JP McManus - Christmas comes early

[trileacman]

I expect you could count on one hand the number of mega-wealthy individuals whose careers didn't involve some combination of tax evasion, bribery, corruption, cruelty to employees, and peddling of products or services that have brought unhappiness to some people.

It goes with the territory.

But I've always found it odd and disappointing that Ireland's mega rich have seemingly no spirit of philanthropy, whereas their forefathers and cousins who left for America seem determined to leave this world with their name etched on bridges, libraries, scholarships and stadia.

Hopefully JP sets a trend in motion here. And even if he doesn't, 3.2m is not only a welcome boost to the clubs, but a wonderful recognition that we are all one association.

For me that stems from the narcissism of the Americans compared with the more unassuming nature of the Irish.

[BennyHarp]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

[Syferus]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

These attempts to pretend you can't have an opinion on tax dodging just because he gave a few Euros to the GAA are a crock of shít.

[Therealdonald]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

These attempts to pretend you can't have an opinion on tax dodging just because he gave a few Euros to the GAA are a crock of shít.

It's not about that. He's not breaking any laws. In same position we would all do the same and base ourselves outside of the country to save money. Don't pretend that we're all whiter than white

[Rossfan]

No we wouldn't.
Some of us would follow Michael O'Leary's example and stay at home full time in our own Country with no pretend residences overseas.
Some of us also are not overawed/arse lick people who have made loads of money.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/comment-generous-gaa-gesture-from-jp-mcmanus-comes-with-a-caveat-37352530.html

[BennyHarp]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

These attempts to pretend you can't have an opinion on tax dodging just because he gave a few Euros to the GAA are a crock of shít.

But people have come out of the woodwork to sling the tax dodging accusation at him after this donation. The board wasn't full of anti JP posts three or four days ago. I'm just asking the question, as a point of principle are you going to lobby your club not to take the money?

[Syferus]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

These attempts to pretend you can't have an opinion on tax dodging just because he gave a few Euros to the GAA are a crock of shít.

But people have come out of the woodwork to sling the tax dodging accusation at him after this donation. The board wasn't dull of anti JP posts three or four days ago. I'm just asking the question, as a point of principle are you going to lobby your club not to take the money?

This was a terrible argument the first time you posed the 'question' too.

[BennyHarp]

JP McManus' tax issue is not new news. So to those people using the news of the donation to the GAA clubs as an opportunity to vent about his tax status, would you be happier if he didn't give this money to the GAA and will you be lobbying your club not to accept it as a point of principle?

These attempts to pretend you can't have an opinion on tax dodging just because he gave a few Euros to the GAA are a crock of shít.

But people have come out of the woodwork to sling the tax dodging accusation at him after this donation. The board wasn't dull of anti JP posts three or four days ago. I'm just asking the question, as a point of principle are you going to lobby your club not to take the money?

This was a terrible argument the first time you posed the 'question' too.

Are you going to lobby your club not to accept the money? What a great opportunity for the GAA grassroots to stand up and take a principled position against tax dodging billionaires. Surely self styled principled people like yourself should be leading this charge by showing that his money is not welcome?

[rrhf]

Must not be involved in the running of a club. Couple of grand of footballs and jerseys makes a big difference.  This type of philanthropy is all too rare from the big earners towards the clubs and is to be welcomed. There wasn't too much critique when it was going into Limerick alone.

[Milltown Row2]

It's obvious that Syferus is not involved with a club, nor played Gaelic games so would have absolutely no idea of the worth of a couple of grand going into a club, his reaction and that of others is like saying Kinahan Cartel has donated the money !

[bennydorano]

It's just the social media Contratranism mindset.

[Hound]

No we wouldn't.
Some of us would follow Michael O'Leary's example and stay at home full time in our own Country with no pretend residences overseas.
Some of us also are not overawed/arse lick people who have made loads of money.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/comment-generous-gaa-gesture-from-jp-mcmanus-comes-with-a-caveat-37352530.html

Not sure you can directly compare O'Leary and McManus like that. O'Leary is a director of an Irish company, so no matter what salary/benefits he gets from that company it has to be subject to income tax in Ireland, even if he spent 183+ days abroad.

Although he might be able to reduce his capital gains tax on sales of shares if he moves abroad

[seafoid]

This is an example of philanthropy that is very welcome to clubs. But the bigger question is why anyone needs a billion euros. Adare used to have people who captured most of the cash-flows in the past. So did most parishes. They were called landlords. I don't think any club is named after them.

[westbound]

No we wouldn't.
Some of us would follow Michael O'Leary's example and stay at home full time in our own Country with no pretend residences overseas.
Some of us also are not overawed/arse lick people who have made loads of money.

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/comment-generous-gaa-gesture-from-jp-mcmanus-comes-with-a-caveat-37352530.html

Do you have an issue with people choosing to claim tax relief on health expenses? Or should we all just decide to pay the tax and not claim the tax relief we are entitled to?

JP mcmanus chooses to spend less than 183 days living in Ireland in a year and pays less tax as a result.

Whilst the amounts of money involved are different, the principle is the same.

Also, I think your reference to 'pretend residences' is unfair. If you know that JP McManus (or anyone else) is illegally evading tax laws I suggest you report them to Revenue.

[five points]

This is an example of philanthropy that is very welcome to clubs. But the bigger question is why anyone needs a billion euros. Adare used to have people who captured most of the cash-flows in the past. So did most parishes. They were called landlords. I don't think any club is named after them.

Struggling to detect a point here. JP McManus hasn't amassed his fortune by going round door-to-door ripping off people, or exploiting the people of Adare or anywhere else.