Sinn Fein? They have gone away, you know.

Started by Trevor Hill, January 18, 2010, 12:28:52 AM

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Rossfan

That was abolished here many years ago as the Courts found it made votes traceable.
Meanwhile 6 Co Political Parties being reacquainted with the real World....
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Sportacus

Quote from: Applesisapples on February 13, 2024, 10:32:42 AMRates are set by individual councils. But that is only part of your rates. bill. the other is made up of the regional rate which was frozen for a couple of years. The big issue with rates. is the 70% discount for industrial businesses and 100% for farms. This narrows the rates base meaning we all pay more. this is not the case across the water. The biggest issue with council rates is how they are spent and it is here that the problem arises. Any efficiencies driven by a prudent council CEO will undoubtedly result in an outcry from, we the public, council workers and others affected. by the change. Councillors will be lobbied by the people who vote for them and as a result are reluctant to rationalise and so the rates increase. The outcry lasts a month and then people move on.
That's it in a nutshell. Farmers and manufacturers are holy grails that they won't touch, and you can't cheer on the Unions and then not expect to have to pay for it later. Finding efficiency in how services are delivered is never in the equation, just spend spend spend. 

Armagh18

Quote from: Sportacus on February 13, 2024, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 13, 2024, 10:32:42 AMRates are set by individual councils. But that is only part of your rates. bill. the other is made up of the regional rate which was frozen for a couple of years. The big issue with rates. is the 70% discount for industrial businesses and 100% for farms. This narrows the rates base meaning we all pay more. this is not the case across the water. The biggest issue with council rates is how they are spent and it is here that the problem arises. Any efficiencies driven by a prudent council CEO will undoubtedly result in an outcry from, we the public, council workers and others affected. by the change. Councillors will be lobbied by the people who vote for them and as a result are reluctant to rationalise and so the rates increase. The outcry lasts a month and then people move on.
That's it in a nutshell. Farmers and manufacturers are holy grails that they won't touch, and you can't cheer on the Unions and then not expect to have to pay for it later. Finding efficiency in how services are delivered is never in the equation, just spend spend spend. 
Food is dear enough without squeezing the farmers. The amount of money wasted on daft things in services is daft and leaves the actual important stuff like frontline healthcare staff and road maintenance underfunded. 

marty34

I think there should be a suggestion box for how the government could cut costs and save money.

Obviously there will be some sensible and practical suggestions while there could be some crazy ideas.

My one would have Michael O'Leary in charge of the Civil Service.  ;D

Any other suggestions?

Mikhail Prokhorov

Quote from: Rossfan on February 13, 2024, 02:45:56 PMThat was abolished here many years ago as the Courts found it made votes traceable.
Meanwhile 6 Co Political Parties being reacquainted with the real World....

Yep they refuse to let go of their free lunch  :(

not only that, they want more, the usual shambles

RedHand88

#9590
Everyone showed blind support for council workers strike a few years ago.

Where did they think the money would come for the payrise?

LC

Quote from: marty34 on February 13, 2024, 06:36:29 PMI think there should be a suggestion box for how the government could cut costs and save money.

Obviously there will be some sensible and practical suggestions while there could be some crazy ideas.

My one would have Michael O'Leary in charge of the Civil Service.  ;D

Any other suggestions?

Bring Sean Quinn out of retirement.

Rossfan

Get Sinn Féin into Government so that everything will be free....🙄
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

skeog

Free TV License good vote catcher down south any chance something similar here?

armaghniac

Quote from: skeog on February 13, 2024, 08:57:07 PMFree TV License good vote catcher down south any chance something similar here?


A lot of people who vote SF do not bother with TV licences, especially in the 6 counties.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

RedHand88

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68282329

"Its unfair we have to provide a plan to raise 113m ourselves in order for the British to write off the 550m we owe."

Tony Baloney

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 13, 2024, 11:05:34 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68282329

"Its unfair we have to provide a plan to raise 113m ourselves in order for the British to write off the 550m we owe."
They are pathetic. Gimme gimme gimme.

LC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68285797

Top Civil Servant in DoF to appear before a 'scrutiny committee' of MLAs.

Something not right here, the latter and the rest of their cohorts have been sitting on their backside doing sweet FA for two years and now they are bringing your man in no doubt to drag him over the coals telling him how to do his job.

TB not far wrong re gimme, gimme, gimme.

When (not if) there is a UI wait to you see what was the RoI economy take a hit when it has to take the cheque book out to prop up this place. 

Saffron_sam20

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 13, 2024, 11:05:34 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68282329

"Its unfair we have to provide a plan to raise 113m ourselves in order for the British to write off the 550m we owe."

What is her background in finance?

trailer

Quote from: Armagh18 on February 13, 2024, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Sportacus on February 13, 2024, 05:36:39 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on February 13, 2024, 10:32:42 AMRates are set by individual councils. But that is only part of your rates. bill. the other is made up of the regional rate which was frozen for a couple of years. The big issue with rates. is the 70% discount for industrial businesses and 100% for farms. This narrows the rates base meaning we all pay more. this is not the case across the water. The biggest issue with council rates is how they are spent and it is here that the problem arises. Any efficiencies driven by a prudent council CEO will undoubtedly result in an outcry from, we the public, council workers and others affected. by the change. Councillors will be lobbied by the people who vote for them and as a result are reluctant to rationalise and so the rates increase. The outcry lasts a month and then people move on.
That's it in a nutshell. Farmers and manufacturers are holy grails that they won't touch, and you can't cheer on the Unions and then not expect to have to pay for it later. Finding efficiency in how services are delivered is never in the equation, just spend spend spend. 
Food is dear enough without squeezing the farmers. The amount of money wasted on daft things in services is daft and leaves the actual important stuff like frontline healthcare staff and road maintenance underfunded. 

Quote from: RedHand88 on February 13, 2024, 11:05:34 PMhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-68282329

"Its unfair we have to provide a plan to raise 113m ourselves in order for the British to write off the 550m we owe."

Why do they speak out of both sides of their mouths? They literally voted to raise rates across a host of SF controlled councils.
SF need to be honest with the people.