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Started by Nuabaí, January 01, 2009, 04:14:13 AM

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Nuabaí

Okay I saw hurling for the first time a little while ago and I have some questions:

Is there a rule against challenging for the ball while it's on an opponent's stick? I saw a player carrying the ball on his stick as I know he's required to do according to the rules. He was being followed closely and I thought, all the opponent has to do is to tap the ball carrier's stick with his own stick and the ball will fall to the ground.

BTW the stick is always called a hurley, right? Why is the ball called a puck? It's not flat so why isn't it a ball?

What's the longest distance a player has struck the ball, er, puck? And what's the longest distance from which a player has scored a point?

How heavy is the puck? It puzzled me why the backs clear the ball with two hands on the stick, er, hurley. It seemed to me that they could get greater distance with a one-handed tennis-like swing, unless the puck is really heavy.

AZOffaly

OK, on the assumption that this is not another tiresome windup, I'll field some of these. Answers in bold.

Okay I saw hurling for the first time a little while ago and I have some questions:

Is there a rule against challenging for the ball while it's on an opponent's stick?
I saw a player carrying the ball on his stick as I know he's required to do according to the rules. He was being followed closely and I thought, all the opponent has to do is to tap the ball carrier's stick with his own stick and the ball will fall to the ground.
There is no rule against challenging for the ball on his hurl as long as you do not make a 'chopping' motion down on to his hurl.

BTW the stick is always called a hurley, right? Why is the ball called a puck? It's not flat so why isn't it a ball?
The stick is a hurley, or hurl. Depends on the part of the country you come from. In Munster it's a hurley, but I always heard it called a hurl in Offaly, Galway etc etc. The ball, however is NOT called a puck. It is called a sliothar, or hurling ball. I think you may be confusing the ball with the action of striking it, which is the 'puck' or 'puc'. (e.g. He pucked the sliothar over the bar).

What's the longest distance a player has struck the ball, er, puck? And what's the longest distance from which a player has scored a point?
There is an annual long Puc contest that takes place over the Cooley mountains in Louth, whereby the object is to cover the distance in as few pucks as possible. I'm not sure there is a record of longest ever, but on a pitch, I saw Jim Troy of Offaly getting a 'wide' against Laois from a puckout from his own goals. It bounced about 10 yards out before scooting wide, so I'd guess it was in flight about 135 metres. As for longest point, again, I'm not sure if it's been recorded, but you'll regularly see good freetakers scoring from up on 100 metres, taking angle into account.

How heavy is the puck? It puzzled me why the backs clear the ball with two hands on the stick, er, hurley. It seemed to me that they could get greater distance with a one-handed tennis-like swing, unless the puck is really heavy.

The puck is not heavy. It is a solid mass however, not air filled like a tennis ball. It's a bit lighter than a baseball, but less dense. A baseball is a decent comparison though. As for one handed vs two handed, no. It's always better to hit it with two hands, like a baseball player or golfer. You generate more power with a long 'stick' with two hands than one, otherwise Tiger Woods would be slapping away with one hand. It's similar to a golf swing, you 'pull' through the ball, rather than pushing like in Tennis. Hence the term 'Pull Hard'.

Hope that helps if you are not another alias being 'funny'. If you are a genuine newbie to hurling, stick with it, you'll love it.



Bud Wiser

In Cork you can strike anytime with a hurley.  You can strike downwards, sideways or strike for any reason at all.  Cork are currenlty the holders of the longest strike in hurling, defeating Jim Troy's effort by about six months.
" Laois ? You can't drink pints of Guinness and talk sh*te in a pub, and play football the next day"

stevetharlear

Quote from: Bud Wiser on January 02, 2009, 05:12:29 PM
In Cork you can strike anytime with a hurley.  You can strike downwards, sideways or strike for any reason at all.  Cork are currenlty the holders of the longest strike in hurling, defeating Jim Troy's effort by about six months.

Jesus you're Gas, you should be on a stage! ;)

Longest point I've ever seen scored was Diarmuid O Sullivan V's Limerick in 2001.  Hit from inside his own 21. Don't think he meant it though.

nrico2006

I take it that was the point where the Rock took a challenge when off balance, yet your man was the one who was scattered before the ball was drove over the bar?  If so, my favourite score ever.
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Tatler Jack

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QuoteLongest point I've ever seen scored was Diarmuid O Sullivan V's Limerick in 2001

Take it you were never at a County Board meeting or convention. Thats the place for long points :P

The point Reillers is making on another thread is another contendor for the longest point though it has not quite got over the bar yet!!!

stevetharlear

Quote from: Tatler Jack on January 12, 2009, 11:01:23 PM
QuoteLongest point I've ever seen scored was Diarmuid O Sullivan V's Limerick in 2001

Take it you were never at a County Board meeting or convention. Thats the place for long points :P

The point Reillers is making on another thread is another contendor for the longest point though it has not quite got over the bar yet!!!

Lol, agreed, although OM seems to have some extra height on his point attempt so it could be close enough.

ccosgrave

Quote from: Nuabaí on January 01, 2009, 04:14:13 AM
Is there a rule against challenging for the ball while it's on an opponent's stick? I saw a player carrying the ball on his stick as I know he's required to do according to the rules. He was being followed closely and I thought, all the opponent has to do is to tap the ball carrier's stick with his own stick and the ball will fall to the ground.

It's illegal to strike an opposing player's hurl with your own, so you can't win the ball like that. The main ways to win the ball when a person is soloing (that's what it's called when players carry the ball on the hurl while running) is to either knock the ball off the hurl (must hit the ball first before hitting the hurl), or to shoulder the player so that he loses balance and can't keep the sliothar on the hurl.

take er canny lad

aye well now, in fairness to ur man above, they make valid points like, although i wouldnt trust them as far as i could throw them

Bud Wiser

Enda Rowland scored a point for Abbeyleix from a puck-out in the Senior championship game in O'Moore Park last night.
I'd say he was going for a goal but couldn't keep it down.  Listed in official results (E Rowland 0-2 , 1 free, 1 puck-out)
" Laois ? You can't drink pints of Guinness and talk sh*te in a pub, and play football the next day"

Mossy Bruce

Quote from: Bud Wiser on August 04, 2019, 11:23:57 AM
Enda Rowland scored a point for Abbeyleix from a puck-out in the Senior championship game in O'Moore Park last night.
I'd say he was going for a goal but couldn't keep it down.  Listed in official results (E Rowland 0-2 , 1 free, 1 puck-out)
And here's the video:
https://www.laoistoday.ie/2019/08/04/a-watch-laois-goalkeeper-enda-rowland-scores-a-point-from-a-puckout-in-club-hurling-championship/

Amazing.
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