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Re: Tyrone Club Football and Hurling
« Reply #36645 on: November 20, 2017, 08:06:11 PM »
Havent thought this through so don't shot me. If it was 4 x 12s.

What about 11 games v the other teams in the league and 6 more on a seeded basis. If you are seeded 1 to 6 you face all the teams in the btm half. If you are seeded 7 to 12 you face all the teams in top half.

It means 17 games per Club. The seeded teams have 9H and 8A.

It'll put an end to dead rubbers too. Getting into that top half would be crucial.

Splitting the league might work as I think 11 games are too few but 22 too many. Don't think your way would work though Norf as it would be very one sided at the end of the season results wise. Didn't the Scottish premier league split a few years ago? How did that work?

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« Reply #36646 on: November 20, 2017, 08:07:43 PM »
what about this...
we currently play 15 league games, 10 of which are player with county players, 5 without.
In a league of 12 teams just play 11 league games, all of those with county players. Play some other kind of league competition on days which normally would be set aside for starred games. This would do away with the need for league playoffs which were introduced to encourage teams to play starred games without their county men

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« Reply #36647 on: November 20, 2017, 11:04:21 PM »
what about this...
we currently play 15 league games, 10 of which are player with county players, 5 without.
In a league of 12 teams just play 11 league games, all of those with county players. Play some other kind of league competition on days which normally would be set aside for starred games. This would do away with the need for league playoffs which were introduced to encourage teams to play starred games without their county men

Only thing here would be the weeks of inactivity if Tyrone were to get on a run, it would be hard to see Mickey looking his main men playing in a club game that with less games become more critical. Itís not an easy job to please everyone. Changes had been proposed and rejected by clubs to allow things remain as they are. I thought this year went well.
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« Reply #36648 on: November 22, 2017, 02:30:12 PM »
Looking at the Tyrone squad for 2017 there appears to be only 2 players namely Padraig McNulty & McShane that are not playing their club football in Division 1. 
Would it not be an idea to only play starred rounds in Division 1 and to release the 2 "squad" players to their clubs which would mean that Division 2 & 3 run very smoothly next year through what is likely to be a very tough year for fixture makers with the sky sport super 8s taking place and an earlier All ire Final.

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« Reply #36649 on: November 22, 2017, 03:24:28 PM »
It would definitely make sense alright. To have 2 players hold up football for a couple of hundred players is madness. Division 3 should run smooth enough next year with no Owen Roes there.

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« Reply #36650 on: November 23, 2017, 01:24:30 PM »
If there are no Starred games in Div3 next year does that mean there will be no league play offs required in Div 3 for promotion apart from the highest placed team not to win league or championship playing the relegation play off winners from Div 2 for a place in Div 2

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« Reply #36651 on: November 23, 2017, 02:13:44 PM »
Security Forces and the GAA?

In recent times I have seen a lot of PR in relation to the PSNI and the Ulster Council. I see men like Ciaran McLaughlin retweeting British security forces recruitment advertisements and posing for photos with senior members of the PSNI.
I know some local clubs in my own area have been toying with the idea of introducing the British Security Forces into club events and in some cases is has been met with opposition. Is the timing right or is it a bit premature.
How do the grass roots members feel? I know in clubs like Derrytresk and Moortown there has been tension on the subject when club proposed or run events facilitated by the Security Forces,  and just yesterday I was chatting to a very disgruntled Ardboe man who wasn't happy that his club Chairman Paddy O'Neill was pictured with a member of the security forces in a PSNI PR exercise.
Is it acceptable? Or is it not?

I know McLaughlin and Harte and Dooher carried Ronan Kerr's coffin but I've never seen McLaughin pose with senior PSNI members or retweet British security forces recruitment adverts.

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« Reply #36652 on: November 23, 2017, 02:19:35 PM »
Security Forces and the GAA?

In recent times I have seen a lot of PR in relation to the PSNI and the Ulster Council. I see men like Ciaran McLaughlin retweeting British security forces recruitment advertisements and posing for photos with senior members of the PSNI.
I know some local clubs in my own area have been toying with the idea of introducing the British Security Forces into club events and in some cases is has been met with opposition. Is the timing right or is it a bit premature.
How do the grass roots members feel? I know in clubs like Derrytresk and Moortown there has been tension on the subject when club proposed or run events facilitated by the Security Forces,  and just yesterday I was chatting to a very disgruntled Ardboe man who wasn't happy that his club Chairman Paddy O'Neill was pictured with a member of the security forces in a PSNI PR exercise.
Is it acceptable? Or is it not?

I think the timing is right but I know it will be difficult for many. It will be baby steps and might do some short term damage. I suppose it's argued for as a long term gain. I would begrudgingly accept it in a limited form but haven't really decided how limited, it hasn't came up in my club. I like the idea of volunteers doing much of the organizing outside grounds too and would not like to see it replaced like the Gardai do in places. Though a casual PSNI presence might be a good introduction.

The truth is, it's happening as you say. It will have positives. I watched McKaigue interview with Off the Ball and they tinkered around this. That's just another indication that it's real and he stressed Slaughtneil were an open and welcoming club and community . I thought it was a very good interview.

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« Reply #36653 on: November 23, 2017, 02:26:54 PM »
I don't think it would be accepted in my own club. We have lost several member of our club to the security forces and we hold those members in high esteem. There is still a rawness there and many of our current members have lost family at the hands of the security forces.
I don't think it would go down well to even suggest it.

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« Reply #36654 on: November 23, 2017, 02:29:08 PM »
Good look to the 1st Galbally club member to join the ranks of the PSNI. My thoughts would be the time isnít right in republican strongholds probably add Carrickmore into the mix as well. Some clubs in Tyrone would be ready to embrace it but I feel many wouldnít. Interested if any Galbally or Carrickmore posters feel Iím wrong????
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« Reply #36655 on: November 23, 2017, 03:07:20 PM »
Sadly Brolly has twisted this debate. I doubt if the GAA or and Club would approve or disapprove either way of members joining the PSNI. That's not the question nor is it the intention of anyone in a GAA hat. That's a question for the public.
The question here is about building a relationship with the PSNI as two community organisations. The same as relationships are built with others such as County Councils, schools and other sports clubs.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 03:08:58 PM by vallankumous »

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« Reply #36656 on: November 23, 2017, 03:18:04 PM »
Describing the British Security forces as a community organisation? I'm not so sure myself.
I don't think Galbally would welcome the security forces. Although I would have thought the same about Ardboe and Moortown.
I believe the security forces are using the community issue to their advantage to create this sense of normality.
The same way as they use it in schools.
Some schools bring in the PSNI for various talks. In some cases I know parents who have expressed concern and others who have kept their children at home on the said days.

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« Reply #36657 on: November 23, 2017, 03:22:00 PM »
Describing the British Security forces as a community organisation? I'm not so sure myself.
I don't think Galbally would welcome the security forces. Although I would have thought the same about Ardboe and Moortown.
I believe the security forces are using the community issue to their advantage to create this sense of normality.
The same way as they use it in schools.
Some schools bring in the PSNI for various talks. In some cases I know parents who have expressed concern and others who have kept their children at home on the said days.

Lookit, nobody is talking about M15 or the SAS here.

Yes, it is PR for the PSNI.
You are right and i accept and understand the opposition. However, the people of Galbally will phone the PSNI if their club house is burnt down by idiots.


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« Reply #36658 on: November 23, 2017, 04:05:42 PM »
As matter of interest on this forum who would be in favour of accepting psni within the ranks of tyrone gaa. For me not a chance while they are still working for the crown. That's just my feelings.

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« Reply #36659 on: November 23, 2017, 04:11:44 PM »
WISE UP YOU CLOWNS!!