The ulster rugby trial

Started by caprea, February 01, 2018, 11:45:56 PM

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Milltown Row2

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 12, 2018, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 04:52:37 PM
If those instagram photos are anything to go by she'd able for a rugby player.

You're like a gossiping aul woman

Unless you've been on the moon, someone else has already said on this thread about photos. He's about 17 stone and supports Liverpool. I'll leave that with you
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Gabriel_Hurl

You'll have to point me out the post where someone who is "17 stone and supports Liverpool" said anything about her photos


Milltown Row2

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on February 12, 2018, 08:45:19 PM
You'll have to point me out the post where someone who is "17 stone and supports Liverpool" said anything about her photos

Look for it yourself, it's already been posted.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Gabriel_Hurl

Nah - you're ok - you can do it for me - the only person I see referencing photos of the accuser is yourself.

Funny how you were guessing her weight as well  ::) ::) ::) ::)

seafoid

@FrankGreaney

6m

Blane McIlroy's barrister puts his client's version of events to the woman. He says he was fully dressed when he first came into the room and that she was naked on the bed with Paddy Jackson. He said there was no sign of Stuart Olding in the room

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"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

Tony Baloney

Her testimony seems a lot less convincing today.

gallsman

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
Her testimony seems a lot less convincing today.

How? Her story hasn't changed at all.

Asal Mor

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Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
Her testimony seems a lot less convincing today.
Harvey sounds a much better barrister than the previous ones who were questioning the girl and has really gone on the attack.

You'd have to say there's something seriously wrong with a system that allows an alleged victim to be publicly grilled and accused for 7 days and counting. For all the furore and wailing about the Evans case (a special case because the girl had no recollection) by various women's rights groups, this case is a much more horrific example and deterrent to others to come forward.

red hander

Quote from: Asal Mor on February 12, 2018, 10:48:48 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
Her testimony seems a lot less convincing today.
Harvey sounds a much better barrister than the previous ones who were questioning the girl and has really gone on the attack.

You'd have to say there's something seriously wrong with a system that allows an alleged victim to be publicly grilled and accused for 7 days and counting. For all the furore and wailing about the Evans case (a special case because the girl had no recollection) by various women's rights groups, this case is a much more horrific example and deterrent to others to come forward.

This will depend on the verdict, IMO. It's high stakes for both sides so both sides are gonna go all out

sid waddell

Quote from: gallsman on February 12, 2018, 10:45:03 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 09:53:20 PM
Her testimony seems a lot less convincing today.

How? Her story hasn't changed at all.
Precisely. And the prosecution are playing a dangerous game here. By alleging that the complainant was "intoxicated" they are seriously undermining their clients' claims to have have had a reasonable belief that there was consent.

Today, was the prosecution QC alleging that the words "at least use a condom" amounts to consent?

Because it doesn't.

Syferus

Is it any wonder most instances of rape go unreported? This is a broken system.

Milltown Row2

why do we have a judicial system? Complete waste of money! All things should be settled by the Board! Fireside lawyers by the dozen!

Can we put a poll up? At least that will give us an idea and close the case! Save that girl from 3 weeks of torment
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Syferus

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Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
why do we have a judicial system? Complete waste of money! All things should be settled by the Board! Fireside lawyers by the dozen!

Can we put a poll up? At least that will give us an idea and close the case! Save that girl from 3 weeks of torment

At what point of people telling you you're acting scummy will you get the message?

If you think a system that allows a woman's underwear be paraded around a court room amid a two week long grilling with countless baseless insinuations about her sexual desires and motivations is a good judicial system you are in a single world wrong.

Surely to fûck there should be a time limit on cross examination, because what is currently happening is simply an attempt akin to filibustering in politics where the aim is to wear down the victim and get a reaction that makes her look bad. That is not justice.

What the defence have attempted is not a defence of their client but a smear campaign against the victim. I hope to God the jurors are smart enough to see through the noise.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2018, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
why do we have a judicial system? Complete waste of money! All things should be settled by the Board! Fireside lawyers by the dozen!

Can we put a poll up? At least that will give us an idea and close the case! Save that girl from 3 weeks of torment

At what point of people telling you you're acting scummy will you get the message?

If you think a system that allows a woman's underwear be paraded around a court room asks a two week long grilling with countless baseless insinuations about her sexual desires and motivations is a good judicial system you are in a single world wrong.

What the defence have attempted is not a defence of their client but a smear campaign against the victim. I hope to God the jurors are smart enough to see through the noise.
LOL what a clown. I honestly don't think you live in the real world. It's called a defence for a reason - do you expect them to hold out their hands and ask for the cuffs to be applied?!

Syferus

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 12, 2018, 11:57:21 PM
Quote from: Syferus on February 12, 2018, 11:54:43 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 12, 2018, 11:42:25 PM
why do we have a judicial system? Complete waste of money! All things should be settled by the Board! Fireside lawyers by the dozen!

Can we put a poll up? At least that will give us an idea and close the case! Save that girl from 3 weeks of torment

At what point of people telling you you're acting scummy will you get the message?

If you think a system that allows a woman's underwear be paraded around a court room asks a two week long grilling with countless baseless insinuations about her sexual desires and motivations is a good judicial system you are in a single world wrong.

What the defence have attempted is not a defence of their client but a smear campaign against the victim. I hope to God the jurors are smart enough to see through the noise.
LOL what a clown. I honestly don't think you live in the real world. It's called a defence for a reason - do you expect them to hold out their hands and ask for the cuffs to be applied?!

A defence where all there is insinuations and attempts to feed into the worst side of humans (highlighted in this thread alone, nevermind in court) to assume the woman was 'up for it' is not justice or a defence in any shape or form. Once the woman says no it becomes rape, no matter what did or didn't happen before. It is that simple.

Anyone who isn't looking at this trying to jump through hoops looking for reasons to get the defendants off can see this is a brutal, broken system.