HOW WOULD YOU VOTE IN A BORDER POLL?

Started by RedHand88, March 20, 2021, 02:56:58 PM

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Would you back unity if a border poll was held tomorrow?

Yes (Northerner)
No (Northerner)
Yes (Southener)
No (Southener)

Angelo

Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 09:34:25 AM
The Department of Finance won't change.
SF won't change anything.

Spoken like a FFG zealot not wanting to cough it up.
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Angelo

Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.

But politicians on this island don't. They make themselves wealthy, a lot of them are landlords and business owners with vested interests in policies that benefit them and their class.

I'd agree the salary thing is gimmicky, what would be interesting is if they do get power and we can then judge if they make moves to reform the pay for political office holders and their advisors.
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seafoid

Quote from: Angelo on April 06, 2021, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 09:34:25 AM
The Department of Finance won't change.
SF won't change anything.

Spoken like a FFG zealot not wanting to cough it up.
What does that mean? None of the parties understand what is going on.
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Angelo

Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Angelo on April 06, 2021, 10:03:55 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 09:34:25 AM
The Department of Finance won't change.
SF won't change anything.

Spoken like a FFG zealot not wanting to cough it up.
What does that mean? None of the parties understand what is going on.

It's the type of line parroted by FFG about the hypotheticals of SF being in govt. FFG have ran the 26 for a century, there is precedent there on all their failures. SF should be judged on their performance when or if they get power. The prospect of it seems to worry the FFG grass roots, people know why it does.
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Armagh18

Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.
Nothing gimmicky about it. Politicians are on obscene money and expenses anyway.

Snapchap

Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.

Nothing gimmicky about turning your nose up at €10k and handing it back to the taxpayer.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.
Nothing gimmicky about it. Politicians are on obscene money and expenses anyway.

The basic salary for an MLA is £49,500
MP from 1 April 2020 is £81,932
The basic salary of a backbench TD is €96,189

You find that obscene?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Armagh18

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2021, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.
Nothing gimmicky about it. Politicians are on obscene money and expenses anyway.

The basic salary for an MLA is £49,500
MP from 1 April 2020 is £81,932
The basic salary of a backbench TD is €96,189

You find that obscene?
Beyond obscene for the work they do!

Rossfan

Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.

Nothing gimmicky about turning your nose up at €10k and handing it back to the taxpayer.
They'd only be getting €4k of that to take home I'd estimate.
And SF have plenty of $£ to look after them.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Snapchap

Quote from: Rossfan on April 06, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.

Nothing gimmicky about turning your nose up at €10k and handing it back to the taxpayer.
They'd only be getting €4k of that to take home I'd estimate.
And SF have plenty of $£ to look after them.
Oh ffs ::)

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2021, 11:00:10 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 06, 2021, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: Armagh18 on April 06, 2021, 10:22:45 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.
Nothing gimmicky about it. Politicians are on obscene money and expenses anyway.

The basic salary for an MLA is £49,500
MP from 1 April 2020 is £81,932
The basic salary of a backbench TD is €96,189

You find that obscene?
Beyond obscene for the work they do!

I've actually no idea of the normal day to day of what an elected rep does so couldn't comment on  the work they do, I suppose for the MLA's they had it free for 3 years.

Can anyone put up what they should be doing?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

BennyCake

Why was there no 'I wouldn't vote' option?

tonto1888

Quote from: Rossfan on April 06, 2021, 11:06:45 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 10:39:34 AM
Quote from: 6th sam on April 06, 2021, 10:03:44 AM
Quote from: Snapchap on April 06, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 06, 2021, 06:55:27 AM
SF want power and cars.
Of course they want power. What would be the point in a political party that didn't?

And as for cars, didn't most, if not all, SF's TDs recently sign their annual salary increase waivers, returning just short of €10k eack back to the state?

I think SF not taking their full salary is gimmicky. Our politicians have a difficult job and have important responsibility and influence . If they improve employment, homelessness, education , health , they've earned a decent salary in my opinion.

Nothing gimmicky about turning your nose up at €10k and handing it back to the taxpayer.
They'd only be getting €4k of that to take home I'd estimate.
And SF have plenty of $£ to look after them.

Give up 4K of your take home pay then. A ridiculous statement