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#1
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2024, 08:58:44 PMDeadly strike on Rafah a tragic mishap, Netanyahu says MSM (actually it hasnt even happened on MSNBC)

I believe them

Not sure what your point is - the 'Mainstream media' print and repeat Russian denials and bullshit as well.

Wrong thread?

#2
Quote from: Truthsayer on May 27, 2024, 03:17:37 PM
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 27, 2024, 03:08:22 PM
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 27, 2024, 02:29:32 PMSome of the pictures from the latest Israeli atrocity are really beyond words.

Western media going with 'Israel takes out 2 Hamas leaders' and 'used precision munitions' as their headline is beyond despicable.

Yeah, absolutely deplorable.

Anyone still sticking up for Israel at this point must be dead inside.
It's sponsored genocide. Netenyahu and his cohorts no better than Hitler's Nazis..

I agree but I never use that comparison. You're playing straight into their hands, allows Israeli supporters to divert the conversation straight away to 'anti-semetism'.
#3
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on May 27, 2024, 04:37:13 PMOn the other hand, the people who are 'too clever to believe the MSM' and 'do their own research' - remember when they were telling us that Putin was stepping in to sort a Nazi problem, or rescuing Ukraine from joining NATO.

Strange how tankies and 'both siders' have gone quiet about these justifications?
Now imagine if Putin had been able to topple Ukraine in 3 days, with a few rusty tanks on the road to Kyiv, as he originally thought.
Would he have realistically have stopped there? I expect he'd already be sorting out Moldova's problem by now.


They've been quiet but they're still there,  believing the same tired old rubbish but mostly too embarrassed to spout it now, after everything Russia has done (and said) these past 2 years.
#4
Quote from: Horse Box on May 27, 2024, 03:23:54 PM
Quote from: burdizzo on May 27, 2024, 02:19:37 PMOn my 'newsfeed' a minute ago was "What countries will Putin invade next?". Some people gobble this rubbish up.

Absolutely , people buy what the Mainstream Media tell you or some Clown will put a Video up on Youtube like the example you have given ( I`ve come across it ) , people are too lazy to do research themselves and see what the reality of the situation is .

Oh yeah and the open-minded non-lazy people's 'own research' typically involves watching a few Max Blumenthal 'investigations' and swallowing his bullshit hook, line and sinker.

Heard of him? I know you have. Skull definitely has. 
#5
Quote from: Keyser soze on May 27, 2024, 02:29:32 PMSome of the pictures from the latest Israeli atrocity are really beyond words.

Western media going with 'Israel takes out 2 Hamas leaders' and 'used precision munitions' as their headline is beyond despicable.

Yeah, absolutely deplorable.

Anyone still sticking up for Israel at this point must be dead inside.
#6
Quote from: theskull1 on May 27, 2024, 01:50:24 PMEveryone completely comfortable with the dichotomous notion that one side is the goodie and the other side the baddie here?

I'm not

No it seems you've reserved the dichotomous notion of 'goodie and baddie' status for the Palestine-Israel conflict. And not only you either.

For some reason you don't believe Israeli lies as quickly as you swallow Russian lies. Why is that do you think?
#7
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on May 27, 2024, 12:03:34 AMWell let's see, tactics over the years with various conflicts or wars have used indiscriminate bombs to create fear..

Doesn't mean it will impact change from the aggressors, in fact might have the opposite

You don't need to wait and see, Russia has been hitting civilians targets intentionally for over 2 years now. Including double tap strikes to kill first responders and those coming to help the wounded.

Ukraine hasn't adopted their 'strategy' and they aren't going to. In fact, every time Ukraine hits a high value Russian military target such as an airfield or ship watch out for the next shopping mall or marketplace packed with civilians to get obliterated. They think they can break the will of the Ukrainian civilian population, they are wrong.
#8
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2024, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 11:51:15 AM
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2024, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 08:17:33 AMSince some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).





You misread my post. Regime 1 = Israel, Regime 2 = Russia.

Ah, yes I took it up wrong, I thought you were referencing Ukraine and Russia.

#9
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on May 26, 2024, 01:55:10 PMVery significant win as it now brings Celtic level with Rangers as regards major trophies won with both now standing on 118 and Rangers no longer able to boast that they're the most successful club in Scotland

Or the world lol.
#10
This incident also comes to mind:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

With 'friends' like Israel who needs enemies.
#11
Quote from: Itchy on May 26, 2024, 10:58:46 AM
Quote from: Lubo Moravcik on May 26, 2024, 08:17:33 AMSince some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.

There is some difference, one of the regimes is supported and funded by Western countries, many of whom are our allies. The other is despised by these same countries. Another difference is that media in the West attempts to give balance/equivalence to Israel v Palestine but makes no attempt to do the same in Russia v Ukraine.

Well first of all, the Ukrainian government isn't a regime, it's the democratically elected government of Ukraine. I suppose Israel isn't technically a 'regime' either but it's most definitely blood-soaked and fascist in nature. 

It is right that Ukraine is supported by other countries in their fight against Russian aggression. By the way the civilian slaughter in Ukraine would be many, many times greater if it wasn't for western supply of air defences to shoot down Russian missiles and Iranian drones.

Also, support given to Ukraine doesn't alter the nature of Russia's deliberate and indiscriminate attacks on civilians. See Syria, Georgia and Chechnya also. Just like Israel in Gaza, deliberate murder.

The media doesn't attempt to make a balance/equivalence between Ukraine and Russia because there is none.

I agree with you that it's unfair and hypocritical to equate Palestine with Israel in their fight against aggression. I agree with you it's shameful that western countries supply Israel with weapons and that Israel hasn't been sanctioned and kicked out of all sporting and international events (like SA was back in the day).



#12
Regardless of the match what a fantastic way to end the season with another trophy. It was a difficult season but we came through in the end.

Hopefully we continue to build over the summer.
#13
Since some on this board seem to be in doubt, deliberate Russian targeting of civilians continues, as it has done since Feb 2022. The slaughter continues, as in Kharkiv yesterday:

https://x.com/IuliiaMendel/status/1794372449628471315

Russia, Israel - zero difference, two blood soaked fascist regimes.
#14
Big day today - am feeling confident after the last two derbys but the fact I'm feeling confident makes me nervous lol.
#15
General discussion / Re: The far right
May 25, 2024, 07:52:29 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on May 25, 2024, 07:15:10 AMPure unadulterated hate, it just happened to transfer from the non-whites to a woman there... Vile

I'd say it there was dole parity with the North, this would sort alot of this out

Garda need to start recording these incidents and scoop these scumbags up later.