Anyone see the video? Mad stuff. She was lucky to walk away alive from that pounding. The perps are being charged with GBH but I'm wondering why it's not attempted murder. There must be a high bar to proving that charge.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 25, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Anyone see the video? Mad stuff. She was lucky to walk away alive from that pounding. The perps are being charged with GBH but I'm wondering why it's not attempted murder. There must be a high bar to proving that charge.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5587.msg1801551#msg1801551
bcb-maybe this is the wrong thread to ask,but how big a loss,to Cullyhanna and Armagh football,will todays events in Newry prove to be when you consider at 26/27 This lad might never play football again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43898318
Quote from: MK on April 25, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
bcb-maybe this is the wrong thread to ask,but how big a loss,to Cullyhanna and Armagh football,will todays events in Newry prove to be when you consider at 26/27 This lad might never play football again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43898318
No loss whatsoever. Has played very little football in the last number of years. He is a bad child as is his co-accused.
The BBC jumping over hedges to get "GAA star" in the headline. He's 26 and played minor football NINE years ago!! ::)
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: MK on April 25, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
bcb-maybe this is the wrong thread to ask,but how big a loss,to Cullyhanna and Armagh football,will todays events in Newry prove to be when you consider at 26/27 This lad might never play football again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43898318
No loss whatsoever. Has played very little football in the last number of years. He is a bad child as is his co-accused.
Yes apparently his co-accused had previous with taxis in the area-I thought Tasker played in a county final recently?
Quote from: MK on April 25, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
bcb-maybe this is the wrong thread to ask,but how big a loss,to Cullyhanna and Armagh football,will todays events in Newry prove to be when you consider at 26/27 This lad might never play football again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43898318
What a terrible angle to come at this story from. Fûck football.
Quote from: MK on April 25, 2018, 08:08:40 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2018, 07:54:11 PM
Quote from: MK on April 25, 2018, 07:47:27 PM
bcb-maybe this is the wrong thread to ask,but how big a loss,to Cullyhanna and Armagh football,will todays events in Newry prove to be when you consider at 26/27 This lad might never play football again
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-43898318
No loss whatsoever. Has played very little football in the last number of years. He is a bad child as is his co-accused.
Yes apparently his co-accused had previous with taxis in the area-I thought Tasker played in a county final recently?
He was a sub on the squad and played some games. Trust me from talking to a few locals over recent times there ain't any tears being shed!!! As for the other clown.... he'll be very popilular in the showers in the clink!!!
Quote from: under the bar on April 25, 2018, 07:58:14 PM
The BBC jumping over hedges to get "GAA star" in the headline. He's 26 and played minor football NINE years ago!! ::)
Can't lay that at the door of the BBC. Irish News and other publications had him pinned as a "GAA star" from day 1.
Said he was going to rape the driver!
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 25, 2018, 07:40:07 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 25, 2018, 07:15:37 PM
Anyone see the video? Mad stuff. She was lucky to walk away alive from that pounding. The perps are being charged with GBH but I'm wondering why it's not attempted murder. There must be a high bar to proving that charge.
http://gaaboard.com/board/index.php?topic=5587.msg1801551#msg1801551
Ah. Forgot about the other thread. Sorry.
According to BBC/ITV it was revealed there were no fractures or serious injuries so that charge will have to be amended to either attempted GBH or more likely actual bodily harm.
Facebook tells me this evening that the victim isn't a 'great' sort either and sympathy seems to have dried up for her.. Doesn't make what happened to her any less distasteful and I hope they get time for it.
Quote from: Boycey on April 25, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
Facebook tells me this evening that the victim isn't a 'great' sort either and sympathy seems to have dried up for her.. Doesn't make what happened to her any less distasteful and I hope they get time for it.
So despite her being beaten half to death and without knowing her, the girls character now gets dragged thru the mud on a public forum cos of something you read on FB?
Quote from: Over the Bar on April 26, 2018, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Boycey on April 25, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
Facebook tells me this evening that the victim isn't a 'great' sort either and sympathy seems to have dried up for her.. Doesn't make what happened to her any less distasteful and I hope they get time for it.
So despite her being beaten half to death her name then without knowing her her character gets dragged thru the mud on a public forum cos of something you read on FB?
Did you sleep through the Ulster rape thread? Some here can't want to tell us all the dirt they've found about the woman in any case.
nothing surprises me anymore what a mob or group of youngsters will get up to
and all captured on the on phones too
heard a story about two fifteen year olds on a bus on the way home from a youth disco recently
Quote from: Over the Bar on April 26, 2018, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Boycey on April 25, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
Facebook tells me this evening that the victim isn't a 'great' sort either and sympathy seems to have dried up for her.. Doesn't make what happened to her any less distasteful and I hope they get time for it.
So despite her being beaten half to death and without knowing her, the girls character now gets dragged thru the mud on a public forum cos of something you read on FB?
Well she did have a Police tag on her ankle which would indicate she was no saint
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Yeah you hear the usual pitchfork "sc**bag" sentiment but it isn't that straightforward, some of these youngsters had no chance
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on April 26, 2018, 07:59:28 AM
Quote from: Over the Bar on April 26, 2018, 12:44:18 AM
Quote from: Boycey on April 25, 2018, 10:21:36 PM
Facebook tells me this evening that the victim isn't a 'great' sort either and sympathy seems to have dried up for her.. Doesn't make what happened to her any less distasteful and I hope they get time for it.
So despite her being beaten half to death and without knowing her, the girls character now gets dragged thru the mud on a public forum cos of something you read on FB?
Well she did have a Police tag on her ankle which would indicate she was no saint
It could also indicate she was a shoplifter, which doesn't mean she in some way deserved life changing facial injuries as being suggested.
Off course the kid didnt deserve the beating. Full stop.
However she obviously isnt the angel she was painted in social media when it first happened. Stories of giving out beatings, continually in trouble with the law, running with the crowd that actually gave her the beating have somewhat meant the sympathy has significantly dipped.
All money collected that was to be given to the girl is now being given back. The person who set up the page cant or wont say why she is returning the money.
Most of the parties involved in this case have been in and out of care for years now which gives some perspective on it.
I'm not making any comment on the wee girl rather reporting that the even more public jury of Facebook has decided has decided that she's a Cnut too and deserved what she got.
A bit like I said on the other thread I despair of people..
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Your legal insights are really interesting, BC. Keep them coming.
I think family povert'y over generations is also a trauma thing. Kids are brutalised from an early age in some famI lies.
If you look at how the brains of murderers develop it usually takes years and dysfunction is often a great breeding ground.
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Your legal insights are really interesting, BC. Keep them coming.
I think family povert'y over generations is also a trauma thing. Kids are brutalised from an early age in some famI lies.
If you look at how the brains of murderers develop it usually takes years and dysfunction is often a great breeding ground.
Or it could be they just happened to have lost the plot and murdered someone, a lot of the time we look for reasons as to why, there are thousands of people that have been brought up in dysfunctional familes and do pretty well, and there are plenty brought up in good homes that turn out to be right dickheads and turn to crime!
Yes the percentage of ones from below the poverty line getting into crime is a lot higher, but plenty in 'normal' homes and rich ones are dirtbags too
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Your legal insights are really interesting, BC. Keep them coming.
I think family povert'y over generations is also a trauma thing. Kids are brutalised from an early age in some famI lies.
If you look at how the brains of murderers develop it usually takes years and dysfunction is often a great breeding ground.
Or it could be they just happened to have lost the plot and murdered someone, a lot of the time we look for reasons as to why, there are thousands of people that have been brought up in dysfunctional familes and do pretty well, and there are plenty brought up in good homes that turn out to be right d**kheads and turn to crime!
Yes the percentage of ones from below the poverty line getting into crime is a lot higher, but plenty in 'normal' homes and rich ones are dirtbags too
Of course that is true but that's the exception in regards to crime rather than the rule in my experience. Generally too the ones from 'better' backgrounds go through a stage of getting into trouble and eventually wise up unless they do something really stupid.
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 26, 2018, 10:21:24 AM
Quote from: seafoid on April 26, 2018, 10:11:03 AM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on April 26, 2018, 08:31:53 AM
These types of assaults have been happening for time immemorial. Social media hasn't created this issue but it has magnified it. I recall vividly being in Antrim court representing a pregnant girl and her brother over a very similar assault of the father of the baby and another girl because they were caught together. This was 16 years ago. The background to these types of cases can be very similar. As children they have been exposed to abuse both physical and sexual from a very early age. Normally single parent homes, living below the poverty level, no or limited education, victims of a care system that doesn't care who's parents were the same. Inter generational poverty that is very difficult to break
Your legal insights are really interesting, BC. Keep them coming.
I think family povert'y over generations is also a trauma thing. Kids are brutalised from an early age in some famI lies.
If you look at how the brains of murderers develop it usually takes years and dysfunction is often a great breeding ground.
Or it could be they just happened to have lost the plot and murdered someone, a lot of the time we look for reasons as to why, there are thousands of people that have been brought up in dysfunctional familes and do pretty well, and there are plenty brought up in good homes that turn out to be right d**kheads and turn to crime!
Yes the percentage of ones from below the poverty line getting into crime is a lot higher, but plenty in 'normal' homes and rich ones are dirtbags too
Obviously. Trauma can be in any family. But perfecting a sc**bag takes years of work. It doesn't happen overnightmn
There's some arseholes on Facebook. From people sharing chain letters, to people who setup Paedophile catching stings, to people who put their entire lives on it, to Gofund me pricks. It's got now that if you're on Facebook you're a penis.
Breaking the cycle of social deprivation is very difficult. Care & prison is not the answer. You need to give these people a purpose, but they also need to help themselves as well.
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Quote from: Boycey on April 26, 2018, 09:05:47 AM
I'm not making any comment on the wee girl rather reporting that the even more public jury of Facebook has decided has decided that she's a Cnut too and deserved what she got.
A bit like I said on the other thread I despair of people..
I'm fairly sure that retaliation will be on the menu too.
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
I saw some p***k at that in Belfast City Centre a few months ago, got his mate to video him giving a homeless man a sausage roll.
Quote from: Minder on April 27, 2018, 09:11:45 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
I saw some p***k at that in Belfast City Centre a few months ago, got his mate to video him giving a homeless man a sausage roll.
There are some serious wankers about!
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
So you thought you'd go one better and save the story so you could tell everyone about how you didn't tell everyone about your good deed? :P :P
But seriously the term used for this is Virtue Signaling its about letting everyone know how great a person you are, its generally people that don't really care about a cause or issue any deeper than its ability to inflate their own ego and others perception of them. Social Media and smart phones are the blame I think, its so obvious when you see it, it'd makes me cringe like f**k
Quote from: MoChara on April 27, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
So you thought you'd go one better and save the story so you could tell everyone about how you didn't tell everyone about your good deed? :P :P
But seriously the term used for this is Virtue Signaling its about letting everyone know how great a person you are, its generally people that don't really care about a cause or issue any deeper than its ability to inflate their own ego and others perception of them. Social Media and smart phones are the blame I think, its so obvious when you see it, it'd makes me cringe like f**k
I still call it self gratifying bullshit
Quote from: Taylor on April 27, 2018, 09:21:00 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 27, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
So you thought you'd go one better and save the story so you could tell everyone about how you didn't tell everyone about your good deed? :P :P
But seriously the term used for this is Virtue Signaling its about letting everyone know how great a person you are, its generally people that don't really care about a cause or issue any deeper than its ability to inflate their own ego and others perception of them. Social Media and smart phones are the blame I think, its so obvious when you see it, it'd makes me cringe like f**k
I still call it self gratifying bullshit
It most certainly is
Quote from: MoChara on April 27, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
So you thought you'd go one better and save the story so you could tell everyone about how you didn't tell everyone about your good deed? :P :P
But seriously the term used for this is Virtue Signaling its about letting everyone know how great a person you are, its generally people that don't really care about a cause or issue any deeper than its ability to inflate their own ego and others perception of them. Social Media and smart phones are the blame I think, its so obvious when you see it, it'd makes me cringe like f**k
Aye everyone! About 30 people! :o
Would have been more people seeing me give him something where he sat! ;D I dont know anyone who uses this site, how popular would this discussion board be? I'd imagie not that much
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 10:28:51 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 27, 2018, 09:19:30 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 09:09:18 AM
Quote from: screenexile on April 26, 2018, 11:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eamonnca1 on April 26, 2018, 06:02:24 PM
Quote from: Taylor on April 26, 2018, 09:16:49 AM
Quote from: Minder on April 26, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
Maybe it's just me being ultra cynical and a misery guts but why is it now the done thing when someone gets a booting or some crisis happens the first thing that happens is setting up a Go Fund Me page??
I remember after the Manchester attack last year they were falling over themselves to set them up for some of the "homeless heroes" (one ended up getting jailed for theft), now what sense is there in just handing someone a wad of money, especially someone with obvious problems. Money isn't always the answer.
Gives some people a real kick to put up on social media that they have donated money. How many would donate if no one else knew they were donating?
Self gratifying bullshit
When you see something like that played back in front of you it presses the same emotional buttons as if you were seeing it first hand. Anyone that was beaten up in school reacts very strongly to seeing this sort of thing. Same as Michael Buerke's BBC news report of the Ethiopian famine, we all remember the wave of "we've got to do something-ism."
When we're physically remote from something we still feel the urge to help, but since we're not there on the ground, contributing money is the best we can do. I don't think it's the worst aspect of human nature and I couldn't describe it as "self gratifying bullshit." I just think we have to be a bit more careful about how we try to help, and the answer isn't always obvious. To this day it's controversial as to whether or not Live Aid's money made mattters better or worse for Ethiopia.
When someone sets up a go-fund-me page it usually makes a lot of money, although I'd be interested in knowing what the checks and balances are for making sure the money goes to the right people or does any good. I'm always sceptical about go fund me pages because I don't know if it's some scammer trying to make a quick buck.
Remember the Ulster Says No campaign and the big rally at city hall? Apparently some enterprising fenians put some "Ulster Says No" posters on buckets, walked around collecting money from the crowd, and pocketed the lot of it!
Aye that's ok though if you're stupid enough to donate to shit like that then they deserve to lose their money!!!
I won a free burger and drink on the Monopoly game at McDonalds the other week, gave it to a beggar on the street, raging i didnt video it and highlight it on my FB page or instagram it or tweeted it, could have went viral (i think they are the terms) no instead I've shared it on the board, possibly the smallest media outlet out there!
Though to be fair I did get a run of good luck, so, just maybe giving something can bring a bitta luck your way!
So you thought you'd go one better and save the story so you could tell everyone about how you didn't tell everyone about your good deed? :P :P
But seriously the term used for this is Virtue Signaling its about letting everyone know how great a person you are, its generally people that don't really care about a cause or issue any deeper than its ability to inflate their own ego and others perception of them. Social Media and smart phones are the blame I think, its so obvious when you see it, it'd makes me cringe like f**k
Aye everyone! About 30 people! :o
Would have been more people seeing me give him something where he sat! ;D I dont know anyone who uses this site, how popular would this discussion board be? I'd imagie not that much
I'm only winding, you brought it up in a relevant discussion, if you'd started a thread about it it would have looked different.
I know, I was writing it and said to myself, Hmm you are that dickhead, ya know what i mean.... though in fairness whether i was due a bit of luck or not or if you believe in that crap I did notice a very good up turn in business !! So I've been to McDees every day and have yet to win a burger :P
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
I know, I was writing it and said to myself, Hmm you are that d**khead, ya know what i mean.... though in fairness whether i was due a bit of luck or not or if you believe in that crap I did notice a very good up turn in business !! So I've been to McDees every day and have yet to win a burger :P
Next time you're down at our place refereeing and everyone is giving out about you, I'll retell your good deed to give you a few brownie points........
Till the next decision goes against us ;)
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
I know, I was writing it and said to myself, Hmm you are that d**khead, ya know what i mean.... though in fairness whether i was due a bit of luck or not or if you believe in that crap I did notice a very good up turn in business !! So I've been to McDees every day and have yet to win a burger :P
Was it a Big Mac or just an ordinary burger?
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
I know, I was writing it and said to myself, Hmm you are that d**khead, ya know what i mean.... though in fairness whether i was due a bit of luck or not or if you believe in that crap I did notice a very good up turn in business !! So I've been to McDees every day and have yet to win a burger :P
Was it a Big Mac or just an ordinary burger?
Ordinary chicken! Had have been a chicken legend I'd have kept it
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 02:36:21 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 27, 2018, 01:17:16 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2018, 12:00:43 PM
I know, I was writing it and said to myself, Hmm you are that d**khead, ya know what i mean.... though in fairness whether i was due a bit of luck or not or if you believe in that crap I did notice a very good up turn in business !! So I've been to McDees every day and have yet to win a burger :P
Was it a Big Mac or just an ordinary burger?
Ordinary chicken! Had have been a chicken legend I'd have kept it
This is why I have asked the question as I knew if it was something decent you'd have eaten it. Cancel his MBE for services to charity.
I see two of the girls allegedly involved in this have been granted bail.