dark ages" after a section of the Rangers support directed chants of "sad Fenian bastard" towards the Kilmarnock manager towards the end of his team's 5-0 defeat in the Scottish Cup fifth round replay.
Gerrard, the Rangers manager, said he backed his club's stance, set out in a short statement issued yesterday, that "unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated at Ibrox" and that "everything will be done to eradicate this kind of behaviour". But the former England captain also sought to present a contrast in Clarke's reaction on Wednesday and his handling of taunts of "sad Orange bastard" directed towards Boyd from the Celtic support as the Kilmarnock substitute warmed up during the 
Scottish champions' 1-0 win at Rugby Park on Sunday. Asked about the abuse Clarke was subjected to, Gerrard said: "Well I think it's happened in the last four or five days to Steve and his players. There was stuff said at Kilmarnock v Celtic as well at the weekend but Steve didn't want to really speak about the abuse that Boydy got. But obviously he's decided to speak about it last night. Superfast Broadband at an amazing price Enjoy Superfast Broadband at an amazing price with Sky Fibre Max for £27 a month. Promoted by Sky "All I can say is as a club we don't support any unacceptable behaviour from the terraces. Whatever that may be, whomever it may involve, we don't support it. We've made a statement on it and made that very clear. As a club we want to eradicate that type of stuff from the terraces." Gerrard said "of course" he was "aware" of sectarianism during his first season in Scotland. Without ever using referring to sectarianism directly, he sought to place it in the wider context of unacceptable behaviour, which he said is not unique to Scotland. "Individuals and small minorities at certain stadiums let themselves down unfortunately," he said. "That's not just in this league. I've had experience of it before. Of late, there's been different kind of abuse in football matches and as a football family we should all be trying to eradicate it from the terraces because it's unacceptable. I respect Steve's opinion on it but all I have to say as the manager of Rangers is we don't support it from fans on our terraces. We want it out, whatever kind of abuse it is we don't want it. Homophobic, racial, religion, we don't want it and we don't support it." Gerrard is in no doubt that recent events, coupled with incidents of coin throwing - most recently at Rugby Park where Boyd was hit on the elbow - besmirch the Scottish game, but football has issues worldwide. And he maintained it would be wrong simply to view Rangers' entire support through the prism of what befell Clarke. 'I think it tarnishes the game around the world when you see incidents of coin throwing, racism, homophobia, it tarnishes the game," the Rangers manager said. "The majority are doing their best to eradicate it but I don't think you can tar every supporter with the same brush. 'We had nearly 40,000 fans at that game on a cold Wednesday night for a cup game on the back of a poor performance against St Johnstone. There's a lot of praise to go to our supporters too. I thought they got behind the team and the players treated them to a very important result. Unfortunately there were a minority there and we will try and eradicate that from our support."
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michaelg

Quote from: lynchbhoy on February 22, 2019, 01:15:18 AM
No.
They aren't.

The establishment in the north of Ireland showed it's inequality at every juncture... including making the north of Ireland soccer team a cold hell for Catholic Irish.

It's a dying breed and thankfully this rarely rears its head now ( save for the sectarian abuse netted out to visiting 26 county rugby teams playing 6 county based opposition in the 6 counties).

Scotland is going to mean Celtic have to get out of SPL and even into the bottom tier of Welsh league if they want to play on a somewhat fair playing field... on and off the pitch
Are you involved with a team and experienced this  first hand? 

michaelg

Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

themac_23

Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

You serious? Celtic do have a few idiot fans (as do all clubs) but what went on in Spain this week was completely down to police brutality and even locals have said as much, spanish police have a reputation for being very heavy handed with football fans and hitting first ask questions never, same as the dutch police

illdecide

Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

Michaelg i will agree with you on most things and Celtic have their fair share of idiots and I've seen them first hand but i have to disagree with you on Celtic fans causing trouble in Spain, the videos are all on line of fans walking calmly and police beating them across the legs with batons for nothing. Also a girl getting hit with a baton for filming scenes on her phone, this is not hearsay this is fact, I've watched them several times...trust me i'm all for you cause trouble you deserve what's coming to you especially in other countries abroad but call it what it is and if you'd have watched the numerous videos from the last few days you'd retract what you said...maybe you were just trying to wind up :-\
I can swim a little but i can't fly an inch

Insane Bolt

Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 09:58:34 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 22, 2019, 08:36:05 AM
Quote from: michaelg on February 22, 2019, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: michaelg on February 21, 2019, 05:06:26 PM
Quote from: Insane Bolt on February 21, 2019, 03:35:54 PM
Sectarianism in Scotland and N.Ireland is treated like racism in England.....brushed under the carpet....sure it's only fenians, huns. orange / black b**tards and ni##ers😡
Fixed that for you there

Thanks
No probs. As you well know, sectarianism is a double edged sword in Scotland and NI.

Gerrard couldn't even call it out for what it was...why? Sectarianism in all forms is wrong....but anti Catholic sectarianism is tolerated/accepted at all levels in both N.I. and Scotland. I wouldn't expect you to have experienced the levels of sectarianism that most nationalists have, but please don't try and say one side is as bad as the other.
Can you give examples of this in NI in 2019?  As for the one side not being as bad as the other, the trouble caused by Celtic fans in Spain is a case in point.  Celtic fans play up and it's police brutality, but when the same thing happens to Rangers fans away, it's thuggery, hooliganism etc.

In 2019....well it's a bit early for the marching.....even for the loyal sons of Ulster😜.