Brexit.

[yellowcard]

"Arlene Foster, the DUP leader, has welcomed the result of tonight's vote. In a statment she said:

By rejecting the withdrawal agreement, parliament has acted in the best interests of the entire United Kingdom.

The House of Commons has sent an unmistakable message to the prime minister and the European Union that this deal is rejected.

Mrs May will now be able to demonstrate to the Brussels' negotiators that changes are required if any deal is to command the support of parliament ...

Reassurances whether in the form of letters or warm words, will not be enough. The prime minister must now go back to the European Union and seek fundamental change to the withdrawal agreement."


You tell 'em Arlene. The EU is no match for your lot of match-hardened punters.

Dear God, the arrogance is unbelievable.

[heganboy]

the text of the referendum was :
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

now that they know the terms of the withdrawal the referendum question for a second ballot must surely be


Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or exit the EU under the awful terms negotiated by the Government in 2018 who don't have a leg to stand on and will not only bankrupt the country but lose hundred of thousands of jobs, reduce your wages and lose Northern Ireland back to the Republic from whom we should never have taken it?

[sid waddell]

May hasn't been inept.

She has never, never has a hand to play here. Her country wish to leave. What interest would the EU have in smoothing this over, and handing out sweeteners?

What a second referendum would allow the UK to do is decide whether it's worth continuing with the process, now we are all better informed.

She has been woefully inept since she became Prime Minister - and I don't say that because of the deal, but because she displayed weakness with her faux hubristic pronouncements of the strength of Britian's negotiating position. She pandered to the crackpots at every opportunity. She set down unrealistic red lines that fatally undermined the negotiations. She encouraged the belief in cakeism at every opportunity.

Is it any wonder the Brexiteers are so unhappy? May pandered to their delusions all along. Those delusions should have been knocked on the head as soon as she became PM.

[mouview]

May hasn't been inept.

She has never, never has a hand to play here. Her country wish to leave. What interest would the EU have in smoothing this over, and handing out sweeteners?

What a second referendum would allow the UK to do is decide whether it's worth continuing with the process, now we are all better informed.

May has been completely useless, utterly inept and totally incompetent. Called a GE she didn't need to, which got her into this mess in the first place. Invoked Article 50 without thinking through the consequences of it. Tried to kowtow to the hard Brexiteers/ERG and suit everyone instead of telling them to get stuffed. Made a fool of herself running around European capitals trying to get some form of concessions which weren't ever going to be forthcoming. Announced tonight she intended to reach across the house and seek consensus on what would get agreement, 2 years too late. She is one of the most hopeless, clueless politicians I've ever seen and that's saying something.

How come Eileen's doing the News on 9 tonight? Sharon throw another hissy?

[Main Street]

if Sinn Fein had taken their seats..she would have only lost by 223 votes!!

Nevertheless Sinn Fein should have held an emergency Ard Fheis to end the policy of abstention at westminister  for a meaningless voting intervention, irretrievably splitting the party, yet another schism over abstention. just how many splits on that issue since the 1900s?

[gallsman]

the text of the referendum was :
Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

now that they know the terms of the withdrawal the referendum question for a second ballot must surely be


Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or exit the EU under the awful terms negotiated by the Government in 2018 who don't have a leg to stand on and will not only bankrupt the country but lose hundred of thousands of jobs, reduce your wages and lose Northern Ireland back to the Republic from whom we should never have taken it?

Farage lied through his teeth earlier on the BBC and claimed the leave leaders were clear that they were voting to leave the single market and the customs union. Alastair Campbell was in the middle of pulling him up on the lie when they got interrupted to go back for the result announcement

[thewobbler]

What I'd like to know is this.

If she was appointed Tory leader / PM under the premise that she would commit to delivering the people's will of Brexit, then what is it she should have done differently?

Try to leave personal impressions out of it. If you've got nothing to negotiate with, you either take your beating, or you buy enough time until you get something to negotiate with (or at the very least, you're given something just to go away).

[omaghjoe]

Flabbergasted at the scale of the defeat. How she can stay on after that is beyond me.

Can any1 tell me how it is that with a hard brexit the eu are going to brought to their knees and come groveling while on the other hand the uk are going to off making trillions from free trade agreements.

[imtommygunn]

What I'd like to know is this.

If she was appointed Tory leader / PM under the premise that she would commit to delivering the people's will of Brexit, then what is it she should have done differently?

Try to leave personal impressions out of it. If you've got nothing to negotiate with, you either take your beating, or you buy enough time until you get something to negotiate with (or at the very least, you're given something just to go away).

I don't like the woman but she was stuffed before she started. How can she win with this mess.

Farage shouldn't be allowed near our tvs. Absolute cretin who robbed money from the eu when it suited him.

[sid waddell]

May is terrible. David Cameron was worse. There's a special place in the dunces corner of British politics specially reserved for him, forever.

To hold a referendum, a device inherently unsuited to the British parliamentary system, in fact not just unsuited but inherently hostile to it, in which one choice was defined and the other choice was talking unicorns, was the most irresponsible act, outside of going to war, in modern British political history, perhaps of all time.

[dec]

What I'd like to know is this.

If she was appointed Tory leader / PM under the premise that she would commit to delivering the people's will of Brexit, then what is it she should have done differently?

Try to leave personal impressions out of it. If you've got nothing to negotiate with, you either take your beating, or you buy enough time until you get something to negotiate with (or at the very least, you're given something just to go away).

I don't like the woman but she was stuffed before she started. How can she win with this mess.

Farage shouldn't be allowed near our tvs. Absolute cretin who robbed money from the eu when it suited him.

But clearly too stupid to realise that she was stuffed.

Or so arrogant that she believed that she could magically unstuff herself.

[magpie seanie]

Suppose May wins the no confidence vote and turns around and puts deferring Article 50 pending the result of a 2nd referendum to the House of Commons? She'd win the vote and the British people could vote again with a clear idea of what they're voting for - a no deal Brexit.

[omaghjoe]

if Sinn Fein had taken their seats..she would have only lost by 223 votes!!

Nevertheless Sinn Fein should have held an emergency Ard Fheis to end the policy of abstention at westminister  for a meaningless voting intervention, irretrievably splitting the party, yet another schism over abstention. just how many splits on that issue since the 1900s?

😂😂😂
Split sinn Fein? Fairly low chance of that me thinks no matter what ye do

[BallyroanAbu]

Could the DUP in the greatest act of suicide by looking for no backstop actually initiate a United Ireland process.  Would be funny

[weareros]

What I'd like to know is this.

If she was appointed Tory leader / PM under the premise that she would commit to delivering the people's will of Brexit, then what is it she should have done differently?

Try to leave personal impressions out of it. If you've got nothing to negotiate with, you either take your beating, or you buy enough time until you get something to negotiate with (or at the very least, you're given something just to go away).

I don't like the woman but she was stuffed before she started. How can she win with this mess.

Farage shouldn't be allowed near our tvs. Absolute cretin who robbed money from the eu when it suited him.

But clearly too stupid to realise that she was stuffed.

Or so arrogant that she believed that she could magically unstuff herself.

She was never a Brexiteer. If it never happens, history may judge her well, as her next card could be:

1) A referendum that will overturn Brexit
2) Cancelling Brexit by Act of Parliament
3) Revoking Article 50 Indefinitely