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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #345 on: November 14, 2017, 07:05:50 PM »
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

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The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #346 on: November 14, 2017, 07:29:48 PM »
I can remember in 2008 3 derry teams where in all finals.

On another note anyone know what games will be played before the Ulster Championship matches?
U-17s are played in april and the seniors in May

who were the Intermediate / Junior finalists that year RnB?

__________________________________________________________________________


The draw for next year's Ulster minor football championship (U17) took place tonight.

Under the new fixture calander the championship gets undeway in April and is separate from the senior championship.

In the preliminary round Derry play Monaghan on Saturday 21 April, with the winners progressing to a quarter-final against Cavan.

The quarter-finals on the A side of the draw are Antrim v Fermanagh and Donegal v Tyrone, with the winners of both games meeting in the semi-final.

On the other side of the draw Down play Armagh with the winner of that tie meeting Derry/Monaghan/Cavan in the last four.

The quarter-finals are fixed for Saturday 28 April.

All games must be concluded on the day with no replays. If two periods of extra time can't separate teams on the day, a free taking competition will decide the winner.


Ballinderry Greenlough and Lissan

Marty Carey captained Greenlough in the final. He is playing for John Mitchels in Liverpool now.

Where did it all go wrong Marty?

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #347 on: November 15, 2017, 10:53:11 AM »
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

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Re: Derry Club Football & Hurling
« Reply #348 on: November 15, 2017, 11:25:29 AM »
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.

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« Reply #349 on: November 15, 2017, 12:11:42 PM »
What is the story with the age structure for club underage football? is it going to under 20s, 17s and 15s or going to stay the same? sounds like a bloody headache!

I believe it is the same as normal in club scene eg. u12, u14, u16, minors(u18). Only being county minors is changed to u17 and county u21s is changed to u20's.
I don't think it's been decided yet afaik. I think there is to be a meeting about it. Would probably make sense to change to the U11/13/15/17/20 age groups because of the minor age change. Don't see how/why it would be a headache?

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« Reply #350 on: November 15, 2017, 12:51:11 PM »
Well if u have U 17 county and club stays at U 16 and U 18 there would probably be a knock on effect for both these grades getting games played which would not have been such a big impact previously.  I predict that grades at club will change to U17 and U15 etc this incoming year.  Decision is to be made in next couple of weeks afaik. Ps I think this change at national level is a load of bollocks.

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« Reply #351 on: November 15, 2017, 01:03:28 PM »
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.

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« Reply #352 on: November 15, 2017, 01:31:47 PM »
If there is a change this year it is would be a travesty. It would be typical of the culture within the Gaa currently whereby the club player is treated like shite. The season past when every one knew it was the last season of inter count u18 level, an u17 com po was ran to ensure those players at u17 would not be forgotten about. But here in Derrty are you suggesting that next seasons u18 players should be dispensed with, without any consideration of a ‘gap’ year for them. For some that would no minor this season as they weren’t good enough to get on this years u18 team, and if this crap is pushed through, no football this incoming season as they will be playing- sorry training at u20 level.

At county level the players were treated with respect, but the Club player can go f**k them selves.
Not sure who this is aimed at but no, as per above, nothing has been agreed as of yet. A 'gap' year could be an option or a bigger emphasis on U20. Also, if the age groups stay as is the clubs are more likely to be adversely affected as it could mean cancellations of u16 and u18 games if the county U17s are successful. It probably makes most sense to align the age groups with county for down the line.

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« Reply #353 on: November 15, 2017, 02:49:15 PM »
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

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« Reply #354 on: November 15, 2017, 03:01:30 PM »
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

All to do with leaving cert down south. By lowering the age to u17 this means that the majority of players will no longer be trying to play county minor the same year as their leaving cert exams. Its a Player welfare thing that I'm sure most of the genius posters on here will complain about anyway.

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« Reply #355 on: November 15, 2017, 04:15:47 PM »
I think this consultation process is being run at Ulster level.

I wasn't suggesting what should be done just giving my (worthless) opinion as to what will happen. If this alignment doesnt happen this year it will definitely happen next year. And it will of course mean that players in their last year of U18 minor will miss out on their last year of underage, either this year or next, which is an inevitable consequence of this change. As I said earlier its a load of crap imo.

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« Reply #356 on: November 15, 2017, 08:40:02 PM »
No matter what way it goes there is going to be serious implications! Under 20s is going to be the biggest problem to solve. This is the age that there is the biggest drop of rate! At the minute I can't see a lot of teams being able to field on a consistent basis.  It will certainly take a few years to bed into place.

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« Reply #357 on: November 15, 2017, 11:10:53 PM »
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know

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« Reply #358 on: November 15, 2017, 11:31:31 PM »
Personally feel it was an absolute load of bollix ever changing county football from u18 and u21 to u17 and u20's

Agree Toby

.... U17's probably geared to suit the school system on the southern side of what will be the 'new hard border' dividing this island

.... the U20's  I just don't know

Was the MacRory Cup not geared at under 18 and a half once to suit the school system in Ulster? Does U17 not benefit the whole island? No division.

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« Reply #359 on: November 16, 2017, 09:32:13 AM »
I don't see that U17 suits the 26 any more than it suits the OSC, it means people doing their final year exams in both jurisdictions aren't eligible to play.