China Coronavirus

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PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Rossfan on October 18, 2020, 11:10:58 AM
If Johnny puts his finger in the fire do I have to follow suit?
If thick gobsh1tes sat on top of each other at matches do I also have to?
If GAA Co Boards made no effort to ensure/enforce Social distancing at matches did I also have to ignore it?

Remember it's not Governments or Doctors or Organisations who can prevent/reduce the spread of Covid.

It's YOU!!

i agree with all of that but people take there cues from what they see others do, especially those in authority etc. The GAA as an organisation were poor and didnt set a good example. As it is at the heart of most communities i think its attitude backed up peoples opinion who broke the rules at matches that it wasnt a big deal..

Blowitupref

Ireland is 211 on the 14th day incidence rate on the number of cases.

Spain 312.4
France 365.8
Netherlands 485.5
Belgium 637.6

I wonder who those countries point the finger of blame at for their high infection rates, hardly the GAA like here.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Blowitupref on October 18, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
Ireland is 211 on the 14th day incidence rate on the number of cases.

Spain 312.4
France 365.8
Netherlands 485.5
Belgium 637.6

I wonder who those countries point the finger of blame at for their high infection rates, hardly the GAA like here.

who is solely blaming the gaa on here?

Blowitupref

Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 18, 2020, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 18, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
Ireland is 211 on the 14th day incidence rate on the number of cases.

Spain 312.4
France 365.8
Netherlands 485.5
Belgium 637.6

I wonder who those countries point the finger of blame at for their high infection rates, hardly the GAA like here.

who is solely blaming the gaa on here?
Here as the general public opinion from what I see on social media and from some journalists.
Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Sid do you believe the rising cases is down to the GAA? If you do then you can be put in the same bracket as Poots, if on the other hand you believe it's not helped the rise of cases alongside wet bars being opened, colleges reopened schools reopened other close contact services reopened then you are not the same as Poots.

All these factors, and forgetting what's happening across the world, the North's rise in case is down to the general public being complacent and not following simple guidelines.

The reason it spreads is because people are not social distancing they are not using sanitizer or washing hands. Even ones that have been in known contact with someone who's been positive haven't isolated!

I was at club games in Antrim and what happened at the pitch and after the games was brilliant, what happened after they left the pitch becomes an individual decision to break the rules, the pubs that allowed it to happen broke the rules. If there was rule breaks at the ground then yes blame that county board, there are 32 county boards, how many broke guidelines?
The GAA is undoubtedly a contributor to increased spread

It helped to spread complacency in society as a whole, and that came right from the top and spread downwards through the organisation

In a similar way to how the Clifden golf jolly generated such anger - and rightly so - because it showed that people with high profile positions in politics and the judiciary believed there was one rule for them and one rule for others, the GAA, the most important civil society organisation in the country, cocked a snook at the regulations in a very public and high handed way

The GAA has a position of immense influence and authority in Irish society, a unique position actually, it permeates every parish in the country, one might say it is the glue that holds Irish society together

Therefore it had a special responsibility to publicly adhere to restrictions and be seen to fully behind them

It didn't do that, it took the piss

For the GAA, there was one rule for it and another for everybody else - and now, anybody who criticises the GAA is apparently Edwin Poots

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel and all that

Again, if we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games




PadraicHenryPearse

Quote from: Blowitupref on October 18, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
Quote from: PadraicHenryPearse on October 18, 2020, 11:37:06 AM
Quote from: Blowitupref on October 18, 2020, 11:34:07 AM
Ireland is 211 on the 14th day incidence rate on the number of cases.

Spain 312.4
France 365.8
Netherlands 485.5
Belgium 637.6

I wonder who those countries point the finger of blame at for their high infection rates, hardly the GAA like here.

who is solely blaming the gaa on here?
Here as the general public opinion from what I see on social media and from some journalists.

ik, i read "here " as this board rather than what you actually meant which is general public.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Sid do you believe the rising cases is down to the GAA? If you do then you can be put in the same bracket as Poots, if on the other hand you believe it's not helped the rise of cases alongside wet bars being opened, colleges reopened schools reopened other close contact services reopened then you are not the same as Poots.

All these factors, and forgetting what's happening across the world, the North's rise in case is down to the general public being complacent and not following simple guidelines.

The reason it spreads is because people are not social distancing they are not using sanitizer or washing hands. Even ones that have been in known contact with someone who's been positive haven't isolated!

I was at club games in Antrim and what happened at the pitch and after the games was brilliant, what happened after they left the pitch becomes an individual decision to break the rules, the pubs that allowed it to happen broke the rules. If there was rule breaks at the ground then yes blame that county board, there are 32 county boards, how many broke guidelines?
The GAA is undoubtedly a contributor to increased spread

It helped to spread complacency in society as a whole, and that came right from the top and spread downwards through the organisation

In a similar way to how the Clifden golf jolly generated such anger - and rightly so - because it showed that people with high profile positions in politics and the judiciary believed there was one rule for them and one rule for others, the GAA, the most important civil society organisation in the country, cocked a snook at the regulations in a very public and high handed way

The GAA has a position of immense influence and authority in Irish society, a unique position actually, it permeates every parish in the country, one might say it is the glue that holds Irish society together

Therefore it had a special responsibility to publicly adhere to restrictions and be seen to fully behind them

It didn't do that, it took the piss

For the GAA, there was one rule for it and another for everybody else - and now, anybody who criticises the GAA is apparently Edwin Poots

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel and all that

Again, if we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Just another rant, ok Poots
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Square Ball

This is the shit were up against. Fella has symptoms on Tuesday (no taste) goes to work anyway and says nothing. Thursday doesn't feel any better, he and wife gets tested. Wife goes on a day trip with 2 other family members in car. Bloke still goes to work and lifts 2 others for work. Yes they both get positive results, to to make worse, go shopping to a supermarket with their two small children. And, and were looking a baby sitter to go to a fecking party. This is the idiotic, selfish and dangerous attitude that does exist out there. Member of family close to this and I hope they have reported them. We hope to reduce the cases with this attitude 🤯
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

Captain Obvious

Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
If we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Club games without the competitive edge are a waste of time. Players can keep fit training and in the gym. In a situation like like many will be taking up other sports and won't be coming back to GAA when it returns to competitive action.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Square Ball on October 18, 2020, 11:54:42 AM
This is the shit were up against. Fella has symptoms on Tuesday (no taste) goes to work anyway and says nothing. Thursday doesn't feel any better, he and wife gets tested. Wife goes on a day trip with 2 other family members in car. Bloke still goes to work and lifts 2 others for work. Yes they both get positive results, to to make worse, go shopping to a supermarket with their two small children. And, and were looking a baby sitter to go to a fecking party. This is the idiotic, selfish and dangerous attitude that does exist out there. Member of family close to this and I hope they have reported them. We hope to reduce the cases with this attitude 🤯

Nope don't believe you at al! Rubbish story, unless they went to the GAA game first
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sid waddell

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 18, 2020, 11:56:03 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
If we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Club games without the competitive edge are a waste of time. Players can keep fit training and in the gym. In a situation like like many will be taking up other sports and won't be coming back to GAA when it returns to competitive action.
Why would they be a waste of time?

It's often said that club players just want to play, and the over emphasis on competition is frequently lamented on here

Playing non-competitive football is far more enjoyable than going to the gym

In fact it's often been said that the ultra-competitive nature of GAA games leads to a smaller playing population than there could or should be

This was the motivating factor behind the "Recreational GAA" idea some years ago which I think Diarmuid Marsden was involved in formulating

The strength of grass roots soccer is that there is a level for everybody

That isn't really the case in GAA



sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 11:19:22 AM
Sid do you believe the rising cases is down to the GAA? If you do then you can be put in the same bracket as Poots, if on the other hand you believe it's not helped the rise of cases alongside wet bars being opened, colleges reopened schools reopened other close contact services reopened then you are not the same as Poots.

All these factors, and forgetting what's happening across the world, the North's rise in case is down to the general public being complacent and not following simple guidelines.

The reason it spreads is because people are not social distancing they are not using sanitizer or washing hands. Even ones that have been in known contact with someone who's been positive haven't isolated!

I was at club games in Antrim and what happened at the pitch and after the games was brilliant, what happened after they left the pitch becomes an individual decision to break the rules, the pubs that allowed it to happen broke the rules. If there was rule breaks at the ground then yes blame that county board, there are 32 county boards, how many broke guidelines?
The GAA is undoubtedly a contributor to increased spread

It helped to spread complacency in society as a whole, and that came right from the top and spread downwards through the organisation

In a similar way to how the Clifden golf jolly generated such anger - and rightly so - because it showed that people with high profile positions in politics and the judiciary believed there was one rule for them and one rule for others, the GAA, the most important civil society organisation in the country, cocked a snook at the regulations in a very public and high handed way

The GAA has a position of immense influence and authority in Irish society, a unique position actually, it permeates every parish in the country, one might say it is the glue that holds Irish society together

Therefore it had a special responsibility to publicly adhere to restrictions and be seen to fully behind them

It didn't do that, it took the piss

For the GAA, there was one rule for it and another for everybody else - and now, anybody who criticises the GAA is apparently Edwin Poots

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel and all that

Again, if we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Just another rant, ok Poots
Good riposte

Square Ball

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 18, 2020, 11:57:10 AM
Quote from: Square Ball on October 18, 2020, 11:54:42 AM
This is the shit were up against. Fella has symptoms on Tuesday (no taste) goes to work anyway and says nothing. Thursday doesn't feel any better, he and wife gets tested. Wife goes on a day trip with 2 other family members in car. Bloke still goes to work and lifts 2 others for work. Yes they both get positive results, to to make worse, go shopping to a supermarket with their two small children. And, and were looking a baby sitter to go to a fecking party. This is the idiotic, selfish and dangerous attitude that does exist out there. Member of family close to this and I hope they have reported them. We hope to reduce the cases with this attitude 🤯

Nope don't believe you at al! Rubbish story, unless they went to the GAA game first
He watched reruns on TG4, does that count?
Hospitals are not equipped to treat stupid

Captain Obvious

Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 18, 2020, 11:56:03 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
If we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Club games without the competitive edge are a waste of time. Players can keep fit training and in the gym. In a situation like like many will be taking up other sports and won't be coming back to GAA when it returns to competitive action.
Why would they be a waste of time?

It's often said that club players just want to play, and the over emphasis on competition is frequently lamented on here

Playing non-competitive football is far more enjoyable than going to the gym

In fact it's often been said that the ultra-competitive nature of GAA games leads to a smaller playing population than there could or should be

This was the motivating factor behind the "Recreational GAA" idea some years ago which I think Diarmuid Marsden was involved in formulating

The strength of grass roots soccer is that there is a level for everybody

That isn't really the case in GAA

The competitive edge is what makes the game that it is and what players enjoy most about this sport.

sid waddell

Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 18, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 12:10:32 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on October 18, 2020, 11:56:03 AM
Quote from: sid waddell on October 18, 2020, 11:43:09 AM
If we are still in this situation next year, there should be no club championships, no formal club competitions, no trophies, no more opportunities for more superspreading events

Just a series of non-competitive matches to keep fit and have a bit of fun, like Go Games

Club games without the competitive edge are a waste of time. Players can keep fit training and in the gym. In a situation like like many will be taking up other sports and won't be coming back to GAA when it returns to competitive action.
Why would they be a waste of time?

It's often said that club players just want to play, and the over emphasis on competition is frequently lamented on here

Playing non-competitive football is far more enjoyable than going to the gym

In fact it's often been said that the ultra-competitive nature of GAA games leads to a smaller playing population than there could or should be

This was the motivating factor behind the "Recreational GAA" idea some years ago which I think Diarmuid Marsden was involved in formulating

The strength of grass roots soccer is that there is a level for everybody

That isn't really the case in GAA

The competitive edge is what makes the game that it is and what players enjoy most about this sport.
Every match at any level creates its own competitive dynamic

Training even has its own competitive dynamic

The GAA prides itself as a community organisation

Now it seems to want its cake and eat it

The right to keep creating superspreading events is not the most valuable feature of the GAA

The most valuable feature is the keeping fit, playing a bit of ball, and having fun, and community

That's what it's supposed to be anyway

Our definition of what community is has now had to change due to the unforeseen circumstances brought about by a pandemic

Yet now it appears the right to hold superspreading events during a pandemic is the most important thing as far as some people are concerned

The "we are not for turning, never, never, never" mantra

The organised competition competitive edge is what leads to those superspreading events

That's fundamentally anti-community and individualist

And being anti-community and individualist was never my understanding of what the GAA was supposed to be about