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#1
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 06:59:40 PM
QuoteThe manager comes off as a bit of a bully.
On the contrary, he came across as very measured and professional in a long interview with C Parkinson. This guy is training a senior inter-county Mayo outfit with aspirations of winning an All Ireland - he's not training the Ballymagash u-12s. Its his job to give it to players straight, for the benefit of the players themselves and the team as a whole. If certain players can't handle criticism because they haven't had it in the past that's an issue for them.
Isn't it interesting that it's the most senior players, grown women in their 30s, who seem to have issues with Leahy? People will say that young girls have walked away too, but it's pretty obvious that as Carnacon players they had no other option. The remaining girls on the panel, who are younger in the main, have absolutely no issue with management and have stated that categorically.
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
QuoteWas there nobody in the co board who could put a bit of smacht on the situation before it blew up? It sounds completely polarised now.

Been developing for a long time. Certain parties were allowed excessive influence under previous management and when Leahy tried to bring them to heel (quite rightly) they reacted just like indulged children and threw the toys out of the pram. Was only a matter of time.

Interesting article from C Parkinson, pointing out how it would have been deeply insulting to the manager for her to suggest he bring in somebody to sort out defensive issues. Leahy would have rightly interpreted this as a senior player trying to call the shots and he was determined to stamp that out. https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/colm-parkinson-mayo-177662?utm_content=bufferfe711&utm_medium=Social+organic&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=Buffer
#3
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 03:03:31 PM
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At this stage Mayo county board should make no further statement, have no further dealings with these rebels and let them feck off with themselves. There is nothing of substance clearly in any of this. These girls are obviously used to calling the shots which Leahy was unwilling to let happen. Let Mayo proceed with girls who are committed. No one should be bigger than the team.

Spot on. Mayo LGFA and Leahy himself should just leave it lie now. Don't fuel it any further and it will die. The players who left are outside the fence looking in now. Mayo and Leahy will carry on preparing for 2019.
And leave the Mayo team without players from possible the best club in the country ?
there is going to have to be proper negotiation when tempers cool.
Cora and some of the others are pushing on but a lotof this carancon Crew are you and it would be a shame if this blighted their careers m
Maybe they will just sit out leahys term

The players left voluntarily. If they want to come back then they will contact the management team. Until then or in the absence of that happening the best thing Leahy and Mayo LGFA can do is just carry on. Mayo won't be winning the 2019 all-Ireland with or without those players.

Mayo LGFA can't let this lie though. They took the decision to throw carnacon out of the mayo championship and were heavily backed by the club's. All of this needs resolving too

Just to clarify, the motion to throw Carnacon out of the Championship came from a club delegate, not from the County Board.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 02:05:24 PM
QuoteThat's what sticks out to me, why the Liaison officer apparently was not told of these issues

Reason why they never went to Liaison officer was there were no substantive issues. They have tried and dismally failed to conjure up some spurious issues in the meantime but the truth is pretty evident to anyone who has paid any attention to the issue.
#5
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 12:32:22 PM
QuoteMichael McHale and Denise McDonagh are from which Mayo club does anyone know?

Michael McHale is Fiona McHale's father (Carnacon). Not sure about Denise McDonagh
#6
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 11:07:39 AM
Part of the problem is that the Carnacon gang are now conflating what has happened since they abandoned ship with their initial reasons for going. Any alleged abuse on social media for example is completely irrelevant because it happened after they acted and can not be cited as a reason for leaving. I don't doubt that it's tough on the players who walked but they have brought that on themselves and management can hardly be blamed. Did Sarah Tierney break down in tears because of what was happening at training? No, she broke down because of the pressure that has built up since they jumped and the terrible mess they are now in. But Joe Public only see the tears and reckon she must have been terribly hard done by.
#7
GAA Discussion / Re: Row in Mayo LGFA
September 18, 2018, 08:59:24 AM
More vague nonsense from Carnacon rebels. They claim that Peter Leahy's comments that the issue was all about 'feeling's was insulting and go on to say that players 'felt' isolated, intimidated and helpless.
Again they are throwing around unfounded assertions. They describe the mediation process as 'unfair' but give no explanation. This was a process, which they agreed to, conducted by a professional mediator. This is another individual being undermined by the group with absolutely nothing to back up their allegations.
Fiona McHale specifically mentioned that one issue was a player - a senior inter-county footballer - being upset at being told she was lazy by the manager. Seriously???
We are to believe that this issue categorically has nothing to do with team selection and yet it all kicked off when two players (in their mid-thirties) were told they would not be starting.
The players statement gives the impression that there were ongoing issues. Surely, surely these would have been brought to the attention of the liason officer way way back?? Obviously any self respecting liason officer can't betray confidences but at this stage she should be allowed to confirm if any such complaints were brought to her. If not then this story is dead surely???
OTB have embarrassed themselves on this one. A child could see that the players haven't a leg to stand on. All was fine in the Mayo camp until certain parties returned after the League. The remaining players have emphatically insisted in the strongest possible terms, that there were no welfare issues.

The only correct course of action here was for the players to hold up their hands and apologise. they have acted disgracefully and their abject failure, even at this stage, to establish any credible, just reasons, for abandoning the panel mid-Championship, shows that they have no case. Unfortunately their leaders are not the type to back down and so the mess carries on. Media really needs to get their teeth into this and start asking some hard questions, but I'm not holding my breath.