The Many Faces of US Politics...

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/sep/24/americas-era-of-climate-mass-migration-is-here

[omaghjoe]

Does it do in anyone else's head the way they pronounce Cavanagh?

cauv-aw-naw

[whitey]

Does it do in anyone else's head the way they pronounce Cavanagh?

cauv-aw-naw

He has an Americanized version.....Kavanaugh.....notnthat it would stop them mispronouncing it even if it was spelled the right way

[sid waddell]

Haha...."the others in the house" are saying no such party even took place, not that they were there and didn't see anything

Why has Kavanaugh been discussing a defence that admits something happened - but with somebody else?

An entirely innocent person, like.

That should be disqualifying in and of itself, from the entire judiciary, not just this appointment.

As should his perjury.

[heganboy]

Same old shite.

Everything is viewed through one lens.

It's all going to be about who can get the votes out in the mid term and whether Trump's 2 years of making the rich richer and the poor poorer is considered a win by the conservatives and Christians who want to preserve their sterilized version of 1950s Americana via the supreme Court and short sighted immigration policies which harm the overall economy but preserve the Republican majority. The targeted "bring out the vote" in key areas machinery is exceptional and they play the same consistent message to their base over and over, to the point that it goes unquestioned.

On the other side you have a rudderless reaction culture with no agenda, no leader and no plan to unite against the navel gazing of the right and the abdication from global prominence and global leadership of the last 60 years. They are too busy in fighting and positioning for a 2024 run that to take any stance that could make a difference. It doesn't matter how many protest marches for the theme of the moment the Democrats run, they haven't set out a plan or an agenda other than"well, we're not Trump"


Used to be the office of President was the leader of the Free world, sadly now it's the leader of the electoral college system. And I don't see an elephant nor a donkey anywhere that is likely to change that any time soon.

[seafoid]

Same old shite.

Everything is viewed through one lens.

It's all going to be about who can get the votes out in the mid term and whether Trump's 2 years of making the rich richer and the poor poorer is considered a win by the conservatives and Christians who want to preserve their sterilized version of 1950s Americana via the supreme Court and short sighted immigration policies which harm the overall economy but preserve the Republican majority. The targeted "bring out the vote" in key areas machinery is exceptional and they play the same consistent message to their base over and over, to the point that it goes unquestioned.

On the other side you have a rudderless reaction culture with no agenda, no leader and no plan to unite against the navel gazing of the right and the abdication from global prominence and global leadership of the last 60 years. They are too busy in fighting and positioning for a 2024 run that to take any stance that could make a difference. It doesn't matter how many protest marches for the theme of the moment the Democrats run, they haven't set out a plan or an agenda other than"well, we're not Trump"


Used to be the office of President was the leader of the Free world, sadly now it's the leader of the electoral college system. And I don't see an elephant nor a donkey anywhere that is likely to change that any time soon.

Things have to get a lot worse for the Dems to start thinking about serving their voters. They are still working for the donor class. And the stock market is high. But there will be another crash.

[seafoid]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/sep/24/brett-kavanaugh-third-woman-expected-to-make-accusations-of-sexual-misconduct

[seafoid]

Avenatti's twitter account is interesting
And the US is hopelessly polarised.


Michael Avenatti

@MichaelAvenatti
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6h

Looking forward to being on
@CuomoPrimeTime
and
@maddow
tonight to discuss Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and my clients.

Ms M@TheCoalitionOfTheDecent
@MsM2U1
·
5h

...with a nice glass of Pinot Grigio

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Jennifer Louden
@j_louden
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5h

Me with a nice glass of Pinot Noir!


Michael Avenatti

@MichaelAvenatti
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14h

.
@GOPChairwoman
: Any time you would like to compare my track record over the last 7 mos. with yours or Trump's relating to the credibility of info and stmts, I would be happy to. Not a single thing I have said in countless interviews over the last 7 mos. has proven to be false.
Quote Tweet
Ronna McDaniel

@GOPChairwoman
How do we know this is a baseless smear against Judge Kavanaugh?
1) No witnesses.
2) No corroborating evidence.
3) Michael Avenatti is involved.

Ruth Barbetta
@Ruthbarbetta
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15h

Replying to
@GOPChairwoman
and
@AdvertisingLaw
Notice how they block out Kavanaugh defence and set him up to be the big bad wolf because he stood for America and couldn't be bought off. Their evil knows no bounds... #MAGA
@realDonaldTrump

[seafoid]

Michael Avenatti

@MichaelAvenatti
·
Sep 24

Brett Kavanaugh must also be asked about this entry in his yearbook: "FFFFFFFourth of July." We believe that this stands for: Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them. As well as the term "Devil's Triangle." Perhaps Sen. Grassley can ask him. #Basta

[seafoid]

Kavanaugh is an extremist anyway. If Roe v Wade goes the GOP will lose a lot of female voters on top of all the blue collar folks it is shafting.

When he was forst nominated I heard several people say hed have a hard time getting through

There were plenty of other people he could have nominated

Roe is going down no matter who they put forward.

And there will be a backlash to THAT in years to come.

So whoever Trump puts forward will be unacceptable......thats the type of attitude that has us in this place to begin with

Wasn't airing an attitude, just making a prediction! Do you see it differently?

Roe is overturned, half the states ban abortion, throw in all the over stuff that will follow Kavanaugh's appointment - environmental protections, worker protections, consumer protections, racial/minority issues etc.

Suddenly the left becomes awakened to what the Supreme Court (and lower courts) means in US society and why it has been such a major plank of the conservative movement for the past 40 years.

Edit: I would add, on the no one being acceptable bit, that Trump is putting up judges chosen by the Federalist Society. There are no moderates, in terms of judicial and political philosophy, on that list. Obama nominated Garland, way more moderate than Sotameyer, for example,  in an attempt to meet the GOP at least a little bit of the way given their preemptive announcement that there would be no consideration given to him anyway. Trump would never countenance that, nor would he be allowed to. And that's fine. His and his administration's and party's choice. But you can't expect the Dems and left to just roll over and not react to what these nominees mean, especially once their rulings start to take effect.

Republicans stole a seat from Obama and now the Democrats are attempting to steal a seat from Trump.  The whole thing is a fvckin debacle

I love the way Republicans painted Garland as an extremist and yet, his and Kavanaughs voting records are almost identical

I love the way Democrats paint Kavanaugh as an extremist and yet, his and Garlands voting records are almost identical

All Democrats I know absolutely believe all of the allegations against Kavanaugh.

All Republicans I know absolutely believe the allegations against Kavanaugh are a dirty trick

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

Society is just starting to reckon with the fall out from women finally saying "f**k you" to powerful sc**bag behaviour.  Plenty more careers are going to stall or end. Kavanaugh will probably be saved, career-wise, by politics, but I'd imagine this will take a serious personal toll.

In the judicial records, I'd say a lot of that is down to the uncontroversial, mundane nature of much of the caseload.

It may be a tough call for the GOP. If Kavanaugh goes through after a shitstorm it will cost them serious numbers of votes

[sid waddell]

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

This isn't (at least currently) a criminal trial.

The key question is whether any of the allegations are credible or not.

The very distinct impression one gets it that they are.

[seafoid]

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

This isn't (at least currently) a criminal trial.

The key question is whether any of the allegations are credible or not.

The very distinct impression one gets it that they are.

The wider picture is very interesting. Trump is a signed up misogynist and a liability among female voters. The GOP may have to sacrifice Kavanaugh in the interest of the midterms.

[sid waddell]

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

This isn't (at least currently) a criminal trial.

The key question is whether any of the allegations are credible or not.

The very distinct impression one gets it that they are.

The wider picture is very interesting. Trump is a signed up misogynist and a liability among female voters. The GOP may have to sacrifice Kavanaugh in the interest of the midterms.

Support for Kavanaw among Republican-supporting women went up after Christime Blasey Ford's allegation went public.

There is no more masochistic bunch than Republican-supporting women.

[whitey]

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

This isn't (at least currently) a criminal trial.

The key question is whether any of the allegations are credible or not.

The very distinct impression one gets it that they are.

The wider picture is very interesting. Trump is a signed up misogynist and a liability among female voters. The GOP may have to sacrifice Kavanaugh in the interest of the midterms.

Support for Kavanaw among Republican-supporting women went up after Christime Blasey Ford's allegation went public.

There is no more masochistic bunch than Republican-supporting women.

Or maybe they've live their whole lives here and have seen the Democratic smear machine in action before

[sid waddell]

Personally, I would lean towards the allegations being true, in that I cannot for the life of me imagine why someone would put themselves through the trauma of being such as accuser if they weren't true.

But... that is not the same as proof.

This isn't (at least currently) a criminal trial.

The key question is whether any of the allegations are credible or not.

The very distinct impression one gets it that they are.

The wider picture is very interesting. Trump is a signed up misogynist and a liability among female voters. The GOP may have to sacrifice Kavanaugh in the interest of the midterms.

Support for Kavanaw among Republican-supporting women went up after Christime Blasey Ford's allegation went public.

There is no more masochistic bunch than Republican-supporting women.

Or maybe they've live their whole lives here and have seen the Democratic smear machine in action before

Or maybe they have a neanderthal attitude to sexual assault from being force fed a diet of right-wing misogynism their whole lives, and employ psychological defence and justification techniques to "dig in" when confronted with things that would blow their whole worldview apart if they didn't employ these psychological techniques.

Denial, in other words.

It's a very, very common thing for supporters of right-wing nut jobbery.

In fact it's the sort of thing on which the popularity of the Republican party and right-wing extremism in general depends.