What do New York bring to the Championship

Started by Unlaoised, April 16, 2019, 12:13:14 PM

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BennyCake

Yeah I agree. NY should be drawn randomly in the c'ahip  One year, Cork, maybe next year Derry. Would be good for respective Gael's in NY to see their county in action.

Captain Obvious

Why doesn't London get the chance to play New York in the Connacht championship?

Itchy

What do Laois bring to the championship? What do half the counties in the country bring to it.

imtommygunn

Honestly with the football these days I ask that question a lot of my own county :(

Main Street


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Quote from: joemamas on April 16, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
Stupid and Pointless ?
Maybe your Q should be,

"What has the NY GAA done for Irish immigrants over the decades" ?

To start with, if you go back a generation, most tickets to NY were one way, in fact, I would say that was the case up until the late 80's, when you probably went back home once every two or three years, because you either could not afford to, or you status did not exactly encourage it.

In those days, Gaelic Park in NY was the place that you inevitably ended up on a Sunday, to meet people from home, to get a game of football, to get a job, a girls phone number,  It was essiantially an unofficail social center for Irish people.
This was the pre cell phones, pre social media, you would just show up, and meet hundreds of other recent immigrants in a similar situation, often homesick and insecure, financially or otherwise. You made friends, in some cases lifelong friends from counties you never even visited living in Ireland. A trip there on a Sunday was in a way like therapy.

Even in recent decades, It has helped employ thousands of summer students in jobs they may not have gotten only for GAA connections.
There was also was a time before the Celtic tiger, that being asked to go to NY and play with a club team there was a bit of an honor. 

So without turning this into an article on the social aspect of it all, it is a small price to pay by the GAA in Ireland to help cover the cost of a trip by county teams to play NY.

It still is a wonderful day out, and in a lot of cases due to marriage, family, kids, people not living in the immeadiate area, it is the only day to meet people you played with, hung out with and helped to promote Gaelic games in NY.

Will a NY team ever beat a team from Ireland. They came so close last year, but in reality the answer is probably no.

But the first Sunday in May in Gaelic Park is about a lot more than a Gaelic football match, It is a testament to survival, the survival of Immigrants, the survival and promotion of Gaelic games and Gaelic culture in NY. Long may it continue.

Superb post, Joe.

Eamonnca1

Quote from: joemamas on April 16, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
Stupid and Pointless ?
Maybe your Q should be,

"What has the NY GAA done for Irish immigrants over the decades" ?

To start with, if you go back a generation, most tickets to NY were one way, in fact, I would say that was the case up until the late 80's, when you probably went back home once every two or three years, because you either could not afford to, or you status did not exactly encourage it.

In those days, Gaelic Park in NY was the place that you inevitably ended up on a Sunday, to meet people from home, to get a game of football, to get a job, a girls phone number,  It was essiantially an unofficail social center for Irish people.
This was the pre cell phones, pre social media, you would just show up, and meet hundreds of other recent immigrants in a similar situation, often homesick and insecure, financially or otherwise. You made friends, in some cases lifelong friends from counties you never even visited living in Ireland. A trip there on a Sunday was in a way like therapy.

Even in recent decades, It has helped employ thousands of summer students in jobs they may not have gotten only for GAA connections.
There was also was a time before the Celtic tiger, that being asked to go to NY and play with a club team there was a bit of an honor. 

So without turning this into an article on the social aspect of it all, it is a small price to pay by the GAA in Ireland to help cover the cost of a trip by county teams to play NY.

It still is a wonderful day out, and in a lot of cases due to marriage, family, kids, people not living in the immeadiate area, it is the only day to meet people you played with, hung out with and helped to promote Gaelic games in NY.

Will a NY team ever beat a team from Ireland. They came so close last year, but in reality the answer is probably no.

But the first Sunday in May in Gaelic Park is about a lot more than a Gaelic football match, It is a testament to survival, the survival of Immigrants, the survival and promotion of Gaelic games and Gaelic culture in NY. Long may it continue.

Very well put.

armaghniac

Quote from: Itchy on April 16, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
What do Laois bring to the championship? What do half the counties in the country bring to it.

Unpleasant as they may be, Laois is in fact actually in Ireland.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

APM

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Quote from: joemamas on April 16, 2019, 02:13:03 PM
Stupid and Pointless ?
Maybe your Q should be,

"What has the NY GAA done for Irish immigrants over the decades" ?

To start with, if you go back a generation, most tickets to NY were one way, in fact, I would say that was the case up until the late 80's, when you probably went back home once every two or three years, because you either could not afford to, or you status did not exactly encourage it.

In those days, Gaelic Park in NY was the place that you inevitably ended up on a Sunday, to meet people from home, to get a game of football, to get a job, a girls phone number,  It was essiantially an unofficail social center for Irish people.
This was the pre cell phones, pre social media, you would just show up, and meet hundreds of other recent immigrants in a similar situation, often homesick and insecure, financially or otherwise. You made friends, in some cases lifelong friends from counties you never even visited living in Ireland. A trip there on a Sunday was in a way like therapy.

Even in recent decades, It has helped employ thousands of summer students in jobs they may not have gotten only for GAA connections.
There was also was a time before the Celtic tiger, that being asked to go to NY and play with a club team there was a bit of an honor. 

So without turning this into an article on the social aspect of it all, it is a small price to pay by the GAA in Ireland to help cover the cost of a trip by county teams to play NY.

It still is a wonderful day out, and in a lot of cases due to marriage, family, kids, people not living in the immeadiate area, it is the only day to meet people you played with, hung out with and helped to promote Gaelic games in NY.

Will a NY team ever beat a team from Ireland. They came so close last year, but in reality the answer is probably no.

But the first Sunday in May in Gaelic Park is about a lot more than a Gaelic football match, It is a testament to survival, the survival of Immigrants, the survival and promotion of Gaelic games and Gaelic culture in NY. Long may it continue.

Hard to disagree with much of that; however, the reports of big dough to attract over players in the summertime is not in keeping with the rules. Neither also is the payment of managers, but the GAA has a tremendous ability to turn a blind eye to these indiscretions.   The reports of young county players from weaker counties, queuing up for the plane to NYC as soon as they are dumped out of the provincial championship (or going before the championship even begins) is hardly edifying. 

Itchy

Quote from: armaghniac on April 17, 2019, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Itchy on April 16, 2019, 08:35:35 PM
What do Laois bring to the championship? What do half the counties in the country bring to it.

Unpleasant as they may be, Laois is in fact actually in Ireland.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Now the topic is "What do New York bring to the championship"

It made not comment on what country New York is in and what that has to do with anything I am not sure.

bogball88

How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

BennyCake

Quote from: bogball88 on April 17, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.

seafoid

Quote from: BennyCake on April 17, 2019, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: bogball88 on April 17, 2019, 02:37:25 PM
How many years since Armagh have last won an Ulster Championship game? Or Antrim?

Armagh 2014, Antrim 2009.
That is shocking re Armagh
I wonder how much more time Geezer will get.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

thewobbler

The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster

seafoid

Quote from: thewobbler on April 17, 2019, 05:27:29 PM
The obvious answer is that Connacht is a small province and without NY and London would be even more horribly lopsided than Leinster
Connacht has 3 decent teams unlike Leinster
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU