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Bord na Mona man

Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.

seafoid

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.

Minder

Quote from: trailer on March 16, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.

There weren't too many complaints at the time, shopping at Harrods I think was the line
"When it's too tough for them, it's just right for us"

trailer

Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 16, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.

There weren't too many complaints at the time, shopping at Harrods I think was the line

Well perhaps. But I think it has been proved at lots of clubs that if you enter the market and purchase lots of players in one or two windows, the players can't be integrated with any success. 2-3 players in any window is plenty. Strengthen positions rather than buy for the sake of it. Jose guilty at times too.

magpie seanie

Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 05:40:11 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 15, 2018, 04:14:54 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

You do realise that Mourinho's 2016/17 side scored an amazing 54 goals in 38 games and finished one place lower in the table? And that was with Leicester disintegrating from the previous season.
Yeah and 58 goals already this season and on target to break 70. You can't simply claim that Jose is unilaterally ploughing the club into the ground.

There are problems, but there have been improvements also.

Strange choice of words as I'm pretty sure no one said that. What he is ploughing into the ground is the traditions and history of the club through his teams negativity and his own conduct which is not acceptable in any walk of life.

The man should never have been allowed to get the job. It was a disgrace then, it's a disgrace now and it will continue to be so. That was almost unwatchable the other night against a bad team. And it wasn't a one off or anything like it.

magpie seanie

Quote from: trailer on March 16, 2018, 09:36:21 AM
Quote from: Minder on March 16, 2018, 09:30:48 AM
Quote from: trailer on March 16, 2018, 09:28:41 AM
Quote from: seafoid on March 15, 2018, 08:58:09 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 07:54:31 PM
Quote from: stiffler on March 15, 2018, 06:46:10 PM
Quote from: Bord na Mona man on March 15, 2018, 01:17:38 PM
Guardiola had a much easier job to do.

He inherited a team that in 15/16 had scored 71 league goals compared to Van Gaal's 49. Yes, 49 goals in 38 games.
Since then he has spent close to £280 million on keepers and defenders to plug the leaks at the back.

Cutting lose players with septic attitudes like Nasri and Yaya Toure was also low hanging fruit for Pep.

Yet both teams finished on 66 points in 2015/16.
Yes, but City had easier problems to fix. Around February that season they were right up with Leicester but then their players packed it in. As was typical of the Mancini and Pellegrini era where there was often questionable commitment from certain players.

It's nice to be able to spend 300 million to sort out a keeper and defence when you have Ageuro, Silva and De Bruyne doing their job at the other end.

Mourinho took over a team with Wayne Rooney and Memphis Depay leading the attack. Big difference.
The really big difference is between the owners.
Man City's qataris take a long view. they waited for years to get Guardiola.
The Glazers are more interested in how many shirts they sell in Asia.
A lot of Man Utd purchases during the van Gaal reign were last minute.
Man City is more zen

Certainly around the LVG era when Utd just seemed to sign anything and anyone who was available. And a lot of them turned out to be very poor quality. DiMaria, Falcao, Darmian, Depay, Scherderlin, Schweinsteiger. Couple of 100 million spunked on that alone.

There weren't too many complaints at the time, shopping at Harrods I think was the line

Well perhaps. But I think it has been proved at lots of clubs that if you enter the market and purchase lots of players in one or two windows, the players can't be integrated with any success. 2-3 players in any window is plenty. Strengthen positions rather than buy for the sake of it. Jose guilty at times too.

Van Gaal's signings mostly failed because of Van Gaal. Mourinho's signings are mostly failing because of Mourinho. A better success rate this season against mid and lower table teams at home is all that has improved. Anone who thinks United are going to win a league or a CL with this manager is sadly deluded.

Geoff Tipps

I see Jose is having a Rafa facts episode!!

Captain Obvious

Ed Woodward did the transfer business and how many of the last number of signings were the managers choices or the choice of business man to sell jerseys?


Milltown Row2

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

magpie seanie

Quote from: Geoff Tipps on March 16, 2018, 03:49:26 PM
I see Jose is having a Rafa facts episode!!

Another absolute disgrace. How anyone who call themselves a United supporter can accept this bullshit is beyond me. MOURINHO OUT.

AZOffaly

I saw a good line in one of those comments on the video. "I think Mourinho hates United as much as I do". 😀

Cunny Funt

Sanchez,Rashford,DeGea,Young and Fellaini all drop to the bench for tonights FA cup quarter final.  No start for Pogba again.

Cunny Funt

Straight forward Man United win but not a performance that warmed up the spectators in the crowd. Spurs with their season in Wembley look the most likely winners of the FA cup this year.